Narrator/Denise Chan

But from the time I spent interviewing Charlie for this series, she told me she was doing well. She had a new job and she was just trying to move on. So are Charlie and Colonel still working together? Yeah, both Charlie and Colonel have told me that they keep in touch. Charlie was still hearing from people inside the compound.

But from the time I spent interviewing Charlie for this series, she told me she was doing well. She had a new job and she was just trying to move on. So are Charlie and Colonel still working together? Yeah, both Charlie and Colonel have told me that they keep in touch. Charlie was still hearing from people inside the compound.

And so whenever anyone wanted to leave, she'd connect them with Colonel. So they're still working together in that aspect.

And so whenever anyone wanted to leave, she'd connect them with Colonel. So they're still working together in that aspect.

Yeah. So Charlie told me that Max and Josh are doing well. They finally did reunite. Her and Josh did make up and they're talking again. She also told me that Max and Josh's partners are expecting. So Charlie is going into auntie mode and she's very happy about the new additions to their family.

Yeah. So Charlie told me that Max and Josh are doing well. They finally did reunite. Her and Josh did make up and they're talking again. She also told me that Max and Josh's partners are expecting. So Charlie is going into auntie mode and she's very happy about the new additions to their family.

I think for almost everyone, they really are trying to move on with their lives. I think in a way there's really no choice but to move on. You have to. But at the same time, I think for someone like Yuki or Jane, even when they were telling me their story, you could hear how painful it is to recount scamming someone.

I think for almost everyone, they really are trying to move on with their lives. I think in a way there's really no choice but to move on. You have to. But at the same time, I think for someone like Yuki or Jane, even when they were telling me their story, you could hear how painful it is to recount scamming someone.

Like with Yuki, the pain in her voice when she talks about scamming that university student. It's something I'm not sure will leave them. It feels like it sticks around for a while. Even for Charlie, you know, the whole experience has really kind of traumatized her. She told me that when she was applying for new jobs, she was paranoid that she might end up scamming people.

Like with Yuki, the pain in her voice when she talks about scamming that university student. It's something I'm not sure will leave them. It feels like it sticks around for a while. Even for Charlie, you know, the whole experience has really kind of traumatized her. She told me that when she was applying for new jobs, she was paranoid that she might end up scamming people.

So I think there's also that level of paranoia, naturally, for anyone who gets out of that scam factory.

So I think there's also that level of paranoia, naturally, for anyone who gets out of that scam factory.

Yeah, I want to tell everyone this is happening, so don't fall for it. But no, really, you know, my hope in telling this story, to begin with, is just to have everyone realize how interconnected we all are. Like, it's a story that happens halfway across the world, but what happens over there has everything to do with us. us over here. So, you know, we should care.

Yeah, I want to tell everyone this is happening, so don't fall for it. But no, really, you know, my hope in telling this story, to begin with, is just to have everyone realize how interconnected we all are. Like, it's a story that happens halfway across the world, but what happens over there has everything to do with us. us over here. So, you know, we should care.

There's a direct line from the suffering there to the suffering of individuals here. We are all impacted by this very big and growing scam issue. So we all should care about this.

There's a direct line from the suffering there to the suffering of individuals here. We are all impacted by this very big and growing scam issue. So we all should care about this.

Thank you, Sarah and Zachi. The pleasure is all mine. It has been such a joy chatting with you both. Thank you all for listening to the series. If you like Scam Factory, you can binge all episodes ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.

Thank you, Sarah and Zachi. The pleasure is all mine. It has been such a joy chatting with you both. Thank you all for listening to the series. If you like Scam Factory, you can binge all episodes ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.

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