Natalie Joy
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That reminds me of 90210, the girl Erin Silver, and she went by Silver. It's cute. It's okay.
What did you enjoy more? What was harder, Special Forces or Big Brother?
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He said, hell no. He said, I'm out.
In fact, I think we would love that even more because I feel like not a lot of people know who we actually are and everyone just likes to talk about like Chippendales and
You get to episode seven and I'm like, In Vegas. I'm like, what? What's going on here?
No, it was definitely an option for me to do it by myself. But I, well, I don't know.
When we both came from completely different families and we're just completely different all around. And so that, yeah, they love that, that contrast between us. And clearly that's still a controversy.
So we actually.
And part of healing a lot of.
But it was my plan. I mean, I had had a conversation with your parents and said I would like to pay for med school.
Yes, I definitely would say that. But I do feel like I could have navigated season one better for sure. And I could have been better at communicating. And obviously you can see in season two that there is lack of communication. And I do think I was living in fear a lot of the time. But it was such a hard place to be in after season one because...
part of me felt this guilt for putting my relationship on the show and exposing that and being the one to push for that. But at the same time, I was like, wait a second, I'm not responsible for how Zach acted and his actions. So there is a lot of just guilt in me feeling like, oh, I did play a huge part in this. And then part of me was like, no, actually, I'm not responsible for this. And
Like your son is responsible for this. And I do feel like I was blamed based off of some comments that were made from like what's shown on social media. Everybody has seen it. And yeah, I know I was definitely blamed, but I definitely think that everyone has learned from this situation.
And I'm so grateful because I also feel like his family has been able to take a step back and also see like everything. Yeah.
But for me at this point, I'm kind of in a stage of like I'm doing what I want to do and I'm doing what I feel like is best for me. And like I spent my whole life like I didn't have a lot of money growing up. Like I didn't get the same opportunities that a lot of like my friends did, especially when moving to Utah during high school.
Like I went from like literally living in the Bay Area, living in the hood to living in a like privileged area and And I saw all of my friends get all these opportunities. And I felt like, oh, because I don't come from like a privileged family, like I can't get the same opportunities.
And I've been very defensive of all the opportunities I'm getting now because I'm like, you don't realize like my whole life I've been serving and giving. I was raised with foster kids. I shared my bedroom with kids my whole life. Like it's time for me to show up for me. I put my foot down because I'm like, no, I do deserve this.
And I think sometimes still feel like a lot of guilt because of like being on a reality TV show isn't easy. Exposing your life isn't easy. But at the same time, I'm like, sometimes you just feel called to something and you can't explain why. And people might have their opinions and say that's right or wrong. For me, like I've always just followed my gut and intuition and
I want to do the hard thing. It's not easy being vulnerable as a Mormon and showing what actually happens sometimes in Mormon relationships. And I feel like we're doing the hard thing, but doing the right thing by exposing what actually happens.
And hopefully people within the Mormon culture can look at our relationship and kind of reflect on theirs and say, hey, I think we kind of struggle with that too. Or maybe my husband has fed into the whole patriarchy and isn't treating me right. Or I want to be an example of that. And people aren't going to like that, unfortunately. I have lost a lot of friends and I think respect because of that.
And I don't care. I'm showing up. And I basically told him when I was in a place where I wanted to walk away from the relationship, like, I'm doing this. This is what I feel right about. And you can come along with me. You can support me in this or you can walk away. I was not opposed to divorce. I was truly doing what I felt was right.
And because of that, I feel like our relationship has never been stronger because I have found my voice. And I'm still in the process of that. I'm still young, 25. I'm young. But for me, I have learned so much. And, yeah, I think there's a lot to take from our relationship, how different we are, the dynamic of our relationship. And, yeah, I think.
Was... Just turned 20.
I was raised by my biological parents, but I was raised with foster kids. So my parents took in foster kids my whole life. Okay. From the time that I was three years old, I was sharing my bedroom. And basically, I love my parents so much. My mom was a convert. So she was raised Catholic, was converted by the Mormon missionaries, moved down to BYU, met my dad.
My dad was also raised with foster kids. My dad was raised in California. And my parents are just different members of the church. My mom still drinks coffee occasionally. drinks too. She doesn't follow all the rules. My parents have never been that way, but their focus growing up was really about being a good person, serving others and making God and Jesus the focus.
And basically when bringing in these foster kids, he wanted, my parents wanted to let these children know that, yeah, maybe your parents have forgotten you. Maybe they
aren't here for you maybe they don't even love you but guess what God does and like I want you to know that so when you leave this house like you have something to rely on if you don't feel that from maybe the next family or whatever but My parents have always been a perfect example of that. And to be honest, that kind of is still is what is keeping me still with the church.
I've had a lot of issues with the church since the show, and I've had kind of like a spiritual faith crisis. But what's kept me is that love. What's kept me is like that relationship with God, with Jesus, because I just saw how it transformed these kids' lives and it transformed my life. And I do think people get fixated on the whole, like, why do you wear garments? Why do you do this? Why?
Joseph Smith.
It's about the intention, baby. It's about being a good person. That's what it's about. But again, a lot of members do fixate on the things that aren't important. And for me, I always go back to the primary things that are important. And yeah, my mom growing up, like... we didn't have the like best relationship because of the language barrier.
So I was raised by this Hispanic mother, but then I was also raised by this in some way, traditional white Asian Mormon, man. So I was able to see so much. I was able to see, have so many different relationships with my foster siblings. And I, Like, I feel like I have really such a good perspective on the blessings of the church and the good that you can get from the church.
But I also have perspective of like what I don't want to teach my kids and what I want to leave. And that's something I'm still just figuring out day by day. But I feel like we've been able to teach each other like so much. There's so much I can take from him.
And to be honest, my family, even though they're the most Christ-like, loving, least judgmental people, they are very dysfunctional in their own way. I also was raised by parents who yelled at each other and screamed at each other. And in a lot of ways, maybe shouldn't have shown us that, but they showed me the real and the passion. And with that came also toxic things.
yeah I'm doing way better now physically I'm not the best right now because I am in the third trimester and the third trimester is rough but yeah no season two season one and season two was really hard on me and yeah like we we watched season one and
But then you've got things that I've learned from you and also your grandparents. just like hard work and community as well. And there's just so much that we have learned from each other.
But also like he's helped me find my voice because being raised with foster kids, I felt like I did get a lot of the short end of the stick growing up because my parents were so focused on like helping these kids. And I did feel in a lot of ways I was neglected. And because of that, I became somewhat of a people pleaser.
And him and his family is an example of like speaking up for yourself and vocalizing your opinions. You know, his family is a very opinionated family.
I can go down to the details. I think the biggest thing that we struggle with is communication and the way that we communicate when in the thick of it or when there is an issue. I am a withdrawer and he's a pursuer. And so I think that has been like the game changer for us, like kind of like perfecting that and how we go about conversations has been like
immediately started filming season two right after so what you see in season two is basically just like what was actually happening and um it was just a lot to navigate it's not every day that your relationship gets exposed to the whole world and yeah uh I'm like I don't even know where to start um
I said, I don't have time for this. I'm pregnant.
I was really struggling for a while and I never actually fully vocalized that. But internally, I was for sure battling because I feel like your toxic tendencies kind of came out the start of like... trying to get to med school. Because at that point, there had kind of been a shift in the dynamic of our relationship. In the beginning of our relationship, he was the provider.
I kind of was just at home chilling, not really doing anything. And I was just kind of like, whatever Zach does, summer cells, school, like I'm just tagging along. And I was like, kind of like... chill with it. But I think I've always been pretty like ambitious in like my own way. And I definitely need my own thing.
Six months ago, I was not, I was not doing okay, but through therapy and taking time for myself and focusing on my mental health, I'm in a way better place now. So.
So when I pushed him to go back to med school, kind of leave summer cells, I was kind of put in a place where like I was forced to like provide or at least I knew that like I need to find a way to provide because at that point I couldn't rely on him providing for us and I didn't want to be in debt.
And then at the same time that we had committed to that and all those changes, I found out I was pregnant with my first. And so that kind of just like put something in me that just like I need to make this happen. I need to start providing and I need to give this baby the best life. So I started my videography career. It kind of turned into what it is now, social media, now reality TV.
But I think that caused a lot of issues because as I became the provider, I kind of, and a mother, I kind of started to find my voice and I started to find my confidence. And I also started to gain somewhat control in our relationship. He was kind of the person just kind of like steering the wheel. And I kind of just came in and was like, okay, I actually think we should do it this way.
And I'm the one paying for it. No, exactly.
Yes, and he really resisted it, and it really caused a lot of issues. And in the thick of that, I got asked to be on a reality TV show.
He's like, great idea. Because I'm bringing in the dough.
Yeah. We had some leftover money, but for the most part, at that point, it felt like he was gambling my money because I was the provider at that point.
Um, yeah, it kind of, uh, I feel like starting season two, I was already dealing with a lot and I kind of just showed up just wanting to be vulnerable and sharing the truth because that's the whole reason why I started or wanted to be on reality TV in the first place was. I want to be vulnerable. I wanted to do the hard thing in sharing my story.
This is Gap.
I can do whatever the hell I want.
Yeah, but also with the gambling, that's something that we openly talk about a ton. And I do feel like being raised in the Mormon church, there is a lot of shame and guilt around a lot of
stuff and I feel like with boundaries and communication like it's become more of like a healing thing for us and it has been like a toxic like we're going back to like toxic things it's more just like hey like if we can stick to this budget if we can stick to this like we're a team like you want to spend this amount of money with like
betting on a sports game, well, I'm going to spend this amount of money on a bag. We just see it that way. Obviously, if it went too far and he wasn't being honest, we would have to set that boundary and say, this isn't working. We tried to make it work. Let's not do it. We haven't gotten to that point. It's been a very perfect way for us to bond and also not...
When you say bond, what do you mean?
Obviously, I didn't expect season one to turn out the way that it did. But I have always been that way. I've always wanted to do the scary thing. And coming back was the scary thing. And I unfortunately, it didn't end well. We were going through a lot, and then you see in season two that I find out that I'm pregnant, and it just became too much. And sometimes that happens in life.
Yeah, there are so many things I love about Zach. First off, he's good looking. Yeah. Love that. No, there's so many things. I love that, how much of a hard worker he is, even though he's taken on the role of being a stay-at-home dad. I've always loved- It's hard as shit. Yes, it is hard. It's way hard. It's harder than med school, to be honest.
Credits to all the stay-at-home moms and stay-at-home dads. It's not easy. I love that he's just so hardworking and anything he's ever set his mind to, he's always been able to do that and go 100%. So, you know, when he wanted to marry me and that was a goal, he went 100% and made that happen.
When I was walking away from our marriage and he decided this is what I wanted, he walked away from med school and said, I'm going 100% at it. I'm doing it. He's always been really, really good at that and whatever he wants in his life. And I love that about him. Um, Because it motivates me and my intentions and things that I want in life. I love that he's smart and intelligent.
I love... I mean, the world hasn't been able to see the other parts of Zach, but he really does have a big... big heart and he cares a lot. And he's an amazing father. He cares about me. He cares about his children and he is always thinking about his children. We wouldn't have our doctor's appointment set up and all the things, you know, if it wasn't for him, I'm all over the place.
Like ADHD, he's always like, hey, like are are they getting the nutrients that they need? Are they doing this? Like he really is just so good at that. He's a great friend. He's loyal. He is
so loyal we've got the golden retriever i would say i'm the golden retriever he's like the shepherd like he like protects and he's loyal and he's hard working like that is like zach to his core and yes like he is very opinionated i love that about him though he's not fake about it he's gonna say how it is he's straight up i have a tendency to be a people pleaser and not really vocalize
But he motivates me and brings out that side in me of this is what I want and this is how I'm going to get it. Yeah, there's... I could go on all day.
And for me, it was kind of like the last straw. And I feel like I spent a lot of time suffering, but not really vocalizing that. And it got to a point where it was just too much. And I said...
you know what I think I need to take a step back and the if it wasn't for the pregnancy I don't think I would have done that because at that point it no longer just became about me it became about this baby and protecting this baby and so I really needed to do that and um Yeah, I learned so much. This has been the most impactful pregnancy journey that I've experienced.
And I'm grateful how everything turned out. It's obviously going to be really hard watching back season two. We still haven't watched it. But there's just so much to learn. And I...
feel like my purpose in life is just learning from all experiences you can learn in life and through that I hope to progress as a better version of myself and I obviously have made a lot of mistakes I think we all have but I think that's just part of the journey so.
Oh, absolutely.
I do agree with everything you just said. I do think I have a lot of people pleasing tendencies. I do think that a lot of the dishonesty that maybe you see in season two where I wasn't just straight up right up front came from me living in fear and
not me I've never really had for the most part like any like ill intent I think it's just a lot of things that I've had to even just work through in therapy with yeah trying to be accepted and and having issues with that I do feel like everything I showed in season one was accurate to how I was feeling. I never saw Zach Foley as this narcissist, but I did see a lot of narcissistic traits.
And I did feel like through my own hurt and reflection, I did see him as that. And that was my truth at that time. And obviously, we had never gone to therapy at that point. I'd never seen him put in that full effort. So at that time, like that That was how I felt. And going into season two, I did live in that fear of like, will he actually make those changes?
And like, I think a lot of people in marriages go through those stages of life where like, they're like, will they change? And will they do those things? And
In season two you see a lot of that hurt the hurt from season one in the the past couple of years we're kind of like bottled up in season two and I was just Living in like this hurt and honestly rage I'd been quiet for so long I'd been a people pleaser for so long that like there's a combination of rage people pleasing fear and change. Like, I just was going through all of it. I want to change.
But my old self was still coming out. But like, I'm still evolving into this new person and I'm calling people out. But like, am I being fully honest with myself? Like, there is a lot of just like, what's going on? There's a lot to navigate. And I...
maybe it seems like i had like maybe fed into like what the girls were saying that was never really the case i think i was already bottling up a lot of feelings and i never i mean there's a reason why i isolated myself after season one is i truly was trying to figure out what was best for me and that's why i also isolated myself in season two with the whole like uh me being dishonest i want to be clear i don't mean to cut you off but
Everyone's told me that I just look like the biggest liar in season two.
Yeah, I'll just lay this out like this is my full truth. And I don't know if it's shown at all in season two. But with the whole Chippendales thing, first off, I don't know what's shown in the show. But yeah, to be just fully transparent and transparent. Saying this with my like literally like full honest truth.
I went and got my hair done at Jesse Salon and I was never like it was never supposed to be brought up like nothing about the whole like them throwing a Chippendales party was supposed to be brought up. The only reason why to me ended up bringing it up. is because I told her about like my ketamine experience and how we fully healed from Chippendales.
And to be honest, I wasn't being fully honest with them at that point being at the salon because I was trying to protect my marriage and I didn't know how season two was going to go. And so her hearing that she was like, well, then maybe I should show you tell you about like this Chippendales party that I was going to.
And so I was kind of people pleasing with them at that moment and kind of just being a yes girl and saying whatever. But I didn't actually fully realize what I was saying yes to. And there wasn't also full transparency. Chippendales dancer was never brought up to me, me being seated like it was very much like. seemed very much like lighthearted.
But at the same time, I also wasn't being fully honest with them and Zach because I had never vocalized even there being a strip show at Chippendales. And so that was kind of just like in passing. But I think what's confusing for me is like it would have never been brought up if I wasn't at the salon that day. So what was your intent?
behind hosting that because you wouldn't have told me if I wasn't there and if I hadn't told you where we were at in our marriage what would that have looked like and then of course like when we got there and Zach didn't know what was going on and then all of a sudden Chippendale's dancer was there me being seated I was just kind of like I knew about this I didn't know the extent of it now everyone's calling me a liar the Ben Affleck thing I've always been fully honest about that I never made that up that was never lie it was brought up that's still something we're
like trying to like figure out, was that a joke? Did your grandpa get the wrong Ben Affleck? Like that was never something I ever lied about. But the only person that deserves an apology with that whole thing is Zach. And I've given that to him because I wasn't fully transparent with him.
Thank you for having us.
I think it was both. I think we went through a lot after Vegas. And yeah, it was really hard having the whole world vocalize their opinions. And I think there was a lot of truth that came out after Vegas that I think we both didn't realize was happening in our relationship because of what was traditionally taught to us. And it made us take a step back and kind of look in the mirror.
It's very interesting that she keeps coming out and calling me a liar and saying things that I made these things up. It really is her deflect. on the truth that happened after Vanderpump Villa. She knew that I was going to talk about it and she didn't want me to talk about it. Therefore, she used Chippendales and that whole Halloween party to make it seem like I was this biggest liar.
So if I did bring it up, no one would believe me. And at that point, she was in a perfect place to do that because I was isolated from the group. So she could tell the whole group how she found. She could convince the whole group that this was happening. But that was just not the case at all. And I mean, you'll see later on that more receipts are shown, like more proof is shown. And like...
It's just honestly like her freaking out and her deflecting.
Yeah, my opinion on it is I think Demi pushed boundaries. in Vanderpump Villa.
Yes. And I called her out for it and she was very upset in Italy. She was like, how dare you tell me what my own boundaries are in my marriage? Like, how dare you? Like, this is like, I can do what I want. Kind of the same mentality of like, what she brought in Vegas, but it was almost what, I mean, you also called me though.
