Narrator

At this point, Jeremy Ogden is now leading the investigation into the Cochran's.

Detective Ogden has what will be the first of many interrogations with Kelly Cochran at the Hobart police station following her husband Jason's death.

Detective Ogden starts talking with Kelly and building a relationship with her.

It's almost like the two of them were having a chess game.

Absolutely.

Detective Ogden calls Jason's friend, Walt Ammerman, and tells him he wants him to be part of this plan to catch Kelly Cochran.

What he wanted Walt to do was become an actor.

They were going to have him call Kelly from a parked car to talk about this letter.

But it's not true.

There is no letter.

This is all made up, made up for one purpose, to see what Kelly Cochran's reaction would be.

You were basically having to convince Kelly that her dead husband was sending a message from beyond the grave.

Please don't.

She says please don't mail it.

I don't know.

And right then I knew, like, he got her.

And what did that tell you?

But that wasn't your only chess mood.

You had another trick up your sleeve, which was a tree and a carving?

The tree's over there?