Narrator / Host (mostly Dominic Sandbrook)

And actually, after the break, when we continue the Rolling Stones' story, this will get an awful lot darker and we will be looking a lot more at the lives destroyed by the excitement of the 60s in the second half. So join us in a few minutes and we will be painting it black.

He was not. And just before I get on to Brian Jones, Tom, I will once again congratulate you on a superb, a really superb impression. I enjoyed that very much. So, yes, Brian Jones is without question the founder of the Rolling Stones. If you listen to the first episode, you'll remember he places the advert. He puts the band together and at first he's effectively the manager.

He was not. And just before I get on to Brian Jones, Tom, I will once again congratulate you on a superb, a really superb impression. I enjoyed that very much. So, yes, Brian Jones is without question the founder of the Rolling Stones. If you listen to the first episode, you'll remember he places the advert. He puts the band together and at first he's effectively the manager.

He was not. And just before I get on to Brian Jones, Tom, I will once again congratulate you on a superb, a really superb impression. I enjoyed that very much. So, yes, Brian Jones is without question the founder of the Rolling Stones. If you listen to the first episode, you'll remember he places the advert. He puts the band together and at first he's effectively the manager.

But from quite an early stage, the others have realised he is fragile, he's flaky, he's very demanding, he's hard to get on with. He crucially refuses to write his own songs because he just wants to basically do blues songs. So as early as 1963, he's been marginalised by Mick and Keith and Andrew Lou Goldham, their first manager. And over time, this has got much worse.

But from quite an early stage, the others have realised he is fragile, he's flaky, he's very demanding, he's hard to get on with. He crucially refuses to write his own songs because he just wants to basically do blues songs. So as early as 1963, he's been marginalised by Mick and Keith and Andrew Lou Goldham, their first manager. And over time, this has got much worse.

But from quite an early stage, the others have realised he is fragile, he's flaky, he's very demanding, he's hard to get on with. He crucially refuses to write his own songs because he just wants to basically do blues songs. So as early as 1963, he's been marginalised by Mick and Keith and Andrew Lou Goldham, their first manager. And over time, this has got much worse.

He has been torn between resenting Jagger and Richards and their fame and trying to suck up to them. And actually, by the time they really become internationally famous, the others have come to really dislike him. I hate to laugh because he has a very tragic fate, but they're so horrible about him in their interviews.

He has been torn between resenting Jagger and Richards and their fame and trying to suck up to them. And actually, by the time they really become internationally famous, the others have come to really dislike him. I hate to laugh because he has a very tragic fate, but they're so horrible about him in their interviews.

He has been torn between resenting Jagger and Richards and their fame and trying to suck up to them. And actually, by the time they really become internationally famous, the others have come to really dislike him. I hate to laugh because he has a very tragic fate, but they're so horrible about him in their interviews.

So Mick Jagger, normally the way their interviews work is they always say, oh, we love Brian. Brian was wonderful. Such a shame about Brian. And then in the next sentence, they will say, and I quote, He was an extremely difficult person. There was something very, very disturbed about him. He was a very paranoid personality.

So Mick Jagger, normally the way their interviews work is they always say, oh, we love Brian. Brian was wonderful. Such a shame about Brian. And then in the next sentence, they will say, and I quote, He was an extremely difficult person. There was something very, very disturbed about him. He was a very paranoid personality.

So Mick Jagger, normally the way their interviews work is they always say, oh, we love Brian. Brian was wonderful. Such a shame about Brian. And then in the next sentence, they will say, and I quote, He was an extremely difficult person. There was something very, very disturbed about him. He was a very paranoid personality.

And my favourite one is by Sir Ian Stewart, who'd been their keyboardist, a Scotsman, who was basically pushed out of the band. Guy with a massive chin. Massive chin. And then he became their kind of... Kind of roadie, isn't he? Yeah, kind of roadie and a sort of Stones whisperer who accompanied them on tour and stuff and was sort of the conscience of the band.

And my favourite one is by Sir Ian Stewart, who'd been their keyboardist, a Scotsman, who was basically pushed out of the band. Guy with a massive chin. Massive chin. And then he became their kind of... Kind of roadie, isn't he? Yeah, kind of roadie and a sort of Stones whisperer who accompanied them on tour and stuff and was sort of the conscience of the band.

And my favourite one is by Sir Ian Stewart, who'd been their keyboardist, a Scotsman, who was basically pushed out of the band. Guy with a massive chin. Massive chin. And then he became their kind of... Kind of roadie, isn't he? Yeah, kind of roadie and a sort of Stones whisperer who accompanied them on tour and stuff and was sort of the conscience of the band.

He said of Brian Jones, he was a very difficult person. Nobody wanted to be in the same car with Brian for any length of time. And then my favourite line, I think, in all history, being Welsh, he had a very obnoxious streak to him.

He said of Brian Jones, he was a very difficult person. Nobody wanted to be in the same car with Brian for any length of time. And then my favourite line, I think, in all history, being Welsh, he had a very obnoxious streak to him.

He said of Brian Jones, he was a very difficult person. Nobody wanted to be in the same car with Brian for any length of time. And then my favourite line, I think, in all history, being Welsh, he had a very obnoxious streak to him.

So, yes, I mean, it's important to emphasize this is an inter-Celtic disagreement here because this is a Scotsman. Yeah, of course. So as Brian Jones has been forced out of the band, he ended up moving into this muse cottage in Chelsea, had a string of girlfriends who he treated incredibly badly. I mean, there's always discussion about whether John Lennon treated women badly.