Narrator/Denise Chan
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Podcast Appearances
That was one of the reasons why Vajitra and I flew across the world to meet her in person and to sit down and speak with her extensively for hours to really build trust on both ends. And ultimately, I think of Charlie as someone painstakingly human. I see a sister who really loves her brothers and her family and would do anything for them.
That was one of the reasons why Vajitra and I flew across the world to meet her in person and to sit down and speak with her extensively for hours to really build trust on both ends. And ultimately, I think of Charlie as someone painstakingly human. I see a sister who really loves her brothers and her family and would do anything for them.
I see a woman who was a hustler, a smart individual who thought she could potentially figure a way out on her own by maybe outsmarting Dev. I think of her as someone who has made mistakes and sacrificed others for her own gain, but has also tried really hard to make up for it. You know, like everyone in the scam factory.
I see a woman who was a hustler, a smart individual who thought she could potentially figure a way out on her own by maybe outsmarting Dev. I think of her as someone who has made mistakes and sacrificed others for her own gain, but has also tried really hard to make up for it. You know, like everyone in the scam factory.
She had to make some really hard choices and she's going to have to live with the consequences of all of her choices as a result of it.
She had to make some really hard choices and she's going to have to live with the consequences of all of her choices as a result of it.
This was a question that we grappled with a lot because it's really the first choice that sort of makes everything go haywire. You know, Charlie has said she didn't go to law enforcement because she didn't think local authorities in the Philippines could actually do anything for her brother. He was trapped in this whole other country with a completely different jurisdiction.
This was a question that we grappled with a lot because it's really the first choice that sort of makes everything go haywire. You know, Charlie has said she didn't go to law enforcement because she didn't think local authorities in the Philippines could actually do anything for her brother. He was trapped in this whole other country with a completely different jurisdiction.
And so Charlie figured she could solve the problem herself. But as we all know, that wasn't the case.
And so Charlie figured she could solve the problem herself. But as we all know, that wasn't the case.
You know... Colonel Matalong has done this for a while, and he has a pretty good sense of people. He has his own sort of tips and tricks for figuring out if someone's lying or not. And I had asked Colonel many times about what made him trust Charlie.
You know... Colonel Matalong has done this for a while, and he has a pretty good sense of people. He has his own sort of tips and tricks for figuring out if someone's lying or not. And I had asked Colonel many times about what made him trust Charlie.
It seems like ultimately there was a level of mutual trust between the two of them once Charlie started handing over information and giving a full account. In actuality, Charlie really had a lot to lose if she didn't tell the truth, right? Her brothers were in there. She could be in really deep trouble with the law. And she was at the whim of Dev.
It seems like ultimately there was a level of mutual trust between the two of them once Charlie started handing over information and giving a full account. In actuality, Charlie really had a lot to lose if she didn't tell the truth, right? Her brothers were in there. She could be in really deep trouble with the law. And she was at the whim of Dev.
So I think at the point in which Charlie began trusting Colonel and telling him everything, he also did the same.
So I think at the point in which Charlie began trusting Colonel and telling him everything, he also did the same.
Yeah, it broke my heart the first time I heard it. But yeah, that's the thing. Family obligation just plays such a huge role in this story. I mean, with many of our characters, family is the reason they took the job in the first place, right? To provide for them. And then there's this additional element of... Oh, I got a great opportunity. Let me bring my brother. Let me bring my cousin.
Yeah, it broke my heart the first time I heard it. But yeah, that's the thing. Family obligation just plays such a huge role in this story. I mean, with many of our characters, family is the reason they took the job in the first place, right? To provide for them. And then there's this additional element of... Oh, I got a great opportunity. Let me bring my brother. Let me bring my cousin.
Let me bring my friend, too. So family is both a motivator in getting the workers in and then also this network to bring in even more workers. And then you add in this family obligation part of it. So, like, you know, Jane, Charlie, Jella, they get inside and they feel ashamed that they've landed themselves in this situation. They feel so guilty.
Let me bring my friend, too. So family is both a motivator in getting the workers in and then also this network to bring in even more workers. And then you add in this family obligation part of it. So, like, you know, Jane, Charlie, Jella, they get inside and they feel ashamed that they've landed themselves in this situation. They feel so guilty.