I think what's, what was hard for me was like, this has happened before. I've heard this from, other people like when she in her past marriages that this would happen and so for me like I just kind of like told her like if you want to flirt with this guy or whatever like you can go do that like that's your boundary in your marriage like whatever but
But I'm making it very clear that I don't want to be associated with that. And I was worried at that point, are they going to edit it in a way that we're all flirting with these guys? I want to make it very clear that I'm just here to have a fun girls trip and I'm not trying to...
Yeah, welcome back, Jen. I'm back, guys.
Absolutely. And I think at that point, she was just like, maybe she had realized. But later, after the trip, she ended up having a conversation with Brent, and she was bawling on the phone. And she was like... I went too far. I should have gone to bed at 8 p.m. When you went to bed, Jen, I think I may have pushed this too far. Will you guys please not tell anyone?
And at that point, I'll be straight up. She was never truly a true friend to me. I, she'd never been loyal to me. She exposed all of my text messages in Vegas for her own benefit and for her own storyline. It never felt like she was a true loyal friend to me. So at that point I had my guard up and I own this. Like I told Michaela, I'm not a loyal friend to her.
So if she comes at me and my marriage again, season two, like I'm going to bring this up because it's not fair. It's not fair for you to keep pointing fingers at my marriage. Make your whole storyline about how I'm in this toxic marriage, yada, yada, yada. But then we don't talk about your marriage because we all know that there's things happening.
And anyone who's gone through issues in their marriage, it's not easy. Like when you go through a hard patch and there can be a lot of factors. But and in this case, it wasn't just like, oh, we're going to marriage counseling. It was like it was so much more magnified because our whole life had been exposed. And so, yeah, maybe you can.
Season two happened and I mentioned it in the scene with me, Zach, Demi and Jesse. I brought it up right after that scene. She ends up calling me and I have this voice recording. She calls me and she tries to coach me on what to say if they ask me about Vanderpump Villa.
Also, yeah, it was frustrating because then right after Vanderpump Villa, she was inviting him to a dinner. Like, I have voice recordings of her saying, I want him to come to dinner. And I said, I sent her.
Marciano. I sent a voice recording back and I said, absolutely not. I will not be at that dinner. I do not want to be associated with that man. Like, it's very.
This was right before season one came out.
Before season one came out. And then she said, I want to invite him to the premiere. I think it would be a great time. And then I heard from the other girls. There was weird DMs that she was sending him. And she was FaceTiming him with mod. Just nothing, nothing added up. And then why are you coaching me on what to say with Vanderpump Villa and that...
to say that I was wrong for questioning her boundaries and her marriage. Nothing adds up. Everything keeps changing.
And then saying that I lied about that. I'm like, that literally happened. Like,
She tried to get me to be quiet. What would be your purpose behind keeping me quiet? What's your reasoning behind that? And so for me, she can call me.
Yes, which, okay.
Yes. Hopefully.
Well, if not, I'll be posting on my social. I'm just kidding.
Yeah, at that point, I felt like a lot of guilt and just I felt guilty for... not being proactive and because I wasn't on birth control, like kind of putting ourselves in that situation because, you know, having a baby is like a big deal. I mean, you're responsible for a human being coming into this life. And so I don't think... I truly think that I wasn't being responsible during that time.
And I felt bad because at that point, I didn't know where our marriage was headed. I didn't know if we were headed to divorce or if we were going to fight. And so for me, I felt guilt just bringing this baby into this life at such a vulnerable, hard time. And for me, I was like, this is the last thing I need right now. And I can barely take care of myself.
How am I supposed to take care of this baby and take care of my kids and do all these things and be a part of the show and fight for our marriage? Really, my head was like going into circles. But honestly, if it wasn't for finding out that I was pregnant, I don't think I would have prioritized my mental health as much as I did and prioritize getting help.
Because, yeah, again, at that point, it didn't no longer was about me. It was about this baby taking care of this baby, protecting this baby. And, um, I mean, people tell you like how you go about your life, what you put in your, you know, like what you, what you eat and like just pregnancy is a big deal.
Like everything, the way that you're living your life and how you're taking care of your body, it affects the baby. It affects the baby for the rest of their life. That's where my head was at. And I was really like just worried about But of course, I truly feel like this baby is what saved me during that time.
This baby gave me the strength to push through, ask for help, get the therapy that I needed. And yeah, I...
I'm grateful for that and I I can't wait to meet this baby and I can't wait to tell her tell her or him I think it's her I don't know when they're older that like they saved me during one of the hardest times in my life and you're truly like the biggest blessing and um I can't wait to tell them all the things that I learned during those those moments so
Thank you.
I thought like after Vegas, like, oh, I'm perfect. Like he's the one with issues. And it wasn't until like after season two and going to therapy where I was like, oh, I've got issues too. I've got flaws that I need to work on too. And that's marriage.
Yeah, I was like, I was like, you're about to move to Hawaii and you want to hang out? Like, why else would you want to hang out? I was like, no, thanks.
I decided to go on a reality TV show instead.
I'm just kidding.
Which is actually a long time.
Oh, I was all in. My manager told me about it. She's like, it was also it was right after Taylor went to jail and my manager called me and she's like, hey, they're like recasting for this like Mormon wife show. Like, would you want to do it? And at first I was hesitant, of course, because. everything that had happened with Taylor. I didn't know anyone from MomTalk.
And I was just kind of like, oh, like, I don't really know what this is about. And at that point, I was very at a stage in my life that I was trying to keep up with an image. I was trying to keep up with an image on my social media. And that's a big thing in the Mormon culture. Like, I do think there's this pressure to look perfect, be perfect. And I was just kind of like, ah, I
don't know if like that would look good for my brand. Genuinely, I was thinking that like, I don't know like what they're trying to do. And then they told me it would be called Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I was like, oh, like they're there. And this was after the Mormon swinging. So of course, I'm like, they're probably going to want to make that about that.
But I before deciding I had done the casting interview and they basically told me I got it. And I was still hesitant. But then I met up with the girls for the first time. And I was like, wait, I love this group. Like, I love these girls. And yeah, the rest is history. And I kind of went in with just being like, you know what? Like, I do think...
Just to be completely honest, being married to Zach, I did feel like I wanted to keep up with protecting our image. Honestly, for your family, he comes from a very wealthy family who are pretty known within your community. Yeah.
like I I did worry about like disappointing his family and so there is that worry but also like I've naturally always been vulnerable and I've always wanted to share my story so that I went in with that that mindset and that still is my mindset I I just want to share my story and even if that means I'm showing the ugly like uh
It's true.
Speaking of crazy sex stories, should we talk about White Lotus?
I didn't love it.
Whose situation would you want to be in the least from, like, everybody on this show? Definitely not interested in jerking off my brother. Yeah, definitely not interested. Like, you wake up on a Monday morning and you're one of these people. Like, what's the biggest nightmare here? Like, going to prison. The dad, yeah. Like, wanting to kill yourself.
She had a whole conversation with her husband the next day.
You know what? Fuck that, though.
She was laying right there. I'm like, you guys are crazy.
Thank you.
And they will have houses by then. Hopefully we'll have solved the problem.
Yeah. Then we did. Send it back. Blame me. Truly. Well.
Hello, hello. I'm excited.
I've been really good. I've been really excited since the show aired, and now I can finally talk about my experience.
Absolutely.
Yeah, so I'll start like right at the end of the show. I was fully aware that he probably wasn't going to ask me to leave in the bonfire with him. We had had some conversations that they cut out where we talked about him being a little bit too messy and he needed to like figure out his own relationship with himself and Ashley and everything off of the island.
And he had stuff moved in in her place. And I was like, I think it's better if we're going to pursue this after, you know, that we pursue it after and that you kind of leave alone to work on yourself. I was more thinking there was like a 10% chance, even though we had those conversations, he would still ask to leave with me.
But so I was ready and we did have like a full conversation after that final bonfire that they completely cut out as well, which I was sad about because I felt like I looked really good that day. But and then after that, we left the island. Well, we finished filming and then me, Kay, Tyler and Grant, we all stayed on the island for like four more days immediately after filming.
So even though we didn't leave the island together, we immediately went to the hotel together and spent four days.
Yeah. And it was actually so much fun. We had the best time because we were all like, we have our phones back now. We're back in real life. This is super weird. And so it was nice to kind of like all be together and do that.
Ooh, good question. I think that like watching it back, it was definitely interesting to see like the way he was crying at the bonfire and probably knowing and feeling the energy from Ashley that she wasn't going to choose to leave with him. And that even though he went first, she was probably going to leave with Danny. So I'm sure it played a big role. You know, I think that Grant...
really wanted both ashley and i and obviously clearly he was playing both sides like the entire time and even like off the island that sounds like grand yeah yeah definitely when i said like oh messy you know like hindsight's 2020 i look back and i'm like damn Messier than I kind of originally thought, but I knew going into it that it was kind of problematic.
Yeah. Like right now. I was a little disappointed that nobody asked Juliana how she felt about Latia's exit. Oh, that's a good, yeah.
But I think that it definitely played a big part because he knew that she was with Danny. And so he also probably wanted, you know, something for himself. And like, we did get really close on the island. So regardless of like how things would have been off the island, I guess in real life, we spent four weeks literally just getting to know each other. So we did build like a strong connection.
You could say it's very.
home to Oregon to go stay with my family and see them. And so Grant and I had been in contact since we got our phones back or like separated. And then he called me when I was home in Oregon and was like, so I have this trip in Maryland. It's a work trip. Everything will be paid for, you know, just come out and I want to see you outside the island.
And at first I was kind of like, I don't know, you know, like it's very soon. He had moved out of Ashley's that week, which they didn't live together full time, at least not. From my perspective, who knows?
This is what I was told. So he, and he told me that he went to go like move out of her apartment and they hardly talked to each other. And it was really just like tense.
And then he got all of his stuff out and I was like, okay, you know, now that that's done with, I guess maybe I will consider seeing you in Maryland, which I don't think that's how it actually happened when he went to go move out of our apartment. Yeah. But again, I wasn't there, so I don't totally know, but I was with my family and I was like, should I just do it?
You know, I'm a full sender, like, especially with a free trip, like twist my arm. That's totally up my alley. And so I was like, okay, I'll just do it. So I went to Maryland and we honestly had like the best trip with the best time. He was kind of filming for some of it. It was beautiful weather, sat by the pool, drank margaritas.
he was filming at this like wealth summit place. Cause he's a videographer photographer. So that's why he was there filming that.
Yes. No, this is like a completely different job that he did. So, and then we had the best time, which I was kind of, Not like surprised, but I wasn't expecting us to like really hit it off outside the island. But we did on this trip in particular.
But I kind of think that like when you get really close with someone and then they know all the things that you're looking for in a partner and they want to like pursue you and make it work. I think that that was more so what was happening than us like just actually hitting it off in real life.
I think he was trying to be genuine to the best of his ability. And I think that like he did want to be those things for me. But I think that he was so wrapped up with Ashley and so wrapped up in his own like issues and stuff that he was having that it was just impossible for him to be those things long term.
maybe there's some truth in that i just like i think that he does have like a lot of his own stuff that he needed to work through and jumping from ashley to me like with literally like negative time in between there was no way he was going to be able to work on those things even though i think he knows what he needs to work on how long has it been since all of that this was last june do you think he's done the work
That was like the start of our off island thing. So we said our goodbyes in the airport and then he ended up chasing me down to my gate. It was this whole dramatic grant style thing where I was the last one to board and I was sitting there waiting for him to come. And then he was like, I want to jump into this with you. You know, like we had the best trip. Let's be exclusive.
And again, like I said, I'm a full sender and I was like, okay, we just had the best trip, you know, let's do it. I'm down. And that lasted like a month. Yeah. It was very short-lived.
Yeah, I'd say that's accurate. I think that, yeah, you nailed it.
No, so some people might be surprised to hear, I in fact wasn't, but he ended up cheating on me with Ashley. Okay. About a month in. And he called me right after and told me about it.
Yeah, so props to him for that. But I'll give him that.
Some people take accountability. People say you can't take accountability, but he did with me. So immediately I, he's the type of person too, which I was not so much. So like, this was one thing that we kind of like didn't align with in real life is he wants to like constantly talk to me. And so he went like a couple hours without texting me. And I was like,
something's weird like Grant's always texting me and I called my best friend and I was like I swear he's got to be with Ashley and she was like no like you're crazy you're crazy I was like no I'm telling you like woman's intuition call whatever you want but like I swear he's with Ashley right now and she was like okay and then an hour later Grant called me and I was like were you with Ashley and he was like yeah and I was like okay well did you kiss her and he was like yeah and
And then I was like, okay, well, I guess that's all I need to know. Like, I'm never going to talk to you again. I'll see you at the premiere. And our conversation was like five minutes long. And then I hung up.
Yeah, it was just a kiss, at least from when I've talked about it with Ashley. Yes. Okay, okay. that was like just enough for me in the call where I was like, okay, you disrespected me, cross the line. And him and I had had that conversation before. Cause obviously like, this isn't like shocking news that Grant would cheat on me. It's kind of his character.
So we had, I had drawn that line like very clear before that if he was to disrespect me in any way with Ashley or with any girl for that matter, I would give him like a minute or two to explain himself and then, and I would never speak to him again. So. Hmm. That's exactly what I did.
Well, so I had, like, heard about the bonfire clips. But again, like, everything that we heard from what happened in the bonfire clips was from the boys themselves. We didn't actually have, like, contact with the women in the other house until after or anyone, for that matter. And so, like, seeing the bonfire clips for myself and seeing how much less bad they were than the boys' bonfire clips.
But when the boys came home, they needed, like, maximum support and comforting and... Yeah. The nerve. Was this before or after the shower? What did she do? I don't even remember.
connecting too heavily in the beginning because it was more so me and leno and then that kind of took a turn i think it was right before the first bonfire grant and i had a deep conversation and then kind of just like started blossoming from there but when he came home from the first bonfire he was like so distraught about what happened that i was like there's no way like that a they're getting back together he was walking around the house like a single man like he wouldn't be able to forgive ashley for what he saw and then again watching it back i don't even remember what happened either
I'm like, what?
So we, we knew that the camera was put up there that day. There wasn't even a camera in there for like until the second week. And so we were fully aware that like the shower scene was probably going to be something that was, I mean, it was a bigger deal. I thought when they aired it, but yeah, we were fully aware.
Um, not in that shower scene, no.
My name's Natalie, and if you like it from the front, you're gonna love it from the other side. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
So I actually said that in my final interview and they reminded me that I said that. And they were like, oh, you should, like, I was like, oh yeah, this would be on today. So I did. That's a Natalie original. Hope you guys liked it.
Well, I wrote that before I watched the last three seconds of the show and she was brought out. I just felt like she wasn't there.
Yeah.
That really caught me by surprise. He was fully aware that we were on live too and still chose to call her and do that. He joined my live and then was in the comments. And mind you, this is the most interaction that I've had with him in eight months was me reading his comments out loud.
But I was like, I'm just telling Ashley, because when you're on live with someone, they can't see the comments that are in yours. So I was reading them. And then he kept telling us, add me, add me. And I was like, I'm not adding you to my life. And I didn't even know how, honestly, at that point, it was like my second time ever going live. And then she was like, I'm not adding you.
And then he ended the live and ended up just calling her and was like, let's go, let's go. Let's talk about it. Be real, be raw. And I was just like so uncomfortable the entire time. Like I was not expecting him to do that. I felt like it was completely uncalled for. And knowing that there's an audience too is just like crazy.
I feel like I wouldn't have any questions for Ashley. I feel like more so with Grant. How much of him maybe knew that he was going to get back together with Ashley maybe in the future? You know, like...
He made it seem very much so like they were never going to really speak again and that he was like, like way done with their relationship and he was dealing with like the end of their relationship that it was like so toxic, but it's like how much of you probably knew that. the entire time that he was going to go back together with her.
She got the last 45 seconds. They're like, I will bring out Zoe for the next 30 seconds.
Something like that.
You can put your own twist on it.
I think that I did trust my instincts right away. And I was fully aware of the fact that he is toxic and like is used to toxic behavior like this. But again, in real life, I think that situation would have played out differently. But because I was on a show via temptress and we were only...
halfway through is that I was kind of faced, I guess, with two options where it's like, okay, you know, I told him how I feel. I drew the line, but it's not like in real life where it's like, I'm going to just hop on out of here. It's like, we're living in the same house. You know, we're still going to be going on dates and building a connection.
And I felt like he reacted well to how I responded with how I felt about the situation and that I didn't like that. And I wasn't going to
I was not really a fan of the guitar.
Yeah, there was nothing to do, to be fair. There was no TV, no phones or anything. But I personally would have rather done anything else or just like had a conversation. But there was a lot more of the guitar that didn't air. We wrote a song as a cast. They didn't air that.
They did her dirty. Yeah, she got no hot seat. She didn't get to talk to Grant at Women Tell All. She didn't get to talk to Grant at AFR.
I think I'm somewhere in between. I'm not in love and I'm not seriously dating anyone. I am dating around here and there, but I'm probably not going back on Temptation Island. I mean, if they call me back, they need a temptress. I guess I couldn't say no, but you never know.
I feel like a different show, maybe.
No, I'd say that feels right.
Yeah. Thanks so much for having me on. It was great to virtually meet you guys.
Maybe she had something to say, but no one asked.
Or like playing pretend and like choosing a different name.
Oh my God, the longest question ever. The golden Bachelor in Paradise. It was like, so.
