Nancy Grace

But thinking about the videos of trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real estate bro's closet, it reminds me of a certain raid that went down on Sean Combs' mansion.

In that case as well, Bill Daley, former FBI agent,

Trophies, quote, trophies were obtained.

During that raid, Bill Daley, video equipment was reportedly discovered, along with over a thousand bottles of lubricant, baby oil.

trophies have been the bane of many criminals' existence.

Why trophies?

And so for all these things, it's sometimes- Why are you putting perfume on the pig daily?

That's not like you.

The souvenirs, the trophies, quote, get them excited.

You mean give them an erection?

You know, I'm very curious, Bill Daley.

I think this goes beyond your or my kin.

colloquial for understanding.

Joining me, psychologist Karen Stark.

Everything Bill Daley said is correct, but what is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason that people like Dennis Rader, or in this case, the real estate bros, also called the rape bros, but those are just accusations.

Why keep all these videos?

are the claims true?

Should I believe the real estate bros or should I believe all of the women now coming forward?

Some of them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.

What's very hard for many people to understand, including myself, is how the real estate bros