Naomi McPherson

It's just that we're going to be tough on you because we know that you can...

I don't think you have a choice.

I think you just got to.

So it's like any long term relationship where it's like where we just have to continually see ourselves as a team and like know we're going to get through it, but like not be in denial about those tension points.

It's a lot.

Yeah, totally.

This Muda record has probably more halftime moments than anything we've ever done.

Yeah, the drums kind of switch up completely from a sort of Lin drum world to more kind of, yeah, processed like 909 universe.

The synths kind of warp and shift and glitch and the vocals kind of get sucked into this other, I don't know.

World, thank you.

Yeah, we really were gunning for the halftime bridge kind of from the beginning.

We were just like, this is a good idea and we should pursue it.

I think we're just not comfortable not having some kind of little curveball moments here and there in songs.

Not that they're world-shifting transitions or anything like that, but I do think the bridge is this more like,

anxious introspective kind of like yeah looking at the clock like as the seconds are ticking and it you know it felt right to not have that just be like blasting through with the same beat like it didn't serve the story of the song there's some there's just a little like something about

wanting to pull the listener into this other kind of narrative reality that was just like an instinct thing that we did in the studio.

Yeah, and there's also like crazy harpsichord stuff.

Everyone needs to re-listen again, but there is harpsichord.

It's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, certainly.