You go to Pilates after you shower?
Oh!
Because it's bad?
Isn't an airport though different? Isn't it like at any time in an airport? That's true. It's like 5 o'clock somewhere in an airport.
Yeah, when I had come home, I was like, I guess we'll see if it's still there.
Yeah, and be checking in on everybody constantly, seeing how everyone was doing. Yeah, very weird being on the other side.
Absolutely. You wouldn't eat charcuterie with Sarah now, would you?
Naturally, as a person, I am quite by the book.
Thank you for having me.
Oh, yeah. It's Versace. A little something something in here. You know what I mean? A little light vodka. Oh, there we go.
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But it's like you have to get down to like their level and be like, OK, you haven't unlocked like this part of you yet. And that's why like we have these issues.
I was like, ding-ding.
What is, like, traits or qualities that you think keep a friendship, like, lasting? Like, how do you think you've made these friendships last so long?
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I mean, you started in this industry modeling, correct? I moved to New York at 15 to pursue a modeling career and I have nothing but like trauma and bad memories about that time in my life. How do you look back at that time in your life?
You know, that was so cool. You did play a very interesting and like sexual, powerful character. What were your original thoughts of Kat?
Like, I don't think I'll ever get that.
That is all of our reactions. We had a lot of prosthetic penises. A lot. A lot.
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That is nice. Sensitive subject, Angus Cloud's death. How, obviously, we saw that affect the world. How did that affect cast and you personally? I mean...
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Is it easy for you to cook for like one person or are you like, guys, I'm cooking, everyone come over. I need everyone to come. I will not cook for myself.
So you're, like, it has to, like, plate. I like a good plate. So do I. I always feel bad because I, like, try to plate my 13-month-old daughters, like, perfectly. And she's, like, screaming, crying. And I'm, like, just, honey, if I can just get this perfectly.
I love that. That's so cute. It's a thought that counts. It is. It is. She doesn't understand yet. She doesn't understand yet, but she will. I've taken a photo of every one of her meals and she'll be like, thanks mom. They're a cute little plate.
Her hands like in all of them like going for something in all the pictures. It's really cute. So cute.
It's like being from the South.
So she's not like, I want a grandbaby.
Nick's sister saw one, and she said that... The psychic said, the brother closest to you is going to have twins. And that's Nick. And I was like, oh.
I think it skips generations.
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Yeah, but to make it up, all the way up to the egg, yeah.
but that's what makes it's not identical so I guess both eggs what's crazy is my sister has twins and they are so identical that their like fingerprint DNA is the same those are fascinating crazy imagine just having like
And they're like, but we've been together for eight years. I can't just throw it away.
I believe so. That's with like the older, older ladies. And the first season was like with the younger. Yeah.
But then they brought in the, they brought in the, the like, was it the dads and sons?
I feel like... There's no one that you're specifically drawn to from history that you're like, that would just be an interesting...
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I was about to say, I'm sure it's like you probably didn't realize it or know that that would happen going into it. But like healing your younger self from like what you experienced from your dad through like playing this whole character and like building this bond with this guy. It's like I feel like that was incredibly healing for you just as like your inner child.
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Because you started working on this in 2021? Yeah. Or before?
That is a long time to be sitting on something, though. To just like be working on it, sitting on it, constantly thinking about it. That's a long time. I know. It's been my secret.
Listen, love letters don't come around very often.
I think it was my birthday. He did write out a hundred reasons why I love you.
That's nice. That's so sweet.
There was a few like, there was a few like your eyes. There was definitely like your toenails. I really just let's get specific.
Yeah, all of them for sure. But I think number one is physical touch too.
It's really hard to be like definitely not acts of service, you know, to have someone be like one of these love languages is like absolutely not my way. You know, it's like they're all lovely and I would love to feel all of them all the time.
For me, it was like my, you know, I was taught that like love is hard. And like, so I went through all these relationships where it was bad. It was ugly. There was, you know, violence and, you know, all of this stuff. And it was like, but this is like, it's hard because it's love. And you're supposed like, this is what it is. Okay. I've got it.
Now that like I'm with Nick, I realized that no, love is like the easiest fucking thing. It should be the easiest thing in the world. Like it should be so easy to just be in love and love your person. Yeah.
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And you know, no, you know, it's like, I will win an Oscar.
I feel like that scenario has unfortunately happened several times to a lot of artists. Is that something that you've been able to connect with anyone about or have any sort of like relatability with anyone?
1-800-WITH-LOGIC was a crazy important part of culture. I feel like that was, I mean, for someone who has experienced life in that realm, you know, I feel like that was huge for me. How important was that to you? And like, how did that even, that collaboration become about?
You did get into this industry very young. I mean, how old were you when you first started? Like, I mean, I know you released that your debut album at 18, right?
Because I feel like that feeling... of, you know, wanting to take your own life comes from a sense of aloneness.
It comes from a sense of like, I don't belong here. I'm the only one who's feeling this. So yeah, to put out this song and have these two huge celebrities, these two huge artists be like, we get you, we see you, like here is the help that you can go to if you need this was like, was crazy important. So I give you big props for that. That was huge.
And I remember the performance at the MTV Awards, too.
So you must have been working on that for quite some time before.
Okay, okay. Salt Lake City. Start with Rihanna's favorite. Is that hers? Her favorite is Salt Lake City.
I eat it up every time. I love it. I feel like it's because the stakes are so high. It's like they're getting married. I know. The only other thing would be like, okay, fine.
So it's like you have some time to be like, oh, fuck. I don't know if that's my first time.
Oh, Chelsea. Chelsea.
Going back really quickly to your debut album, has it been a 10-year anniversary yet or not yet?
I feel like I mean, obviously, we all change throughout life. We all make mistakes. We grow. We learn. We have different seasons. I honestly don't even relate to the person I was before I became a mom. Oh, yeah. So like, is there parts of you that still see yourself in your 18 year old self releasing that album? Or are you kind of like? I have just grown so much from who that person was.
I don't know. I think like filming yourself, like dancing in front of your cousins and your mom to like get a sleepover that night, you know, it was like, mom, watch our routine.
And then like that being what the world is watching, you know, ever. Yeah.
Like you don't have, I mean like- That's even more embarrassing.
And it's also like relationships in real life, you know.
What was that conversation like, though, with your dad? Was it was it kind of like, I think I can sing like I want to be a singer or was like your family kind of being like, you have this talent, you should pursue this?
I know. I'm like watching my husband like fall in love and kiss and like go on romantic dates with other women. I think I'm okay. I think I'm okay. I'd rather actually skip it. I'll watch the Cliff Notes. I've seen the crazy like things that have happened on his seasons. But I know we have to wrap up soon. I do have a question about music videos.
Is that something that you are just as passionate about or is that something? Because I feel like music videos have kind of Obviously, when MTV was, they were all the rage. It was everything. Now they've kind of fallen off.
But I feel like they're kind of coming back in a way where artists are really putting their heart and soul into their music videos just as much as they did the songs and the album itself. Do you feel that same way? Or are you kind of like, eh, could do without?
I didn't realize, yeah, I didn't realize you put it on SoundCloud and that's where it... Wow. Yeah.
And then I mean, your life completely changed after that. How how did you manage going through a complete life change?
behind the scenes for like movies or like write scripts and stuff that's always been something that's interested me I mean you're obviously talented in writing so it makes sense that you would like carry that on with whatever you did yeah next if you had to do something next it also like makes sense I know you said it sounded kind of weird but like
Finally someone said it, Nick.
It was a choice.
Oh, really? Yeah, we're at.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely. Should we leave, Taylor?
You were jackhammering?
So music video, people aren't really watching them like they used to.
And you ate it and then you saw the worm?
I didn't know if you took a bite and then you saw the worm or if you saw the worm first.
What was your role in the music video?
Yeah.
I mean, listen, the video vixens are sitting on this couch. So I myself am a video vixen. Damn, I was in a Bad Bunny music video.
You weren't oopsing. I did it again.
Okay.
Were you sweating or were you like, eh, she probably just read about me?
If it happened... Listen, I messaged Nick and then I was like, forgot about it, don't care. And then two hours later, he messaged me back and I was like, oh my God.
Yeah, I know. You had two weeks, I had two hours.
Really?
He slid into his DMs? Yeah.
You had to pick the restaurant?
course. What do you mean? Well, I didn't know. I thought she was like, have you had sushi? Let's go get sushi. Here's the place.
Love it.
But who was the first person you told when you went to go get sushi?
Psychic. Psychic.
You're not jaded by anything. You're not jaded. With him, I didn't watch anything that he was on. And so when I met him, I fell in love for him. And then all these people were like, oh, well, he was such a villain on this show. And it's like, well, if I would have watched that, maybe you wouldn't be here today. So yeah, I think it's definitely going in with a clear.
Yeah.
That's true.
Thank you.
What was your relationship like with her father? I know obviously he was in control of a lot of stuff. I remember reading he would have conversations with anyone she'd go on dates with about her like medical history and sexual history. And I mean, just giving details out to anyone for anything. What was your relationship like with him?
I can imagine it can be hard. Just, I know like being in a relationship, like I want to protect Nick to the fullest extent. I know he feels the same way about me. I love being in this relationship because I feel so safe and protected. And I'm sure that was like your number one thing too, of being like, I want to protect this person. Yeah.
And I can imagine it was just hard having so many other people involved.
That you couldn't feel like you truly had her. That's what it is.
Anything that has to do with a dog.
It's unbelievable. Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
How would you make a pizza gourmet?
Is it by pushing it?
How'd you learn that?
I feel like you've had just an insane life in general. What is one of the hardest things you've been through and how did you overcome it? What did you learn from it?
You find the light in everything.
I said... you know what?
But how is that? How did you get to this headspace of like, y'all can't get to me? Because I feel like that's a hard place to get to.
You don't have to wear the headphones, but if you pull the mic close.
You did it. Yeah.
Sit in front of a fan. Yes.
Yeah.
The Ewan Ion's social media is, I think, so funny. Ion, I love Ion. Her thinking, everyone on Survivor, they were surviving from diseases. She didn't know that was an actual show.
Have you ever wanted to play someone in the military? Because this could be your way of doing that.
He's not gonna be a reality whore. That makes sense.
Are you insecure about your ears?
I was about to say, is this a high allergy? It used to be. I think they've cut it out of like kids' schools. They're like, you can't even.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Nick thinks his are out there, too.
It's true.
I don't think so. You've really opened up a lot. You seem to have such just an incredible look on life and head on your shoulders. I feel like it's very rare, especially meeting people in Hollywood that you had to just have the head that you have. I would attribute it to, I don't know, your family, the way you grew up. Is that right?
What were you called?
We hope to see you on our screens going forward.
It's okay. You don't have to relive.
So you were saying you were six or seven and your sisters were taken by the morality police?
You came here when you were 12 with your sisters and your mom?
Where did you go when you got here and you were alone?
Do you keep in touch with anyone from that show?
Do you know what any of them are doing?
Were they asking you for tickets or were they buying tickets?
Oh, okay. The whole, like, you want to show together?
Well, I guess we can just jump to Ella Langley. I mean, this collab is massive. It is absolutely everywhere. Did you expect this to happen when you first... Did she approach you and be like, hey, I've got this cool song idea? How did it come about?
Oh, I mean, it's stuck in my head ever since it first came out. Well, Natalie plays it a lot. It's a great song.
It's a great song. It's a fun song. Yeah. It's a fun song.
What, I mean, I think everyone in the world is shipping you and Ella. Is it, are we strictly friends?
Yeah, it is cool how both of y'all have major songs with each other.
Is your family back in Alabama?
Yeah. I also feel like I see y'all going into just random bars and playing. Like, what is the story behind that?
Oh, so that's where all these videos are from.
Okay, so y'all are just sneaking into your bar and playing a couple songs.
There's no way. There's no way.
Quick, someone quick. Was that self-deprecating to me? I didn't know what it was.
No, he's in Oklahoma. Okay. My brother-in-law just bought some farm out there to hunt on, yeah.
That's so true. I mean, it's like my family has a 300 acre animal farm in Georgia. And every time we go back, it feels like I'm talking to my sister about life out here and drama or this and that. And she's like, who?
Like, I don't know. And I'm like, God, you're right. None of it matters.
You just released Christmas to me. Have you always wanted to do... No. No.
Good morning today.
No, I know the one.
You're a duck hunter, aren't you?
That Instagram handle.
Yeah, it's not very like Deck the Halls.
There is a little jingle at the end, though, you know?
A little sleigh bell, yeah, that's about all there is.
And the album cover is Christmassy.
I never said I sound like Rihanna. I'm just saying, I couldn't put the two together.
Is that when she has the short red hair?
Y'all don't have the internet here?
You do? See, that's surprising. You know how Thanksgiving is down south, right? You better eat grandma's stuffing or you're out. Well, first Thanksgiving I brought him to, I'm like, all right, my grandma's been cooking this dressing all day long. Everyone's played their part. Everyone's cooked something. And this man made meatballs and only ate the meatballs.
It's all he touched at this Thanksgiving. And my grandmother's like, well, I don't know about this, Nick.
When he says roof, he says roof.
He was probably still wearing skinny jeans when I told him.
Would you have tried grandmother's stuffing?
He was like, I'll get back to it. I promise, Betty Sue.
You don't do everything but the kitchen sink.
Did you like choke it down or?
So I was just chugging that. Do you tell her it was good? Do you lie to her? Of course.
She'll just ride the golf cart.
Wow. They don't make them like that nowadays. Landscapers. They don't make them like an Alabama grandmother.
That doesn't keep you motivated to work out?
It's kind of hard to be an Auburn fan these days.
Yeah. You're like, well, all right. Another loss. Could be worse, I guess. Did you watch the Georgia game? The eight overtimes?
That was insane. Who were they playing?
Georgia Tech. Yeah. That's crazy. Do you cheer for any other SEC, even though Auburn's – Auburn? Yeah.
How are you Auburn?
Yards like the parking lot.
Do you get them presents?
It's easier because then you're not like guessing what they want. They're not like, I already have this.
What store did you take them to, Walmart?
Yeah. They don't make tours of us anymore.
No, I think they closed them all. Yeah, unfortunately.
Do you get a lot of PR packages?
You do. Is it mostly just like beer and blue water sunglasses?
It's smart for him. Yeah. It's great. It's great. You're losing packages though.
It's less for you. That's crazy. I do remember I saw you at the music vault in Savannah years ago. And so it is real. And there was like no one there. No offense.
Oh, it's like a saddlebag. It's like a saddlebag with the, yeah, with the bull mechanical bull. So I can only imagine what like your friends and your family and your ex-girlfriends think about you now, because it is, it's wild to, for me at least to be like, oh, I was at a concert when like no one was there. And then to like, see you now. So massive.
Yeah. I think Carly Pierce was, she was sitting where you are and she was saying in like Sweden or something, she's like, they know every, they don't speak any English. She says they know every single word to all of her songs. And then the second she starts like talking to the crowd, they're all like, what?
You don't speak any French?
But you know everything he's saying, don't you? Or at least your mom does.
Your stuff sold great today.
It was like, can be for you. We tricked him. Humbling.
Yeah. Did you get, did you ride it?
But he's doing the whole thing.
He's like, it's actually collecting dust now. I haven't. Yeah.
But we did get 80% off.
Yeah, because it's a little cinnamon-y. Well, I can trick myself into thinking anything.
It must get a little frustrating to have everyone want to know so much about your love life because I think you personally keep it so private and it makes people want it more because you're like, I'm not talking about it. There's nothing, you know, and they're like, we've got to know. We have to know what's going on in Riley Green's love life.
I just know that that's like people. I mean, you were at the CMAs. It was like, who is the hottest person in country music? Carrie Underwood, Riley Greene.
That's a group there. Right? Yeah. I think you said Carrie Underwood, didn't you?
I just think it's wild that people are, you know, they always want what they have.
Are you the type that has a notes app of your future kids' names on it?
Have you already picked out your dog's name?
Or like batteries, Chinese food.
You didn't know which one it was going to be when you got one?
She's not even interested. No.
Did you send her off to training, or did you?
Ooh. Ooh, that hurts my stomach.
Ooh. What are you supposed to have? Coconut powdered donuts.
She can smell the blood from a deer and she can also smell the second that bag opens up and that powder dust.
What'd your dad say?
He said, Riley, your dog ate a chicken today.
Your dog ate a chicken today. That's how he sounded. He said it just like that. That's how he sounded. Oh, that's funny. Do you have a favorite? No. Does your mom have a favorite song of yours?
Interesting. Did she have any follow up questions when you were like, Mom, this is a new song?
She's going to love this one.
Do your sisters, like, do they know that you're the favorite?
Well, that can't be a bad place to stay.
There's several things.
Physical touch, words of affirmation. And she probably was like, my love language is this.
That's crazy. I remember Bear Me and Dixie and Georgia Time both because it was... Well, being from where you're from.
So am I, and so is River.
For the Chinese dragon.
For the Chinese, yeah. Oh, that's not the same thing? That's not the same thing, no. The love language is like, how do you show love to a romantic?
And there's physical touch.
Are you sleeping? No, so there's four of them.
Can I tell you the four?
No, no, because none of them are bad.
It's not like a right or wrong. There's no favorite. Yeah, there's no favorite. It's like you're in a relationship.
And it's like no one ever writes songs about being an Auburn fan or being...
