Narrator/Denise Chan
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So they really can't send photos and documents out. And even recruiters, when they're recruiting people, they are using platforms like Telegram so they can just easily wipe communications. We also really lucked out with someone like Charlie who would have photos and documents being shared from the inside. So, like, Max would send her videos, send her texts and photos.
So they really can't send photos and documents out. And even recruiters, when they're recruiting people, they are using platforms like Telegram so they can just easily wipe communications. We also really lucked out with someone like Charlie who would have photos and documents being shared from the inside. So, like, Max would send her videos, send her texts and photos.
And because she was on the outside, she could save them. So, yeah. Because of that, we were able to verify a lot of things through those images and through those documents.
And because she was on the outside, she could save them. So, yeah. Because of that, we were able to verify a lot of things through those images and through those documents.
No, I didn't go to any recruitment lunches, but I would have. I would have wanted to, to see how they make that pitch.
No, I didn't go to any recruitment lunches, but I would have. I would have wanted to, to see how they make that pitch.
I did end up learning about some weird groups, though. Okay, so there's like this... It's a Telegram group where all the scam bosses actually are in a group chat sharing scripts and training documents with one another as to how to scam. And I had a source who somehow was inside one of these groups and so was sending me these documents, things like how to target victims on Facebook.
I did end up learning about some weird groups, though. Okay, so there's like this... It's a Telegram group where all the scam bosses actually are in a group chat sharing scripts and training documents with one another as to how to scam. And I had a source who somehow was inside one of these groups and so was sending me these documents, things like how to target victims on Facebook.
how to use LinkedIn to develop foreign customers, how to set up a Tinder profile. And you look at these documents and they're like training docs at a startup with like screenshots. It's like, click here, then do this, say this. And then there'd be tips like how to make conversation. How do you expand on certain topics? How do you keep the conversation going so the customer knows you're interested?
how to use LinkedIn to develop foreign customers, how to set up a Tinder profile. And you look at these documents and they're like training docs at a startup with like screenshots. It's like, click here, then do this, say this. And then there'd be tips like how to make conversation. How do you expand on certain topics? How do you keep the conversation going so the customer knows you're interested?
You know, you can think of it sort of like If you are a marketing professional and you're in like a professional group with a bunch of marketers and you're just like knowledge sharing, that's exactly what these groups were. Oh, my God.
You know, you can think of it sort of like If you are a marketing professional and you're in like a professional group with a bunch of marketers and you're just like knowledge sharing, that's exactly what these groups were. Oh, my God.
You know, a lot of these, the people who fall for these scams, like they're very smart individuals. And I think that happens because they're really believable on the other end. They've got a script. They've been trained to ask the right questions, say the right things to make them seem real. And they're trained to know what emotional buttons to push and what motivates...
You know, a lot of these, the people who fall for these scams, like they're very smart individuals. And I think that happens because they're really believable on the other end. They've got a script. They've been trained to ask the right questions, say the right things to make them seem real. And they're trained to know what emotional buttons to push and what motivates...
whoever's on the other line, to respond or to do what they want them to do. There was one source that I spoke with who had gotten out of the compound, and he was telling me they have a scam for everyone. So if they find out you are someone who is interested in making more money and you have a lot of money, then they'll try to lure you in with an investment scheme.
whoever's on the other line, to respond or to do what they want them to do. There was one source that I spoke with who had gotten out of the compound, and he was telling me they have a scam for everyone. So if they find out you are someone who is interested in making more money and you have a lot of money, then they'll try to lure you in with an investment scheme.
If you don't have any money, they'll try to lure you in with an opportunity to make money or create a scheme to pretend to lend you money. Or if you have money but aren't interested in investments, maybe they'll create some sort of sob story to have you give them money. Like, oh, my mom is in the hospital and I need help.
If you don't have any money, they'll try to lure you in with an opportunity to make money or create a scheme to pretend to lend you money. Or if you have money but aren't interested in investments, maybe they'll create some sort of sob story to have you give them money. Like, oh, my mom is in the hospital and I need help.
And they're really good at sending texts that make them seem really authentic. You know, they'll send photos of their meals and be like, have you eaten yet? This is what I just had for lunch. Or like sending voice notes that are just like just checking in. So really, when I hear about people who fall for it, I understand because they feel like real people on the other end.
And they're really good at sending texts that make them seem really authentic. You know, they'll send photos of their meals and be like, have you eaten yet? This is what I just had for lunch. Or like sending voice notes that are just like just checking in. So really, when I hear about people who fall for it, I understand because they feel like real people on the other end.