Words of affirmation, right? No, there's words of affirmation. There's gifts. There's acts of service and physical touch.
And quality time, sorry. Grab that one.
Okay, so definitely not. You do not want to be touched.
I'm always like, let me get inside of your skin. And he's like, I don't really want to be a part of that.
You know, you wouldn't be into that?
Yeah, we're talking about a romantic situation.
Done. Quality time.
That Amazon is working for you. It is.
Definitely introverted. Yeah.
You would make her a cup of coffee and you'd bring it to her and that's how you're showing love. You're not scratching her back.
He's an oil. Oil. How does your grandma say it?
You should call her when you leave her an ass.
Okay. No, there's no way.
Well, everybody, Christmas to me is out, and it is the best Christmas song of the year. Riley Green, everybody. Thank you.
Do you play them both at shows today?
Do you listen to those songs today? I'm sure your voice has evolved.
It's crazy that people are still falling for it.
How jarring, though, to be like, well, then who the fuck did I send money to? I don't know. Oh, yeah. That is crazy. I will say I tried to find something about you and everyone loves you. There is nothing. I could not find a negative thing about you. You didn't look hard enough, I'm sure. Maybe not, but I did have my daughter calling around.
Were you a bit of a hell raiser?
I think that's what a lot I mean, we I think Dustin Lynch kind of opened up about how it's it's hard to date when you're just traveling the world. You're gone nonstop. You're just it's a nonstop lifestyle. And so he was he was talking to us about that, too, about just like it's not easy to just find someone who's OK with that. And, you know.
So what's keeping you in Nashville? I mean, it's, I've,
But I also feel like in the South, it's like everyone drives anyways. You know, it's like when you're out here, you're so far from anything. But like in the South, it's like Tennessee's right there and Florida's right there. And, you know.
And obviously there's a lot more to you.
I have some stuff to say.
Yeah, literally.
Yeah.
But yeah.
And it's Toby.
This is a year later.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, exactly. The one percent is the loudest.
Yeah.
But my own, yeah.
We can stay.
Up until like 7 to 8 a.m. or so.
Oh, in the closet. Yeah, yeah. Just whatever.
Love you. Love you too. But yeah, I had a sunny day. It was like, oh, it was perfect. Yeah. Yeah.
Yes. It would have to be that. Yeah.
Was he a kicker?
Routine.
Oh, yes, yes. We had Dustin on.
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Wow.
Thank you. 40 and thriving.
I prefer that.
My family does it your way, Natalie. And I'm like, why is the pressure on me? Now I have to react a certain way to every gift. Let's just wrap it up.
What vibe are we going for? Is it modern? Is it just... Well, you'll have to follow along, Justin. Okay.
We voted for Beyonce, so we won.
Mm-hmm.
So silly, so funny.
Every line.
Yeah.
I can never do that. Yeah.
Well, not all.
Joey would never.
That's so smart.
His short king really swindled me.
Wow. It was really great.
See?
Toronto. You know them.
The intensity.
We're all over. We bounce around. We bounce here. We bounce there.
I know.
Yes. Yes, we're in Canada.
Oh, Canada.
Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. Love you guys.
Bye.
Yeah.
I later.
I thought you guys were associated.
You got to give a guy respect.
But you are.
Okay.
You're not sure yet.
Oh.
They deserve prison.
Well, and that's a thing. That's not making a TV show.
Yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate you giving me shit.
She's like, but not today. Yeah, but not now.
She's like, I hate it.
I heard that.
Oh, yeah. Ruthless. That sounds like the severance, what they do in severance and they make you write the thing over and over again.
I will let you know and I'll tell you. Yes. Yes. You were with the pigs. I was. Exuma. Exuma.
He's screaming.
it left me excited for the next season. I would agree.
Yeah. That's why I'm excited. It was very satisfying. It makes me excited for the next.
Do you feel like PETA should be called? No.
And what do you really think about Victoria?
Do you like her?
Oh, yeah, we're done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're done. Fuck. Is that about Light Lotus? No. Severance.
Well, I guess we can talk about this tomorrow, but since we are on the topic of severance and white Lotus, did you see that Jennifer Coolidge gives spicy update on how white Lotus changed her sex life? She said, these men like you better because they feel like you went through something that show really up my game. Do they think that she actually died? And they're like, oh my God. These gays.
It's the opposite. They're thriving?
Wow. Isn't that crazy? Period, sis. Pop off. I would love to know just like what her DMs look like.
As she should. I love that for her. I would love to know her roster. We love an older man.
We also do love an older man. Maybe she's going older. And I love that for her even more.
Like what? What about my direction? You weren't thinking of that? He was not thinking about you during that time. You weren't thinking of child bride? Because that was really stuck with me.
It's a very bad word. But she's not an actual. She was married to his son.
I like my suitcase.
I mean, I guess she was like, that's better than Smith. She's like Trump, baby. She said it's better than Smith. Yep.
She is the ex-daughter-in-law. I doubt she is still in the fam. I don't think she's still invited to. She is not invited to family dinners. She's not going to Thanksgiving.
What if he's like a fan? Oh.
Oh.
Honey, you're asking questions about people that I know absolutely nothing about.
Not a clue. I could not tell you honestly what her hair color even is. It was blonde. Oh, okay.
I mean, the people out here are just... Maybe they're going to be in a new film.
No, you didn't.
We didn't get it.
Chris Evans?
Chris Evans, yeah.
But they leave water for them and stuff.
I was about to say, but he did book the Christmas cruise. And he did. And he was a star. And you also had to kiss a man in something else, didn't you?
Way to call him out. Well, it was an acting. No, I'm not saying I was acting. He was acting. And you were acting.
No, you shouldn't be.
The Coop. What is that?
No, no, no.
No, I'm aware.
The Coop. Are you in that poster?
Is that Nick at the bottom? No, it's not.
No, did they Photoshop you in?
What if they took that photo together and then they're like, and then they're like, and we will put him down there.
Honestly, you are. You're a tiny little... You're an actor. I'm really... We need to watch your films. I think we should have a weekend where we just watch all of Nick's films.
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Should we get into some Southern charm?
First of all, did you know that this episode was called Arrested Development?
Can they take that?
Yeah. The main thing I took from this episode is that when they're forced to throw a party for an episode, I don't want to go.
yes she walked straight inside she didn't even isn't she a producer on the show her and whitney why then why would she interrupt an argument to say goodbye to her because she don't give a fuck there's like producers and then there's like you know yeah she's like i'm out don't care like she's like knock knock she clearly isn't there to like keep the drama ensuing no
She was like, I have to say my goodbyes to my friends. Yeah. My young friends. Yeah. She's like, bye. They're like arguing. But that place did look empty and not fun and a place I don't want to go.
this is a conversation i think he said something fucked up and he is like really trying to he's finding he's trying to figure out what word best goes with the word black okay he's like i said um a cute black girl woman a woman i called you that's what i said and then um it's like all of you just why'd you just describe her at all like why couldn't you just say like there's a
Yeah. Her name's Vanita.
Whose side are you on, Taylor or Sally's?
You think they're just trying. They're just like. I just I can.
I mean, it definitely is stupid. I think I will say the stuff in the beginning where it was like Sally was really coming after Taylor and Gaston. Yeah. And it was like you're in a relationship like. Yeah.
And Taylor came on here and she kind of explained like I was coming back into the season to like mend my relationships with these women because of last season with like the whole Olivia and Austin thing. Right. And it was like Sally took.
Did anyone like split their winnings with you?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
And we made it happen.
Did you think that Craig should have like immediately talked to Kyle on switching to Summer House? That whole like awkward conversation at the table where he's like, I'm not going to get into this right now.
Acting? She's been cast in a film.
It's like how much pull does Kyle really have with production to like, if that is the case.
I'm kind of loving their dynamic like this season. I haven't gotten too deep into it.
I do too. I do too. Sierra admitted she was like, she like called him out like about something and then she's like, God, like the time she's had really wasn't out.
I think she did.
Really?
I think at this point it is because of all, like, the press he did after and, like, that's kind of what she kept bringing up. Yeah, it's just like, shut up.
Yeah, she does. She has...
Okay.
I mean, I... But I do think she's better than him.
And as do I. And I think we do. I need the episode of Lexi and Ciara.
Whatever this is with Jessie, I need to see it.
So why is it Sierra's problem? Yeah, why is it Sierra's fault? It's Jesse's problem.
She's responding to Jesse. And she's responding to the energy that Jesse's bringing her. If Jesse approached her and was like, hey, Sierra.
Hey, Sierra. Good to see you. Then she wouldn't be like, oh my God, like hug me. She plays into it.
Nick knows everything. You need to know this by now.
It's very cool. What channel? Ion. I know what you're talking about. I-O-N. Yeah.
I will have to just go fuck myself for sure. Justin is one of the girls.
Did you ever get into any Housewives or are you strictly just Summer Housewives?
I know. I do. How are you feeling about her and Mo? Do you want them to get back together?
No. She's like, I haven't heard. What is that on?
No offense. It is. I think it's a little produced. I think these girls know what they're doing. I think they know how to get a second season. They want to be famous. I don't care. They want to be famous. It's awesome.
Okay.
Okay. So you're excited for the second season?
Why do you think it's so good?
Either way.
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Is he wearing a Van Cleef? He needs his Rolex to tell the time. And his Van Cleef, of course.
Is that a Zamboni?
We're only at 8.20 a.m.
Period. What was he even talking about?
It felt like he had Butler.
I feel like that was his girlfriend that he does not share on social media. Yes. Oh. And he's like, I need your nails to hand me this bowl. But we do not need your face.
What?
Really? Like people that know him or they're just like guessing?
A G-Wagon's gotta be sitting at 6'. 6' flat.
I mean, the man is a man. That body.
Anyways, I'm obsessed. But also him being 5'7 is definitely... There's no fucking way.
oh he does lifestyle coaching that's kind of on point for him i guess yeah that's it that's that tracks yeah that was the that was the that is a lifestyle and that is a lifestyle it's like he was telling the little the the younger kids who came up to him like man just like believe in your dreams yeah like that was his like yeah we got to get 10 000 more whatever did you hear on bachelor when grant was like my dad gave me some really good advice he told me to follow my heart you're like oh
Oh. That's what he gave you? Period. Okay. And he said, and that's what I'm going to do. Oh. Thank God your dad told you that. Well, thank God you're going with your heart.
Maybe. Also, maybe not. Yeah. Agree to disagree.
What else do we have, guys?
You don't watch Salt Lake?
My God, if you're going to watch any... Let's kill her. If you're going to watch Housewives, you have to do Salt Lake City. Really? It's the best. Okay. Yeah. Way better than Beverly Hills. Well, this season. Okay. Beverly Hills. But she's, wow, she's DJing now. Oh, she's a DJ. She turned in the bath bombs for DJ, for her DJ equipment. She's like, you know what? Fuck this.
And thank God he is.
I don't think I could support it.
No. I couldn't support you. I wouldn't support you. Yeah. I think I would. What did Lindsay Hubbard say last season when Carl was like, I think I want to do a soft bar, a non-alcoholic bar. Yeah, I'm going to have to shut that one down. It's like, you mean like, that's just crazy.
I would struggle. I honestly could see doing that. You would be a great like mentor though. So like, I don't even think it's bad.
I think, no, I think it's more so like if you were like, I want to pursue singing, I would.
But again, if all of this went away and he had to find something... I had to find something. I think you would go back to school and you'd become a therapist. Yeah, but I'm asking... That's the actual thing you would do. And I think I would struggle if you were like, I want to be a DJ. I think I'm going to be a singer. And...
Oh, no.
Oh, no. Yeah, I could not. If you start posting videos like that. He's getting really good.
For what? Instagram.
He wouldn't post me, but I had to record him spinning on his rollers.
Like the sex was that good that I was like, I can look past it.
So this has been multiple times.
Look at it. I recorded that, Victoria. We went roller skating for our Christmas party.
I'm crying behind the camera. And I'm questioning all of my choices. I just want to know why you're so good at it.
So they just put you on roller skate lessons? And he would be like, I need you to walk around me. He was directing me. It's a big fat ick. Yeah. And thank God, nowadays, if he's like, well, yeah, I'm like, I can't.
They're like, who would want to do this? And I was literally just by myself dancing.
I did fight for us after that.
And I did. I think it was one of those things where it's like you just kind of block it out, you know? Like trauma. It was trauma. And I lived through it and then I blocked it out and I said, I will never think about that again. Ever. Ever. And I didn't. And she didn't until right now. And then you made me shave your head to do that bit on Instagram, the talking with you during COVID. Yeah.
And I like loved your hair so much. And you're like, I think I want to shave it. And I was like, yeah, great idea. You told me it was hot.
Back and forth.
Did people think in that episode what you thought, Sierra, whenever we were talking about that?
Have you ever watched it back and been like, I don't know who that bitch is? Yeah.
Thank you. I didn't realize, but when we were talking to Ari Shaffer about... Sex? Oh, anal? Anal sex. And I said, I thought you lost your anal virginity to me. Sierra thought I was pegging you. I was like...
oh my god it came out and I was like oh my god no people think you're real kinky wow wow didn't you lose your anal virginity to me I wonder if Ari thought that as well and he was just like so uncomfortable he's like cool man he's like sick that's why he said we were his favorite married couple that makes sense wowie wow wow oh
Yes.
I literally have left the building. He has locked me out of this conversation. This is about going deeper as Nick.
Are we dating apps these days? Or are we staying off? It's mutual friends only who are coordinating this.
I hope he, please tell me he's in his 40s. He is not. But I have to.
He may or may not be in the athletics department. Wait, so how are you meeting people these days? It's mutual friends, being like, I know somebody. Mutual friends, yeah.
Did the conversation flow or was it a little awkward?
He was like, I see Alabama license plate.
Okay, cute.
Yeah.
When you hit it out of the bounds. Yeah.
Thank you.
I think it would have pulled older fans back into it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
She's not going to do it. She's not going to do it. We have to cancel. The whole season's canceled. Everything's done. We don't have Victoria. We have nothing. Yes.
A pop-up studio, yes. Some would say like a coffee shop on wheels. A food truck.
But can you want to do this?
Also thoughts and prayers for Juliana and Grant as they do watch back everything that Grant said to Latia. Because I thought she was very like her way of being like, you're going to have to have some tough conversations with the things that you said to me. Yeah.
Well, I don't think the past couple have been very good. Well, and also... Well, of course.
It's only in LA.
Yes, it's a grocery store. They have like a hot bar where you could like get lunch. They've got like all kinds of foods. They have a smoothie bar. A lot of celebrities do like smoothie collabs with Air One.
Like I've seen a lot of influencers be like Thanksgiving and it'll be just a bunch of like air one hot bar food.
No, it's crazy.
So then why are we stealing them from Japan? The only time I'm buying a $20 one strawberry is if I am in Japan. The fact that we are shipping them here, selling them at Air One, it kind of loses the charm.
They had a... cluster of ice cubes for $18. The balls, right?
Literally frozen water was $18. That's the craziest thing.
I'm the fourth in line. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy.
Yeah. You know what? I wonder if, speaking of social experiments, so there's this influencer podcaster. Her name's Avery Woods, and she's been, like, under fire recently because she did a whole episode saying some, like, controversial things. She, like, said something about, like,
jesus christ like doing stuff to women to get into heaven or something i don't know it was very crazy she also said that like she had c-sections so therefore her vagina is like pristine so basically like shaming all women who have ever had a vaginal birth which is crazy because she is like a mommy vlogger so that's like pretty much her entire audience of women i mean assuming she was telling a joke that didn't land or was she being serious
I mean, it wasn't in joke form. I think it was her being like, well, I had a C-section, so I'm pristine down there.
That was the way she delivered it.
Yeah, it's like, what are you saying about my vagina? And like, how do you know what my vagina looks like? You know? I don't know. So it was a little, it's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, as it should have. And she's now come out and given an apology and has said that the entire episode was scripted.
It's like, I don't, I just feel like that's how can, I mean, I guess podcasts are scripted. I just can't, in my mind, I like cannot imagine us like sitting down on like a Tuesday afternoon and writing Wednesday's episode and like writing in being like, I had a C-section. So my vagina is pristine. Okay. And then I will say this, like, that's what I'm saying.
Not to my knowledge. It was just her crying, being like, I'm sorry, the producers. It was a scripted episode. Oh, my God. Mic drop.
But she is on Will's network, and people said that Alex and Sophia of Call Her Daddy used to script all their... They've admitted to being like, yeah, we used to script some episodes.
Oh, my God.
I think it's just like obviously very telling when like you're in, I mean, she's just like coming for her whole audience. It's like. Religion, vaginas. Yeah, it's like you're a mommy blogger and to then like, or mommy, is that what they're called nowadays? Mommy influencer? Mommy blogger? I don't know.
Which I can totally see the frustration with comedians, but I don't understand how any of that was funny.
I love Emma. I wish I would have been at the wedding. It's the flight to New York that I just cannot do. And you know what's fucked up about it? Is that when I'm with Nick, he puts us in row 50. When he's by himself, he's like, oh, let me upgrade to premium select plus comfort plus. But when he's with me, he's like, we'll sit by the bathrooms.
The Internet, it's the same thing that I've said before about like the Internet doesn't care about the truth. Like they only care about the fun, like crazy narrative that whatever person is spinning. They don't ever care about the truth. So, yeah, it's like to like correct someone or to apologize. It's never going to land and it's never going to go as viral as the initial story did.
And it's people are never going to forgive you or give a fuck.
What were we talking about before we started about someone? Sienna. Sienna. So on Southern Charm, obviously, we have Sienna and Shep, a very uncomfortable relationship to watch. It's really great.
It's very uncomfortable that we can call it uncomfortable.
Situation.
relationship uh but it's like his what we thought like his girlfriend before they ended up in the bahamas and now we see that it is very clearly one-sided but she has now taken to social media of course she's gone to tiktok and been like hey everyone do y'all care like i'll do a series on like my time on the show and what it was supposed to be and everyone was like oh yeah sure like give us the tea she was like okay i'll do a live a tiktok live
And then she posted another one being like, so no one wanted me to do a TikTok live. So I guess I'll just do like a couple series starting with how she met Shep, all of that.
These are TikToks. Yeah. And she said a whole lot of nothing for seven, six, seven parts.
She said that she met Shep on Raya, which we knew. She said that she also met Whitney on Raya, which we also knew. She did show a screenshot of her and Whitney's conversation on, she goes, I won't say the platform of which I took this screenshot because you can't take screenshots on Raya. So she was like, I won't say the name.
She shows, it's another, she's using her phone on another phone to show the proof. It was very all, I'm sure she's going to get hicked off Raya after this. So she said that basically all Whitney ever said to her was like, how are you doing? And she said, I'm good. How are you? And he never responded.
Yeah. Yeah. She said that he looked very different in person than he did on his Riot profile.
If he used a picture from 10 years ago and he's aged faster. Yeah.
He sent me a selfie on the plane. I'm like, I noticed that there's an emblem on that seat right there. And that's not on row 50. I would know.
If it's not what you look like currently today.
Are you the same person you were 10 years ago? If you post a picture without a beard and then someone sees you with a beard and they're like, oh, my God, that's literally not the same person.
It's very like it's definition. It has to be Webster's Dictionary and Nick's brain.
I usually am very strict on country accents, southern accents, but honestly, his was very good.
Some of the ones in Landman are not very good.
He was in Southern Charm.
I don't give a fuck.
that's an amazing actor that you're able to like switch your accents like that. I mean, like I was just saying, there's in Landman, it's kind of hard to listen to. And maybe like Texan accents are different than like Alabama, Georgia accents. I don't know. I mean, obviously that's what I'm used to, but it's, that's hard to listen to.
And like, and, and, and these people on White Lotus, this family, even the mom, they all crushed that, that Southern accent.
I birthed his child. I carried his child and then I birthed her. You think that like I just like.
Patrick Fortunator crushes. It's honestly, yeah, it's very well casted. Yeah. It's really good.
Do you think Matt James saw it? You think he's off the grid?
But he's not off the grid enough to not post.
I don't know. I mean, Ariana Maddox got the Duracell and the battery and trash bags or something.
Paige is always going to be booked and busy. That will never change in Paige's life, no matter what happens. She will always be booked and busy. But I don't know if he will.
I mean, Rachel's she did a ad with Brawny, the like paper towel brand says she's saying she's like cooking from home now because she doesn't have to pick out the perfect dinner spot anymore because obviously they were like foodie influencers and we're going to all these restaurants together. And she has someone who can she can always depend on when life gets messy.
And then she introduces like Brawny mascot. It was a really great, really great.
Did they ever, did they have any like, like obviously they had like going out. Ariana and Tom Sandoval had, she was like, I picked up all the fucking groceries and batteries for you. Like that worked for her.
Sorry. You know it's a good complaint, but go ahead.
Honeycombs. Like now I'm no longer sharing my bees. I can just, you know.
With Peyton Manning. Yeah. There you go. Pretty good. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. No.
Everyone will be fine, yeah.
It's really exciting. I saw their little bit at, what was the other show?
SAG Awards last night, where obviously we have Kristen Bell, who is voice of Gossip Girl, and then obviously Leighton Meester, who plays Blair Waldorf.
Yeah.
Last night at the SAG Awards, they did a bit. They did a bit. And I mean, it was honestly like so cute to see them back.
To see like that duo. So I'm really excited to have them. And obviously to have Jackie Tone back on our television will be very nice.
They're doing like table reads and stuff now. I'm sure it'll be.
She really did.
A whole photo shoot.
You know what that reminds me of? What? Monica Garcia, when she did her burn book photo shoot or whatever that was. And Monica did it first. And she did her, yeah. I'm here for it. Do you think they actually put words all in that stuff?
By all means, celebrate it if you're happy about it. I guess. You see that Corey Beerman and... Kim Sulsak? Yes, they are divorced again.
When does the new season start? March 9th. We'll be covering that. I just got shown, I just got fed a clip from Real Housewives of Atlanta and it's when Phaedra was pregnant. Oh, and it's Sheree. And they were all like, when are you due? And she was like, Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
Yeah.
Because she's never used my SkyMiles number to book our tickets. So I don't get any points.
Thank you. Thank you.
Sometimes gives you like access to lounges.
He won't let me go in the lounges either because they charge him $50 to let me go in. So he doesn't. If you got her sky points up.
No, no, no. He made me get a turkey sub from Jersey Mike's at 7 a.m. Yeah. Would you rather fight for your life in the line of Panda Express? No, I fought for my life in the bathroom later on that day. Exactly.
Did this get brought up at reunion?
I was going to say, because this would be a huge issue for me. I'm just like, bro, you like I stood by your side through all this and you can't be like, hey, babe, maybe don't call her that. I don't know.
You could have done fucking something. More than nothing. Yeah. How are you feeling about Sienna these days?
Is Shep okay?
She's a fan of the show.
She wants, right? She wants to be on the show.
And we heard several FaceTimes of her being like, when are you coming to the Bahamas? Are you going to come to the Bahamas? And he was like, yeah, I got to figure out how to get out there. She was inviting them.
And she is the first person to click on Bravo when Southern Charm starts airing.
Did you see this 27-part series she did on TikTok?
Honestly.
Honestly, everyone in the comments is like seven parts for what? Like you've said literally nothing. So it's, there's really not much there.
Are you referring to him going on like cable?
Oh my God. Yes. That's another thing. So he's gone. He's gone in New York. I'm home alone with our one-year-old who is in all that toddler stage. She is mischievous and she is naughty and she is very fun, but she's a lot. Yeah. And Nick's just dilly dallying in New York City, like getting coffee here, getting lunch here, shopping here. And like, I'm home fighting for my life. And I text him.
Tell her we miss her. Are you a fan of White Lotus?
Did you hear that the creator kind of told to watch Southern Charm?
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This obviously isn't Paige and Craig, but Sierra could have never been more relatable this episode.
No, no, no. Her reading him to filth and then being like, I kind of want to make out with him. Yeah.
She's like, is this toxic of me to like actually want to like go make out right now?
No, it was definitely really fucking mean.
Yeah.
She definitely does still care. Like, obviously she like, I think she's allowed to be mean. She showed some emotion in her life.
She showed emotion in her ITM. She got upset. And like, so she,
clearly does still care I think it comes from and she like said this of like they were such good like good friends before like it started off in such a friendship and like she is just like let down by I guess but like she has every right to be hurt and it's you know it didn't work out I really feel for that but like I'm I'm I'm a hard time understanding how she can come for him at the reunion like she did last season and
They went and had dinner. They obviously got on good terms. No one was at that dinner but the two of them. But they both left feeling good.
He did.
I'm sure that if they would have had that dinner, he would have left it at that dinner, and would have not done a New York Times article or whatever, rubbed her so wrong.
No, sorry. Hubby Hart has his notification silenced. I'm like, the fuck? Notify anyway. Notify. Then I go to call him immediately to voicemail. I'm like, I have to call you twice and notify my text messages when I'm home alone with your baby is crazy.
If I were getting murdered, I'd be like, hold on one second. I have to call him one more time because it's on Do Not Disturb. And that's bizarre. Nick, your phone has been on Do Not Disturb for months. If not a year. You just did.
Turned it off. Do you have a favorites list? Do you have a favorites list?
Do you add contacts to your favorites? And ask who's on it. Not his wife. Well, that's what I was going to say.
In Scotland, obviously, there was another kind of big blowout at the group date with Carolina not really involving herself. And then, of course, Grant pulled her and it caused a big fight with Dina and Serafina. And I think you kind of even got involved at the end of it. Like, do you... A little bit. I don't remember that. A little bit.
Do you think that the whole kind of fight was like Dina said that because Grant pulled her, she should have said like, no, like, let's cut our time short because there's so many other women here. Like, we shouldn't talk this long. Do you stand by that? She should have done that. Or are you like, listen, he pulled her have all the time that you want.
It's like his parents and all of his buddies. Nowhere is his wife. Red flag.
So it's like, you don't think you would have been like, yes, Grant, let's talk for as long as possible. Like I'm here to like marry you if,
get to skip the do not disturb or like if you call them their calls will go through on your favorites list you can also call twice and it goes through the do not disturb right yes i had to call twice every time i wanted to reach him which felt insane since i got a scolding and then he texted me then then He felt the need to be like, can you have lunch ready by time I get home from the airport?
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Honestly, Alex, thank you for your service.
I think that Latia and Juliana are his final two. I think Latia wins. I think Juliana wins.
Dina?
I'm like, oh no. I mean, then I'm like, well, we have like the mobile dog groomers coming to like groom the dogs out front. I'm like, I can't leave the house. And then I'm like, can you pick up? And then he goes, oh, so now I have errands. Like I asked for lunch to be ready, but I have errands instead. And I said, don't you fucking dare. I'm not the one. Insane for you to complain.
Yeah. You want to be like, no, Grant, I don't want to talk to you. All the other girls are here. Let's not talk. Like, that's crazy that they want her to do that. Agreed on that. And all of them being like, well, I would. It's like, no, you wouldn't.
Oh, yeah.
is very insufferable to be clear like that's she is doing the most but like the sitting at the table eating alone pouting like it's definitely she's definitely putting on the damsel in distress act but I do think the fact that these women expected her to turn down a conversation or cut a conversation short. When Grant did pull her, it's like ridiculous.
That's crazy.
having a fun time alone and then she just kept being like well how's your night how's your since you're not asking us how our night is how's your night it's like well y'all aren't fucking friends with me i don't care what your night is yeah i didn't really understand that line of questioning how's your night so how was your night it's like how was your chat with grant so how and she's like it's good as it could have been and they're like what the fuck good as it could have been it's like well they are attacking when we're asking her as if like she was talking shit on them and was she not she wasn't she was heavily implying that i don't feel supported and welcomed here um
And he said, on my way.
They're definitely being mean girls.
Right, so then why wouldn't Carolina just continue to piss them off?
Because she's not going to become friends with them. So it's like, why would I respect you now? You don't fucking respect me. Damage is done.
Yeah.
Those girls are not best friends.
Not really. Okay.
She stuck up for her one time and was like, I see my younger self in you or whatever. Like, definitely.
I will say it was pretty fucked up of Grant to give Carolina so much security sitting on that rock being like, I'm locked in. She gave so many times where she's like, I don't think it's me.
I don't think it's me. I think I should go home. And he's like, listen, I'm locked in. Are you locked in?
then sends her home the next night huh that's crazy but it's giving parisa like here i thought about you i got you way way more to a higher extent for sure but i'm just saying that i'm like the bait and switch is crazy like okay like you're secure you're special and then you're going home tonight so much more respectful if in that moment where she's like i don't think it's me i think i should go home where he would have been like listen like
I agree. Maybe there has been, you know, and she could have been like, OK, I'm going to go. But instead, he's like convinces her to stay just to send her home himself.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Yep. The amount of times that Nick has complained about something that I've put in his suitcase because I'll pack the family's luggage. She packs her suitcase for you?
And he'll be like, why did you pack me this? What the hell? You only packed me t-shirts and shorts? You know I hate shorts.
Thank you.
,,,,,,,
Was it our honeymoon?
And she looks at him and she goes after she's like, I'd love to talk to your friends about this. Like, I'd love to get on the same page. I'd love to. And he's like, yeah, you know, like maybe. And then he's like, maybe we shouldn't. And then she's like, well, can you please like stay here tonight? I feel really disconnected from you. And he's like, no, I'm going to go.
He doesn't give a fuck about her. He obviously clearly is texting his friends being like, dude, just say anything so I can get out of this relationship. He's not into it. He's trying to get out of the relationship and he's doing it by humiliating her on national television.
Why wouldn't he believe her?
Maybe he's her fiance.
Exactly. So exactly. You wouldn't believe your fiance who was the only person in the relationship that you're talking about. You're going to believe your friends who are like four steps away from that relationship.
Nick, what do you mean? To men, it is absolutely fucking nothing. Men can go around slinging dick and not give a flying fuck.
To her, it was just sex. She clearly, she said that she's like black and white. She's like, listen, it was just sex. Imagine if like me and you in the beginning where we start dating and then like your friends are like, yeah, dude, like she, I'm friends with like some guy that she like used to hook up with and like she was hooking up with him like right before y'all started dating.
And you were like, hey, I have a question about this. And I answered it. And then you're like, I just don't believe you. Like, that's crazy.
I just think it's insane that he thinks he's in a position to judge her for being a single woman.
Before you go on this show, you're single. You can do whatever the hell you want. It's like people on Bachelor. Like before you before you start filming, you are single. You can do whatever you want. Like you can fuck around with 20 people. You can fuck around with none. But like she's single.
Sorry, I didn't know he wanted all these jeans in Puerto Rico. Sorry.
And the fact that he's being like, you shouldn't have been having sex with someone before you came here is crazy. Yeah.
And it's clear that he will say anything to just, like, rattle someone's cage. It's clear he doesn't want Lauren and this guy to get married. It's clear he doesn't want success for Lauren. So he's like, oh, yeah, dude, like, yeah, we were, like, fucking, like, the night before she left, dude. Is he saying that? Yeah, to his friends, allegedly. But we haven't talked to him.
We haven't talked to the friends.
I think if it was a if Lauren was like, listen, yeah, I was in like a full on relationship. We've been dating for six months and I like actually broke up with him to come on the show issue. Big red flag issue there. She's like, yeah, I was like having sex with someone like, yeah.
But you can't say you know what sex means to her.
He's the one who wanted to fuck her the first night in the vacations. It doesn't mean shit to him.
He's asking everyone, are you fucking her?
To some people, it's nothing. We have three people in this scenario. We have Lauren. We have this guy that she was fucking. And we have Dave. And to all three of them, clearly sex is meaningless. Dave wanted to fuck the first night he met her. So clearly it was like meaningless to all three of them.
I love you.
I think if she asked him when was the last time that you shared any moment with any other woman.
It would be probably the day before I left for the show. I don't think it would be months or years prior to him going. I don't think his life stopped when he got the opportunity to maybe potentially go on Love is Wine.
They were absolutely beautiful. He did send me some flowers and said, miss you. You love flowers? I do love flowers. Well, Nick is really, he's really good about flowers. And I know it's because he has the florist on speed dial and he'll just, the florist will text him being like, hey, buddy, it's St. Patrick's Day. You want to send some flowers? And Nick's like, yeah, sure. Happy St. Patty's Day.
I don't think Lauren has shown us any inkling that she hasn't taken this seriously.
The fact that she has that app tells me more than I need to know. Literally.
Or they just were like, yeah, he just was like, yeah.
Typical, like, hey.
She's like, now I've had more time to look. And I was able to.
It was actually TikTok. Does he not look kind of like Jojo Siwa?
Yeah. Yeah. He does. Yeah.
He does. Everyone's putting all these men in the same thing and they're being like, this is the exact same man. Like it's Amazon Prime. It's like Sheen. It's two day delivery. Yeah.
It's weird to have an issue with that when you literally have just met them.
Love, Nick. Do they really remind you?
He did on Valentine's Day because I accidentally read the text.
The communal sock.
I'm going to be so honest with y'all. I really do skip through Monica and Joey because I just can't.
I didn't see the way he folds T-shirts and that was. Yeah, it's like you're putting too much fucking effort into it.
I don't think he's gotten over it whatsoever. The way he was folding those T-shirts was very much.
I did also see the part where he was very much she was like they're worried that like you're not good enough for me and he was like do they think anyone is ever gonna be good enough for you and she was like no her sister her sister like that was awful it was real projection city yeah oh and she was like
I have... But also, I have so... Now, because he is so gracious with his flowers, I have nowhere to put these vases. And I'm like, I can't just throw these away. These are such nice. So there's...
Percentage of Italian men?
Does not hit 6'5". What did you all think of the Sarah and Ben? There's some girl who posted a TikTok crying and she apparently was with you.
Weird that he saw some girl that apparently used to be in involvement with Ben She posted a TikTok, I guess, whenever they announced that the Minneapolis is filming.
Probably. She was like crying and being like, these men, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know exactly what she said. She didn't show the video.
Exactly. I don't know. As Sarah said, like there's definitely going to be more that comes out and she was like, you better tell me everything right now because if more comes out, like I will not trust you. Yeah. And it looked like he had the fear of God in his eyes and he was like,
But like, fuck, you know, like, yeah, on Ben's behalf, like it was four years ago. Like, I don't remember stuff that has happened four years ago. Like, especially if to him it was, like, such a blip of a relationship. Clearly to her, it was more if she's saying that they were full on dating or whatever.
I do think it's weird that he was already aware of this TikTok video and didn't bring it up to Sarah. Like, she had to find it on her own. And that he, yeah, he went on a blocking spree and, like, did not bring it up to his fiance. When, like, hey, so there's a TikTok out there. Like, this girl I was with four years ago. She's a little upset.
No, they were out. He had his phone enough to go and block her.
I do think it's weird that these people are trying to make such big deals out of what these people were doing before going on the show.
And I think you're seeing... Like, I don't care that Ben was in a relationship four years ago and ghosted the girl. I don't give a fuck.
I don't care that Lauren was fucking a guy before she went on the show. I don't care.
They didn't even have sex, he says.
Traitors.
Yeah, I mean, the performance from Danielle when Carolyn got voted out was the most... I imagine they're going to be sad, you know?
I think the fact that they didn't air any of that is more telling. Like, why are they protecting Danielle in that sense? Like, why wouldn't air that? That's something that, like, I'm sure people would love to hear more.
Do you think before she recruited her, she went to Brittany and was like, hey.
So why wouldn't they air it?
Nobody.
Just to interrupt for a second, we do, like, whenever Nick and I were starting the wedding planning process, we were like, food has to be, like, we wanted food trucks, but we didn't want people to wait in line for the food trucks. We wanted it to be served hot. We wanted it to be this. And then we were like, we are doing way too much. No one, like, gives a fuck.
Her reaction at the chess thing when they were like, Dolores was like, oh, well, like you kept like Carolyn, you were saying, Tom, you were on it. And she was like, no, I didn't. I didn't say that. If she just would have been like, well, he was really pitching himself. I don't know. He really was convincing me. Like, it would have played so much better. But because she was like, huh? No, what? Me?
I didn't say that.
They're just going to, like, eat what they want.
How long did it take you to write that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're recording. Martin Cove, everybody.
Did you finally tell him how y'all knew each other after the game?
Smoking a cigar, reading a magazine.
Listen, I would like someone to replay the tape of me saying that it's going to be Letia and Juliana at the end.
You don't have to guess. Unless you know.
This one is definitely an 80s movie.
Harry Potter was good?
Chanel necklace. What does your gut tell you?
The freckles on your lips.
Really?
You know, we have a one-year-old little girl. Do you really?
No, I think it started in the 90s.
Like once a week? Why? Is that bad? Are we judging me? How often are you washing your sheets?
He doesn't wash his sheets.
Yes. You don't want to know.
Stop it.
I actually do have a comment on that because I did want to just like read an opening statement from his new lawsuit versus her lawsuit where me, I read the 179 pages and it was hard because it's like, I feel like I'm reading a novel. Like your lawyer is an author because- It's really hard to discern what's fact and what's not. So like an opening statement on her lawsuit.
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And I was like, this is for Colleen Hoover readers.
The figurative language in this lawsuit where I'm like, though, very eloquent. That is like an AP lit test. Thank you. That's why I was like, show me the facts.
I also do think that there is something to be concerned about in the sense to where you could admit that you've made mistakes in the past, but you're claiming as if being a healed person means that like you're incapable of making mistakes further.
Well, and also you can just do without having to broadcast it. Like if you are an ally, if you are a good person, if you are somebody that's dedicated to helping other people, you don't have to talk about it every single time.
I mean, the crying that I saw on social media, the confessions on TikTok, all of these creators started outing themselves within 24 hours of the app closing down. Yeah, so there was this trending sound that they were using. You've got fitness creators saying that they never did the workouts that they posted. You've got food creators saying,
Food creators being like, like there's one guy that like bakes things in his car or something because he lives in Arizona. And it's like, he's like, not all of the baking, like the success of the baking videos turned out. So it's like all of these people are starting to come forward, outing themselves, thinking that the app is going to be completely gone, forgetting the fact.
Like everything until I'm like, I thought about trying it. I didn't do it because I was like, what a waste of makeup. But like things that people actually went home after watching these people's videos and did come to find out, all fake, all for content creation.
Well, that's the problem. And that's the like kind of the best part of it all is it kind of like outed a lot of content creators for being fake. But it's like they forgot the fact that it's like if TikTok is gone, you're going to have to go to a different platform. And now nobody trusts you.
Didn't see that one coming. Did not see that coming.
You just look like you're not in a rush. I'm not. Never in my life have I been in a rush. Poki, is that a Midwest thing? 100% because I've never heard that in my entire life.
Are all of these fast and choices so that you can post thirst traps like Dylan Efron?
Yeah. Why are Shep and Sienna rumored to be broken up?
Required.
And then also realized he's got like packs and all of these things. But yeah, Craig had his phone in his pocket too. I don't know if y'all noticed that when he was like pulling out and I was like, oh my God, what a gentleman. Yeah.
I was like, just let people like ruminate on it for a second. Like you don't, we didn't need to know, like talk to Rachel and figure out what y'all are doing. I feel like it's kind of weird to like put something that's so definite where I'm like, y'all been together for so long. Like we, the public didn't need to know that. And now I just read your caption.
Like three hours after posting a cute reel of vacation.
If I have to watch one more scene of Austin crying over Craig, I'm gonna lose it.
They did a scene over coffee.
It was them having a fake conversation because you've got JT in his interviews being like, oh, I'm holding back and there's so much I want to say. And he's just like, hey, buddy. Are we going to be friends? Can we be cool? It's because he's a puss. Exactly. But I'm just like, there was no point of us even watching that. Craig was like, all right, guess we're cool, man.
And JT's like, we're not cool, but we are cool. I don't know. The whole thing just makes zero sense.
And they all said it. Even then, I will say JT is not my favorite person on reality television at all. But I'm like, I will give him. I'm like, he's not the type of person. He's very clean cut in the way that he speaks that I'm like, it's giving like Southern gentlemen. I don't think he would use a term like that to call an older woman out of her name. I just really don't.
None of us know the answer to that. But I do know that the London trip, I think, happened a while ago. So that's why people were confused because they were spotted in Japan together within the last week or two.
Can I ask you, how long is the roundtable session? And then also, what did you say to defend yourself that we didn't get to see on television?
Really?
Okay. I was not expecting that.
And then what did you say to defend yourself?
I don't like seeing myself out of this conversation.
Congrats. But that at least is like, why do it publicly, you know? I just feel like there's just some things where I'm like, you could keep it simple with the congrats.
if you're a part of the conversation fine but I'm just saying I don't know their relationship but for ultimate violence purposes that if I ever saw my boyfriend commenting that on a girlfriend's breast augmentation post the way he would be skinned alive it's the two O's and the LMAO and the balloons that like
That's a competition. You're the best worst cook in America.
Oh, wow. I'm going to need some time off.
Yeah.
I think it's pretty positive her schedule starts on Monday.
She's still in rehearsals right now, so maybe she's just off rehearsals.
We were rooting for you and we were all pissed when you got voted off. I was too. We were like, what the fuck?
So mad.
Take care. Thank you. Bye. Bye. So cool. Can you do a British accent?
Oh, my God. Take it back. I take it back.
Best franchise. Sorry. It's good. It is.
Tell us how you really feel. Words. Get into it.
We're thankful for that.
No, when she said, we're going to read the worst text message about another person at this table, I'm just audibly out loud being like, you're doing what? I was talking to the TV.
A little? It definitely was dirty. It was unnecessary. It was scrappy. But my question is, do you think that Whitney knew that Lisa was going to have to open up and like zoom in for every word that she wasn't going to see what the actual text message said before she read it out loud?
Brittany had to do that too she was just like and my and then she what she made out and my husband did what like it was just like every word for word that I was like oh my god if you would have zoomed out and just read it you would have known what was in there so I was at a party with Justin yeah
Whitney's just trying, like, I mean, also Whitney is playing very dirty, but she is trying to confess that like the terrible things that she said about you is about your marriage and spreading rumors. Exactly. That's the game.
Oh, she's already crying.
Awful. Like, honestly, I would have been crying too if I read that about myself.
Oh, I mean. What do you have to say?
Same. Maybe... Especially coming from Brittany.
You can search a name in your text and then every text that has that person's name comes up in every conversation.
And that's why Brady honestly is like, this is the meanest thing I've said about you.
Yeah. Guarantee there's some text messages in Britney's phone about Bronwyn.
It's like you reach out for confirmation. You got it. And now you're saying that his word is more than mine.
Nick's like, balloons. Balloon emojis. Baby bottles.
Mommy mokers? Also, Meredith at the top of the episode with the Louis Vuitton eye mask on. She was such a mood.
And I didn't get it. I'm sorry. That was the, I think, I feel like I'm always on it and I just did not get it. I was like, oh my God, Whitney left her tag on.
Yeah.
Did they not?
Yeah. Usually because they're part of the storyline, too.
Well, maybe at the reunion. Who knows? Yeah.
Yeah.
The women of God are the meanest fucking bitches in my DMs. I agree.
She's like, I'm really excited to open up, really talk about just like stuff I've been through. He's like, so our date today, you won't be speaking.
Did your boots stop working? Did your truck break down?
Well, we're just saying we are Team Latia, but we do know that he will be picking someone else.
I just... No, happy that they're happy.
Wait, does anyone else remember when he was here and he was talking about where Nick was like, if listen, like, that'll be an amazing finale. Like, you're really torn between two women. And he was like, I wasn't really that torn. Like, I just I knew I was going to pick. I just didn't want to like, you know, it's like hurting someone's feelings.
Well, that was performing because that preview of the finale, this man is like, how much more time do I have? I have to go right now. I'm not ready. I'm not ready.
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Well, what seasons has Claire run?
Have you seen the drama that your ex-co-star's been in with her hairstylist? Oh, yes, I have. In fact, I kind of got into it a little bit.
He did. He definitely did take his time.
Sure. So Dorit, Tracy Tudor went on Jeff Lewis and kind of was like, she doesn't pay her bills. Based on my knowledge, there are several people that haven't been paid by her, including my stylist, who I think just tallied up with finally and her makeup artist. So she's like throwing shade things. She doesn't pay her bills, whatever. So then Dorit goes and watch what happens live.
Andy asks her about it. Dorit squashes it. She's like, there's nothing to it. It's hysterical. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Like wholeheartedly, there's a whole lot of shit that's said, I don't know, it came out of left field. So then her hairstylist goes and makes this nine minute long video.
Takes very long to get to the point of like, yeah, by the way, like it was paid for and it really wasn't that big of a deal. Oh my God. Yeah.
It was like Lakers game doing guys. I saw that. Lakers game.
It's like the bodega two blocks down. Yeah, but that's why her bill's so high.
Right. Authorization.
She's a co-worker like these girls like so messy. I don't give a gas lighter. Why are you such a gas lighter?
Nick has even been openly about how much he's attracted to her. Oh, wow. That would bring me in.
Alex is the king of Bravo.
It's cool. That was my first time meeting him. Raw Housewives of Atlanta is back. It is. Better than ever. It is. Whoa, it's good. I mean.
I know, that's kind of cool, right?
It doesn't seem like they're very respected if all these people are like, hey, toxic work environment.
Who are you closest with?
I'm already having a hard day. I was going to ask, where are you on the Dennis of it all? Are you on Portia's or Drew's side?
You can't. I agree, too. That's rough. And especially Drew calling him her angel from heaven, her lord.
So I'm expecting a little smoke bomb from Drew today because I think even though she like texted you personally, she texted and I just called her.
You really think after squashing it privately, she's going to take it publicly to Instagram and like. Oh, absolutely. This is Atlanta, baby.
She was on her phone scrolling.
Oh, okay.
Oh, Lisa Barlow.
Took it out of her Instagram bio. It was like before.
Yeah, so like first it was like they were all filming without Lisa and Meredith. And it was like, ooh, are they not on this season? Then she removes Salt Lake City from her Instagram bio. And then we see her and Meredith filming. So wasn't it about money? It was a contract negotiation.
It's so dramatic. Is that what Atlanta just say what they need to say and not be so... I don't think it would ever do that.
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You're not wearing green. This is super awkward. Well, Nick, because I asked Nick, should I wear green? And he said, well, this comes out tomorrow, so it won't be St. Patrick's Day. Well, it doesn't matter. So he was preying on my downfall.
And they're like, she's the right person for us.
Yes.
Oh my God.
Yes, of course. I remember the transition from roommate to no roommate and it was very much like, Oh,
No.
No. Yeah. Can I? No. No. You weren't sure that these were eggs?
No. No. I definitely want to be that person. Yeah. I do. I want to be that organized, but I don't know if I have it in me. I know that he absolutely will not keep it up. So it's like, do I want to every single day?
Well, what I'm just saying, like, I would love to be that person, but I feel like you won't, you won't allow me.
Not necessarily label it, but it's like everything's in like a plastic container.
It's like, yeah, honestly. Good job, doctor.
We're planning, it is the weekend of our anniversary of our wedding, so we're like, Is our anniversary on a Sunday? It is on the Sunday, yeah.
Of Stagecoach, so we're trying to. Come on Saturday, that's perfect. I know, I know. We usually only do Friday and Saturday because Sunday's like, we gotta get back to the real world. Sunday's, everyone's so hungover, it's not even like a day.
Yeah.
I mean, we watched. Yeah. I mean, it was Coachella, but Lana Del Rey, she's playing stagecoach this year, and she came in on the backs of motorcycles and had a whole... Iconic. Iconic.
Yeah.
Absolutely. We love that. Yeah. Okay. What was the day like when you realized, holy fuck, Austin has taken over and it's everywhere?
You made up the line dance on your own? Mm-hmm. Okay.
We interviewed Alessia Cara and she's at Def Jam. Yeah.
Yeah. Did you, so you got like your pick of the litter. You chose who you wanted to choose. Warner Records. I love them.
Maybe that's what you're thinking of. That's probably what you're thinking of. No, they're different. I see them both.
Smart. Okay. That was a Warner move? That was a smart Warner move. And thank God they did, because... Woo! Okay. Anyways. So we'll be moving on currently from that. How did the Kane Brown of it all start?
And I'm like, hell yeah. It's now opening. I mean, for someone who is, like, you're into, like, going all out and being so creative, his, like, sets, the way he performs is so creative. I saw him at Stagecoach, wait, last year or two years ago? I can't remember what it was. But I was just, like, blown away. It was so good. It's wild. We went to his show. Was that here? Yeah, that was here.
And interviewed him beforehand. But, like, he's up on lifts. He's, like, all over the place. It's really cool.
Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Yes. How? I mean, first of all, just a huge moment in general to be able to perform the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. And the lipstick on top of that. Well, yeah.
Wait, wait, go down.
No.
Did you feel any, like, crazy people comment that?
We all have a little bit. Absolutely. How is your love life these days?
It's more war.
Oh, that's in a book that's awful that I'm really just trying to get through. What book is it? The Boyfriend by Frida McKenna. Whatever. Terrible. Terrible book. But I like, I know it's like a psychological thriller. I think everyone knows it's Frida. Frida even knows that it's not her best. Okay. Okay. So I'm really just trying to get through it because I did pay $12.99 for it on my Kindle. Oh.
Yeah. So I'm really just trying to get through it currently in this moment.
I was very much into like erotic thrillers for a moment. And then I did very much, my clit didn't need a break.
I'll send you the links. I'll send you the links. They got me through some tough times. Okay. Nick was snoring beside me. What was I doing?
Sorry, yeah. I'm educated in art.
Who, who plays, um, no, the other guy. Rick. Anyways, Rick's just sitting there and he's like, uh-huh, yeah. Can you imagine being the writer of that monologue?
Honestly, you want to go further than what you think we want. We want you to take it to another level.
Nobody.
She's like my least favorite character.
Did you see the twist coming of the friend fucking the guy who works? No, I didn't actually. You didn't? But I'm kind of glad it happened. It's like, you know, the three girls, they hate each other so much. Yes. And so like the fact that the entire time she's been like pushing Lori to have sex with this guy and then she does it is like so fucked.
Nick was asking me if, like, it's with the scene of them, like, dancing and then the three women who were, like, staring at him and she was, like, dancing harder. He was like, does that really happen? Like, women who, like, want your man and you kind of like show them that you can't have them.
You think?
Saxon, yeah. Oh, oh yeah. And he's going to be like, oh my God. And I just kissed my brother and I kind of liked it.
He's probably going to kill himself, honestly.
No, I don't think he, I think he'd just be like, I'm like, I think he goes crazy. Who's going to die? What if he kills Chelsea? There was a lot of gunshots in like the first episode preview. Yeah. I don't know.
How was your best friend through it all? Was she like because I feel like she was watching it. She had to.
Your brother. My brother. Oh, I was like, wait, when did that happen? What did I miss? No, no, no. I can't imagine watching my brother on a dating show thinking people would actually like him. And then I am shocked. I'm also shocked that he's married. And he's been married for quite some time. Dang. None of my siblings are married yet.
What's crazy is that the person who chose him was his first ever girlfriend. Oh, really? Did he like circle back or was it like a consistent?
no it was like he like never really had a girlfriend like growing up he was just like never really that type of guy and then went into the military and like met a girl and then they started dating and then he got out of the military and then they got married wow I know what's up with you guys what have you guys been watching what should I watch you watch everything we watch everything I know because you guys like report on everything yeah I feel bad that I don't know more reality you need to watch Temptation Island really Temptation Island is bonkers I like tea I like like really juicy tea it's really crazy um there's threesomes oh
Love. And the girl, well, his girlfriend has to watch this happen on a screen. Wait, there's a girlfriend? They come as couples. Oh. No, it's crazy. And they have to see like, are you going to be tempted by all these other girls that you're going to be living with who are like the temptresses?
And it's like their job to get you to like break and fall in love with them and touch and break your physical boundaries, whatever the hell you may have. And then every like couple days they go and they like sit at this bonfire and watch a screen of like what their boyfriend is doing with these. Oh, my God. It's crazy.
And it was two women because they go on dates. They get to pick someone to go on a date with. And he did not choose either of those women to go on the date because he was like, then you form an emotional connection. And I was just trying to have a threesome. Whoa. So like everyone that's at the bottom are all the temptresses?
So the women get the men, the men get the women, and they're all trying to see who's going to break. Whoa. It's really wild. So if you have any free time, I would definitely suggest. Love. Yeah. I really like Too Hot to Handle too.
Yeah. They're all very attractive.
a nice tent with a bed in it and each of the villas. And it was like, if you go into this, it was like, no cameras are allowed in there. So if you go in, like you can do whatever you want to do, not on camera, but it lights up at the other house. So like the women will know that someone, one of their men took a girl in with no cameras.
Anyways, so she goes in and on their way and she's like, I really wish you would have carried me. And his response is, maybe next time. Huh?
It's just so sad. Like Alexa and Lena, they've been together for like almost four years. It's like, what are you doing? What?
We don't even know if it's going to air.
100 i just thought it was wild that he's singing like a i made a mistake with you to the song to the girl walking out going as she's like sitting next to him it's like was it a song that he wrote yes apparently that morning would be so bad no i cannot do that it was awful
Gotta go.
Yeah.
Yeah. What do you do in that situation? Not bubble butt. What? Bubble butt is from Spongebob.
Because everyone's like, and then people are like, you know what? Let's just say Slow. Yeah. There's a lot of towns that people can't pronounce. There was a town next to me where I grew up called Opelika and no one could fucking say Opelika. Am I offended?
Really? Like if you're offended that I cannot pronounce the name of your town and it has 92 letters in it, like I am sorry.
I'm sorry. She said, did your lungs give out? Were you listening whenever it was playing or were you just like guessing?
I heard what I wanted to hear. Well, did you see a little Southern charm? Madison LaCroix is like people are all up in arms because apparently her house was listed for sale and everyone's freaking the fuck out, which I think is the weirdest.
Right?
Yeah, she, someone, wait, she offered a cryptic comment or someone?
There's no way she is pregnant, moving, like taking her son who's, he's like, what, 10, 11, like out of school and moving to California. I mean, maybe, I don't know, but like definitely seems like she's like, my response to that would be like,
No, no, no. My response would be like the most random, I would say somewhere in Europe, like just a random place of like, mind your own business. Like I'm not, I don't know. Bulgaria. I'm moving to Bulgaria.
Why does he firefight out here?
Okay, well, what the fuck do I know?
It is interesting that that would be the way that she reveals that she's moving. It's just responding to a comment.
Did you see the five million hats under his coffee table? We're the same age.
It actually wasn't that bad. I remember the first time. Yeah. Did he have nightstands? Multiple pillows? He did. He had nightstands. He had two pillows. Yeah. A duvet? Or a blanket? He did have a duvet. Anything on his walls? Pictures of himself. Stop it. It was like mixed tiles. It was probably like a brand deal. It was a brand deal.
It wasn't just me. It wasn't a bunch of selfies. Your bachelor poster. It wasn't a bunch of selfies, but there was definitely a bunch of pictures of you and your friends and family.
Some like art from Bed Bath & Beyond. No art. No art. Yeah. He had a blue velvet couch. Oh, that's fancy. Sassy. Yeah. What else did you have?
I don't think I ever stepped foot in your guest bedroom, but I do remember it being just like full of crap.
His art room, yes.
Every time, this man is like, I need art room.
studio like at the lake or i need like i'm thinking of like putting an art i'm like you have not he set up an art studio in our current house five years ago when we moved in and he has not once stepped foot into his art studio i'm like and now he's like well we need to have one at like any possible house that we could ever live in in our future must have an art studio in case i decide to dabble thank you justin are you you can't rush the art we're playing we're playing for the future what do you what do you what's inside this art studio
But you haven't done anything since you were living in Venice?
But JT was definitely under... This episode? Yeah. Honestly, every episode of JT gets worse and worse and worse and worse.
Honestly, like, I... some black girl cute some cute black girl like I don't throwing in the word cute doesn't make it any better yeah you know and he's really like trying to make sure that like that is gonna make it better yeah and it doesn't it's insensitive regardless yeah and then him calling Vanita and like making himself the victim was weird the whole idea like forget about
And that's also not something someone would lie about. Like, yeah, I spent $5,000 on him. Like,
But also she does really like to like really throw it in. It's like the whole conversation with Austin of like. her being like, you're preaching to the choir. Like, yep. I, you know, I don't think you need to let, they very much were like bonding over their relationships being similar on their end and like kind of in front of Craig where it was like, Okay.
I also do think though people are,
scared if you live a fast-paced life to bring children into it because they're scared of like oh my gosh I'm gonna have to like sacrifice so much and it's like well on one end you do but also like a baby joins your life and it's it's if you want to it is very easy to like include babies they're adaptable they go with the flow you know like it's it's honestly not as hard as I think a lot of people make it out to be and it's like if
I think if if they wanted to make it work like they it wouldn't be that hard.
And like, I don't know, that's really the only, like, you just got to bring a lot more snacks and toys, you know? Yeah.
But also it very much did seem like Paige did not or was not willing to like make Craig a priority in her life. It seemed very much like her career was really the only thing, you know, because she even said like, well, once like we get married and like my mom, like, you know, that's like my mom.
Craig did say, I don't remember, because they all run together if it was in Summer House or Southern Charm, but he was like, I've never been in this submissive interrelationship before. Oh, yeah.
It was an interesting relationship dynamic.
clearly they didn't work out it's interesting to like watch the relationship kind of fall apart it's very much giving like in a completely different way but the like when we knew what happened with sandoval and raquel and like you knew what happened and then you watched the season and you just paid more attention to them and the background and you just saw it's just like all of it meant more because you knew like how everything ended up it's like you watch their relationship a little bit closer because you know they're not together and it's like do you see it
Like, could you imagine if like you and Connor are like, should we? I don't know, like maybe some like big life decision. I don't know. Should we buy a beach house? I don't know. Whatever. And is she helping? And you're no, but you're like, I can't. I need to like talk to like, I just like can't do this without like my grandma is like she has to like approve.
But if she was like, I don't think you should buy this beach house, but you and Connor have already gone through everything. You're financially stable. You can do it. Would you be like, we can't do it? My grandma said no.
Oh, for sure. Hear out. We love getting advice. Hear out.
But I think this is all coming from was Paige was like,
would you like she even like gave the example of like if there were two things you were choosing from and like you wanted to do one but your mom wanted you to do the other like would you do the other because your mom said so and Craig was like no I'm 37 years old like yeah absolutely not I'm doing what I want to do and then Paige saying her mom's never been wrong maybe but like that might be through like
I hear you. What did y'all think of the Danielle, like, interrogating Lindsay about living with Turner? I'm like, girl, didn't you leave the show?
And she also has a kid to worry about now.
Would you feel the same if Lindsay got pregnant, had the baby and she was like, well, now we have to get married six months in?
She just had to kick Carl out who blindsided her and with an engagement. She just moved the last box out of him.
I kept my apartment in Georgia to not add extra pressure onto our relationship because we were already living. No, but I moved across the country for you. I mean, that's pretty big commitment. Right.
Well, no, she is a CEO. So I feel like she does know how to make smart decisions. It was feeling just very not like girl's girl. It was like interrogating in front of everybody or like was weird energy.
No? No. That would just put me in my head. You would rather wait until after? Yeah.
She's into it.
But they've been doing this since they met each other. They've had this little bit. And so it's like Jesse's the one, if he does end up wanting to commit to Lexi, Then he should come to Sierra and be like, hey, love you. Like, still a homie, but, like, we got to draw the line with flirting.
And I had sex with everyone.
Well, when he was on the show, he said that. He was like, I literally was like, that changes everything. Like, I'm not having sex in fantasy suites.
Well, anyways, but... But wait, did you have sex with... No, wait, out of curiosity, because I'm curious if, like, because you knew you were going to pick Vanessa the whole time. So, like, if he knew he was going to pick Juliana the whole time, he's like, listen, like, I'm not having sex with anyone else but Juliana. Like, so did you have sex with Vanessa?
A hundred percent. I think that it's one thing to try to make excuses for somebody, but like a repeat offender.
James was best friends with her son for the longest time. I don't know how that stands.
She just posted a cryptic story and obviously insinuating to the idea that Tom has also cheated on her. I woke up this morning to a clip of Tom's life where he's just not saying a word.
And I'll watch that too. But he said she knows she messed up last night.
He also took the time to go through his Instagram and archive whatever photos front-facing of her in them.
Yeah, she's not found on the page until you scroll through photos.
I honestly didn't know that they hung out with other people, so.
I was under the impression that they were selling the house. I think Leigh could have some more insight since it's in her neighborhood. Yeah. Is there a for sale sign?
Is there a for sale sign in front of his house?
So maybe it did sell, but I know that she bought a house and that he was moving in with her was the last update that they gave us.
Also, Tom's kind of having a tough week. You're representing yourself in your legal case against Rachel. I forgot about that. You just got in a fight with the girlfriend that you live with, so you might be homeless.
It's like a bevy.
It's a lot of them. It's a cluster of large SUV-sized drones. SUV-sized?
No, it's okay. It's just that they've been cited hovering ominously over critical infrastructure and residential areas, power lines to reservoirs. And the Secretary of Homeland Security pretty much is saying that since they've allowed drones flying at night, that might be why an uptick in sightings. Huh?
And they still aren't giving us any clarity as to where they think they're coming from, why so many, why are they forming structures in the sky, but nope, nobody cares.
Worrying and stress causes cancer. So, I mean. So true.
You want to go out the end of the world with that too?
Let's all consider.
There's also like 25 different like diamond cuts. And there's about five that are prevalent and 15 undiscovered.
get around because no one no one has around these days I do there you go there you go be like Leia be different yeah there's triangle never seen a triangle one before go on you know actually
But you're also upset that like the most followed person on Instagram posts their engagement ring when they get proposed to. And it's like, oh, she stole my idea. Like from who? Who did she take your thunder from?
For the ring, someone else bought her.
No, I remember seeing those like watching Maury show when I was younger. And it would always be like one of those episodes where it's like bad kids or whatever and sending them to these correctional facilities where they're getting screamed at, treated like they're in prison and they're 13, like made to cry. And I'm just like, how is this?
Because she cried about that. Right. And she was saying that, like, I feel like no matter how much work I put forward, you only acknowledge or tell me the things that I'm doing wrong. And it's like that is probably one of the most irritating people to be in a relationship.
Scotty can explain his behavior. JR doesn't feel like he needs to. Yeah.
Or context. He always keeps up bringing up context that's not shown.
And JR doesn't take responsibility either in a completely different way. Like his excuses being like, I am committed to this experiment or whatever it may be. It's like, homeboy, I don't know that you and your person, you and Zayna, had an agreement before. to this level.
Crying in bed, looking at their dog, being like, there's something I have to tell you.
And telling you to go home instead of having a conversation with you, but claiming that she wants to be with you.
But even the flipping of the script where it's like, okay, sure, you took the experiment seriously, Sandy. But then I'm like, even the conversation of what was done and the fact that Nick had to find out about the second kiss or whatever through Zayna. And then she's like, I was going to tell you just like after we're done filming, after we're engaged.
Yep. Bizarre. T. T. And if you're going to lie about how many times that you kissed or pecked, like what else would you lie about?
Also, tidbit, Love is Blind, same show. Take note because they had security cameras in the rooms. So we got to see the stuff that like the conversations that happened when cameras weren't there. Why don't you do that for Love is Blind?
They added that. Is that new?
I hate that you were... If you love someone, you wouldn't kiss somebody else and then have to hurt them to tell them.
Did you ever have a moment where you guys felt like you were forgetting something? Because it's like, I feel like you're constantly having to take care of a baby, that it's like to not have one for a couple of days, that it's like...
His art, what he's passionate about, him crying, whatever it may be. And it's just kind of like, yeah, but you are the source of this pain.
Sandy or JR?
Oh, Nick hates himself? Yeah.
And this is not a criticism to Sandy, but I also do feel like when it's leading with sexuality or being like, I'm Scorpio, so I'm good in bed. It's kind of like, what do you think that that's implying?
Oh my God. In forever.
He was like, it's so nice to have nothing to do. Truly. It was wild.
No, of course. She's fine.
Remember when you were asking about the priorities?
And like you're a male personal trainer, which means I'm assuming that most of your clients are going to be guys that want to look like you. We're also the gym.
But he also said that a lot of context was cut out of conversations that you had so that it was very clear that he was being sarcastic or that you were in on the jokes.
But your interviews after claimed otherwise. So that's what's like, what was it really like during that trial marriage with Scotty? Okay, that scene, there was no laughter.
Two years.
Remember, he was like, what do 32-year-olds do for fun then?
She's great. No, she's great. She deserves so much better than JR. JR is the ultimate fuck boy and I wish him nothing good.
Well, even then, I agreed with her room assignments. I thought it made the most sense as how Lisa did everything. So I was like to do a whole 20 minute breakdown of like how you're upset when you got a suite in a beautiful villa right next door. What are we upset about?
Yeah, that's what she said at the dinner table while showing off crotchless panties.
Yeah.
Heather was actually kind of out of the drama this episode. Good for her.
Yes. Obviously, there's I want to say it's season four where we see Kristen and James get into a fight or break up and they show the clip of her punching him. She wrote in her book after she was let go of Vanderpump Rules, stating that she was in a toxic fling of a relationship and that it did turn physical. Apparently, producers and other people knew about it.
And then you throw Whitney in there every once in a while to spice up a little something.
Whitney's an executive producer and I think creator of the show. And then Miss Pat is his mom. So she's just... I love having her there. She's wonderful. It's like Southern royalty. Yeah.
Yeah, me and my friends. Bring a camera around, see what happens. And then they shot a pilot and Bravo picked it up.
Their storyline for the next like four seasons after that is just like mayhem. But I love all of the shows that are like Southern Charm, Vanderpump Rules, Summer House. Like I like where it's just like an eclectic group of people just bring in their stuff. But it's not, oh, we dug up things about each other. It's like, no, this is literally what happened last weekend.
And we're just talking about it.
Yeah, I'm like, well, Madison is just a great TV maker in general, but I'm like, we've got JT and his conspiracy theories. We've got... But that's what I'm saying.
the big drama you know it's like i feel like there's always some kind of big thing that's weighing on the group that someone has multiple girlfriends who was it was it they were talking about it in the bus but i think we're gonna have a lot of stuff coming up with uh taylor gaston and shep and his new love interest that does not seem interested he's a fan of the show heidi did you did you follow vanderpump rules at all yeah
Clearly, editors had to have known about her being pushed into a bush before said shot of her punching James was shown. That was edited out. So I don't know if it was protection of James. Raquel has come forward and said things in the past about him being violent. We also have season 10 where Raquel was saying that Ali and James had gone into a fight. It was like the first episode of the season.
And she was called a liar and that she didn't know what she was talking about. Friends of Kristen have come forward and said that this guy has been a piece of shit consistently throughout. But you have two ex-girlfriends. saying that he has been violent with them as well.
So there is a scene where they go to a plastic surgeon. Lisa's involved. And she does ask her straight up, did James do that? And Rachel is still defending James at this point, saying, no, it was an accident. He went in for a kiss a little too hard and it bumped her nose.
But it just kind of seems like there's a history of James being protected on this show and the women being called liars who go through a hard breakup with him. You saw him spit on a door. You've seen him say very vulgar things. I, too, want to trust that he could have grown and learned from that. But.
She hosted in 1992. Oh, she did? The last time she hosted was 1991 and 1992. Okay, well, they need to get her back. Yeah, but I'm like, what about... She's due. Yeah, Schitt's Creek? Like, that's wild.
Beetlejuice?
Also, just found out a little fact that Catherine O'Hara was casted in season six of Saturday Night Live, but never filmed an episode because she left to be on a Canadian sketch show.
There was also a story that Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara had shared about being in a car with them headed to TomTom for an after party and that Ali and James got into it in the back seat and that the car had to pull over and that Teddy and Tamara got out of the car. Ali refuted it, saying that that wasn't true. But I'm like, there's just been so many instances where it's like you're hearing...
people being told that they're lying about a situation that clearly is indicative of his behavior.
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Exactly. Exactly.
What time did you sleep in to? Eight. Okay.
That's good. That's good.
We're like, hold this.
literally she's like this oh wait she actually wrote it yeah we like hold her hand around the pen and like i thought you're saying nick wrote it because sometimes the parents will switch their hand no okay we like hold the pen in river's hand and try it out that's cute okay it's sweet i wanted to know if nick did a like choreographed dance for you no that's what everybody has to do on mother's day any choreographed dance not one ounce of it but i did get a bottega back
And she's here.
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Well, then he said that Drew had an affair. So Ralph is just choosing violence.
No, he was saying that he filed the divorce first and that she had an affair with her friend that was mentioned on the show previously. But it was just mentioned as an emotional.
I'm an Angela Stan, Britt. She's cool.
Do you think she was right to bring up Shamia's words about Portia?
There's two different conversations. So there's the one where Drew was saying, like, oh, I could pay for all of Portia's kids' college.
And then there was a different conversation where Shamia and Angela spoke. This was isolated, I believe, from everybody else.
I just did that to get you riled up.
Yeah. And then it seems like Dennis was like, no, I don't want you. I just want the money.
Tallulah was on it too, right? Tallulah?
There's also like a health culture of like Gen Z is turning into like
Rite Aid is closing. Am I the only one that's sad about this?
Well, my thing is, where are you going to get Band-Aids and ice cream? CVS, Duane Reade, Walgreens. But Thrifty's is like a specific ice cream. What is Thrifty's? It's an ice cream that's at Rite Aid. Okay. Nowhere else.
If you get it fresh. But it's like crispy. Like it's shaped in a way that other ice creams aren't shaped.
Nope. That's a thing.
It's good.
Anyways, RIP.
Yeah.
I think you need a balance of OGs and newbies. That's what every franchise had except for Roni where they just scrapped everybody.
And then throw Sonia in there.
Wait, what was your favorite song from Frozen?
He adjusted by pulling a little lower than a normal adjustment.
really yeah they've redacted like all photos online now but oh i don't even think a great publicist has the power to get images scrubbed from the internet no it's still there they just put a black bar instead of a blur now oh oh oh you could see his junk before i don't know if a publicist does but like money talks i heard it takes fifty thousand dollars to scrub something off the internet really thousand oh
Well, cute story.
You can say whatever you want.
How far did you go?
And the producer asked about her and she's like, eh, whatever. Did I do that? Whatever.
A moment everyone should have, she says.
You do this?
See if it landed. Just see what happens. Just put it out there.
Get the jersey to her list back.
Bye.
He's tech.
How many emojis did dad use?
I don't know if we can say remodel because we did fully tear it down.
So it is crazy that Casey Anthony was like, I'm just going to pop in on TikTok and see like what the fans are doing these days.
And then she's now suing like for the comments.
Casey Anthony, not Nancy Grace. Who the fuck hired her? Who was like, yes, we want her on our team?
Like it is a tear down.
And a rebuild. Renovate.
Someone commented under her video and it was like the most light comment. And it said Casey Anthony saying she's a legal advocate is like Jeffrey Dahmer opening up a steakhouse. Mm hmm. And that hit the internet. Yeah.
Imagine if Jeffrey Dahmer, is he still living? No. He's not. He's dead. I don't, honey. I mean, come on. There's too much in this brain, like beauty and humor and humbleness. Yeah. But imagine if he got out of prison for some reason and then was like, I bought a franchise of Outback. People would be like, uh, the fuck?
OJ has always leaned in and dabbled on the line, the very thin line.
Do you think it's only because he arrested Justin Timberlake?
Oh, that was his first year and he arrested Justin Timberlake.
It would be with Michael motherfucking Marone.
Have you ever seen 365 on Netflix?
Yeah, a lot. 365 on Netflix? Uh-uh.
Oh, my God. You haven't seen it?
The yacht scene is yacht scening and... Yacht scene?
The yacht scene with him and... Yacht scene at the yacht scene. I don't remember the female actress that he is...
in this scene with but let me tell you if you ever need a moment well i don't know if it would be good work will it okay if you ever need a moment is she enjoying it oh my god okay i mean it is full on well in the sex scene she definitely she is yeah yeah the yacht scene very aggressive
very sexy it listen if they would have put that sex energy into baby girl i feel like baby girl would have been a lot more popular anyways the rest of my case it's good to see blake out and about i'm excited for a new paul feig movie i really love him and he loves blake yeah and he loves shutting down a rumor yeah he's a very talented and funny guy shutting down that they blake lively and anna kendrick were like beefing and he said that was incorrect or wrong or something
I mean, Anna Kendrick definitely does lean in to the narrative. She was asked, like, what does it mean to be working with Blake again? And she just responds with, oh, you know.
She didn't say, lovely, it's amazing.
Yeah.
In the lake. They're in a rental. Okay. They're in a rental.
You think that's where the string is connected to? Our assholes?
It's just our butts touching?
Yeah. And what am I doing to your fat ass? I also have. Wow.
He's objectifying himself as well.
Honestly, they work together. When they were showing their pictures of them out and about in the world, they look really cute together. They bought their first home.
For what?
Oh, the Dave apology. Because the truth came out.
Not even like a phone call. He wouldn't even let Lauren like talk to her on the phone.
She was like, we've been at bars together and you've never come over and said anything.
Neither did Alex because he did not grow a beard. Yeah. You know, I think he actually shaved more off for the reunion. He did grow more hair on his head.
I just feel like it's a little dangerous to your hair now.
It's hard when like three of the relationships have issues with her. Like it's really hard to watch Monica and Joey like have this issue of her being like texting with Joey and then meeting him at the bar and then like all of, you know, all of these issues and then.
I think she was trying to prove that Alex was talking shit, but the only proof that she has or brought with her was that him saying that Meg and Mason are back together, melty face emoji. She thought that was important to include, which honestly, I love that emoji. I think it's very fun. It's one of my favorites. And then to say, and they wore their reveal outfits when they first met each other.
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But it's like she was trying to.
Yeah, it's like, well, and that's all referring to all the shit you said about Mason. It's like, well, where is the shit he said about Mason? Yeah. Where is all of that? Because she said he said that Mason was weird and had no friends. And she said that he said, fuck Mason or fuck you, Mason or something. Where is that proof?
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I will say I disagree with Sarah trying to come after Ben, trying to like paint this whole like you were very scripted and I don't believe you. Like I think if you don't break up on bad terms, like they seem to just like not have like the most aligned values maybe is really the reason they didn't end up together. And it's like clearly they were in some sort of communication.
So it's like for him to say, hey, I think we should like get on this on the same page, get on good terms before reunion is like the most respectful way to go about. Like that was someone that he was engaged to. And if there's any issues, it's like let's work through these not on national television. Like we do. We left this relationship with equal respect for each other.
So like why out all of this shit on national television?
if we could just work through it right now.
Well, no, to Maya, she was like, why did you take me off, find my friends? And he was like, I'm sorry I took you off, find my friends, but we're broken up. I can't be tracking you all the time. I can't have you tracking me. We're broken up, so I'm so sorry, blah, blah, blah, whatever. She felt like that was a very scripted apology and didn't feel like that was real.
And then he texts her before reunion being like, hey, we should get on the same page.
personal experience. It's very hard. I think they go from normal life to filming. A year later, it airs. The whole fucking internet has an opinion about them. So I think like them leaning on past cast members, especially Jimmy, who did kind of go through a very public breakup with Chelsea. They had some issues. He went to the reunion. She kind of came after him.
I don't think he left the reunion feeling very well. So I feel like Ben reaching out to Jimmy or anyone from previous seasons isn't like a negative thing. I don't think it's a bad thing.
I think Ben knew he was not going to get out of that reunion in a good light. So he was like, let me just say the basic like, yep, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sorry I hurt you. This is my version of things. This is how it played out for me.
And I feel like he wasn't in a place where he could be like, let's argue with this woman on national television because that's kind of like what he texted her to do over text or over phone or in person or on FaceTime before the reunion. So neither of them had to do it on national television, which I honestly respect if there was no if he if neither of them did anything wrong. Right.
Like, you know, they left on good terms. There was some obviously confusion of like who's going to Nashville, who's not whatever, like a little ghosting on. It seems like both of their ends. But I don't see anything wrong with him being like, let's just like not air out all of our dirty laundry in front of the world. Let's do it with each other and get on.
Like, this is all that matters is me and you at the end of the day. So like, let's get on good terms. Let's crush whatever beef we have and like go to the reunion and be like, we're good.
Virginia and Devin was interesting how she was basically like, I know he's not comfortable talking about his beliefs on camera and I'm not comfortable repeating his beliefs on camera. But I will tell you what my beliefs are, which I feel like was the shadiest way. Very classy. Very shady.
Also, she talked about like, what was this whole check thing that like his mom wrote a check for them to get married? His mom's boss.
wrote a check for the wedding and she never knew of the check until after and so she never saw the check and she was like I'm not saying you pocketed the money but like I didn't even know that existed so it's a weird thing to not mention I feel like anytime we got any sort of money for our wedding whether it's from my family Nick's family a mutual friend it was like
Smells like pennies.
Oh my God, look, they sent us a hundred bucks. How nice. It was a conversation we have with each other. So I think Devin not telling her was definitely a little red flaggy.
You don't think he's like, I signed this prenup. That means everything's going to be both of ours the second we marry. So maybe I'll just keep this to myself.
I don't know when he cashed the check. No one ever said when he cashed the check.
No, he was going to tell her after they were married that he got the check.
I don't know.
I'm not his bank account. I am not Wells Fargo. AD and Oli are engaged. They were cute. Did that ruin perfect match?
I guess, honestly, they were probably like, listen, we're ready to get engaged. Like, so either we need to, like, announce this with y'all or we're going to announce it on our own. But, like, our relationship's ready to move forward. It's not on the timeline of a perfect match.
Usually it ends with, like, people voting who the perfect match was, right?
And they went on a trip, yeah.
They're engaged. Nothing to worry about. I will say they do everything in their power on these reunions to just like they they'll throw in anything. They'll throw in like a magician if they need to. It's like, what is the concert?
We did Going Deeper with him. Yeah, we had him. That was Alex Warren.
Yeah. And then all the best moments, which some of it, I'm like, why are we bringing this up again?
Really?
They do need it.
I think it might take a while after this season for people to jump on to next season. You know, I think they might be like, I think people watched.
That's true. You know, Bachelor seasons have been way worse than this Love is Blind season.
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I was like, okay. I'm gonna come over. I have to show you my Starbucks cup.
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Would you? What would you? That's a long flight.
That's OK. Nick puts me in row 50. So. What? Yeah. He does. Anytime he flies, he's in first class. But if I'm with him, we're 50.
Yeah, it has to be one of them.
It's hurting me to wear.
No, you did.
Surprise.
I'm freaking out. That's crazy. So, yeah. Row 50 is fun. If you ever wanted to see what it was like back there, maybe I could take you.
Well, I'm quite comfortable back there.
No, it is just, I think it would be fine if it were the two of us. But the fact that I did carry Bertha's child and he's putting me and his 13-month-old daughter in row 50 is I think what is really just like, he's torturing both of us.
How are you guys doing? Good.
Don't disturb mom. She's like, I'll take a hot towel immediately.
I think, yeah. I mean, ours is still a lap, our lap child, so.
But remember when you were flying yourself and you had that little emblem on the chair?
Did you see any celebrities like having to take their shoes off because their feet hurt? Did you see any like couples arguing? Did you see any?
Yeah.
Would you ever like see maybe like a pair of, I don't know.
No, but they are Louis Vuitton. So anyways, we'll be moving on. Did you see Tamara Judge is speaking her exit from Real Housewives of OC?
And just posted a selfie in the airport.
You know none of them... Come up with it.
They just say them all and then they find out what the producers picked when the show airs.
Use it in like a crazy accent.
That didn't make any sense.
Perfect. So but she did post a selfie in the airport looking like she is leaving filming. She is done, which I guess when you are that close to someone who is fighting so hard for their life, you realize that like the petty, stupid drama just isn't worth it. You know, and that's probably what all her co-stars. I mean, that's what every reality TV show is about is just like stupid, petty drama.
And so I feel like she was probably like this. Just I don't give a fuck.
Are you a Dorit or Kyle?
And I think my wallet is. Well, then if it is, why isn't your mother here?
I feel like Dorit would have.
For sure.
I honestly do think, though, if Nick did have a British accent, I also would have a British accent. It's just, I would.
And if Alec Baldwin had a Hispanic accent, it would make sense for also Hilaria to have one as well.
I think Hilaria is also from Connecticut. What's in the water in Connecticut?
Oh, my gosh. Well, sorry.
You heard it here first. How would you say Nick? Nick. Perfect.
Do you say you do like a what are you doing tonight?
It was giving a Tuesday. Yeah, I thought it was Tuesday.
Casino was bought. RIP.
Oh my god.
Right now! His face is falling off.
That's real. It was you and Cynthia neck and neck.
Yeah. I feel like it would have been bigger with.
If I think so.
No, they met filming. Yeah, I thought they met when he was Spongebob.
That is nuts. Are you a fan of Southern Hospitality?
I honestly feel like anytime there's like a, let's do a prom when everyone's like 30. And also I feel like, do they know it's the last episode?
Well, they did say at the end when like Will's little hot mic moment.
What do you want to do for the finale? Which seemed very.
What do you want to do for the finale?
Yeah. I will say, and I've said this all season long.
i don't like tj i don't like him he's so toxic i think something about him him at the prom yelling at will and emmy in like that in the front was the most like honestly i would have laughed with emmy and will because it was laughable it was like why are you so worked up yeah why are you yelling well then they went to go well why are you yelling why are you
yelling they pulled aside what's his name the buff mustache Austin and then like yeah TJ just comes out and follows him along being like I'm part of this conversation and then Brad she said are we monkeys yeah right that was and I honestly I would have walked away too if you're like trying to have a private conversation and everyone comes it's like what has happened like just watch it back it'll air in a few months and then when what's her name was like I'm your best friend no you're not yeah I'm your I'm not yeah
We don't need to spin off with Emmy and Will.
It felt very much like they have, they're in their relationship and the rest of the cast is not. And so like anything that happens, they're like, oh my God. And she's like, yeah, babe, I was there. I'm aware. Like you're really trying to, like you want me to tell you everything that goes on? His sister also stayed at the house.
You think that's ancestors?
Like why didn't you tell me? Yeah.
And then River's daughter is going to be like, you know what? Just date it. I'm done with this.
Would you go off of like vibes and energy?
There's just too much tactic and strategy. It's just exhausting.
I'm faithful. Can I just sit here and watch?
Vote me out. Fine. Yeah, go ahead. Is it giving baddie?
Because I'm getting mad. I'm freaking out.
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I did love how it seemed like that table was very far away from that door. And Paige got all the way inside. She was inside. And she heard Two-Face.
And she immediately turned around.
It was like they kind of almost like.
Like a little like grazed like. It was just enough that it was like.
Enough to make his dick a little hard.
And enough for her to be like, oh my God.
And it would hurt the baby.
Well, see, the thing is, Lindsay already knew the gender. So I would imagine that they went together to the doctor, maybe got the call, had a moment together. And then she was like, I'm going to do this. He doesn't seem like he's quite of a texter, you know, which neither are you. So honestly, I would see you saying maybe not a lot of W's after all.
It would probably be like a misspelled all somehow. I don't know how you'd misspell it.
I would not be shocked. No, I would be like, okay, yeah.
Sorry, I actually, you might get free Wi-Fi up there, but I have to pay for it.
My wallet's somewhere deep inside my carry-on. I can't find it.
I don't know if they still do.
Oh my god, yeah. Could you imagine?
Did you ever?
You're Kevin.
You're married to Brenda Fox.
Done, done, done.
Oh my God. I'm kidding.
We came up with the idea.
And that's fucked up. And that is actually fucked up. But you are familiar with vampire-esque. Who do you feel like in Bravo Nation world, Housewife-ish world, would be the best vampires?
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Thank you. Who's your least favorite housewife?
I was just going to say it's going to say Brandon move on.
I think at some point you do have to get over it.
Just like the rest of the world.
You never have to ask if you can do anything else.
I feel like she's in a phase of like, you can't get to me. You know, where like I went through fucking hell and like now I can take anything and like it won't.
And I'm the same way, so.
Yeah. Even when Dorit was like trying to cut. And I just got new earrings. Yeah. I did not get any earrings, actually.
Sorry, what? Sorry. Sorry, it was just a little.
Well, if she had met Bose first, it would have been Bose before Erika.
Like, you mean her and PK?
Kyle texting PK?
There's no pause.
And yes, they do.
I told you. I told you. I told you.
What? Say your name.
Gagged.
I love it. I love this. This is a very nice Spanish lesson. And I do appreciate you doing that for free. For free.
All right. And that's why we're still in Roll50.
Thanks for having me.
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Well, that Harvey.
He sounded like an old prospector. That Harvey was so much fun.
We could do a class trip.
That ex, her leaving was hard to watch where she's like, don't hate me. He's like, I could never hate you. I love you.
There will be a studio there, so it's like we could everyone come out for a field trip and we record some episodes. You check into the Motel 6 down the street.
Everyone at the table being like, Sienna, are you planning on changing like your lifestyle and living in Charleston and getting married and having kids? And she's like, no.
You don't think Shep saw it on Taylor and was like... Or maybe kept it in mind?
Oh my god, Megalodon? There's that whole movie, The Meg. The Meg.
That is pretty common in the South, like on the coast, to give shark tooth necklaces.
There's a lot of higher-end places.
You know, they're all over himself.
If we're going to do it, we should do it with... I am so Dylan.
Sue Dillon. That's what she talks. She prank calls people. She's like, hey, it's Sue Dillon.
Yeah.
She wears the wig and she like smokes cigarettes and she sits in the corner of her house and she like prank calls people for him and she'll be like, my bush needs to be shaved.
That's how she talks to people.
Hurry.
Listen to her. Just click on one of them. She said, any will do.
Yeah.
She's serving like... It's not a mutt. It's a pure breed beagle. She's like, that mutt.
Well, do you think the earth is flat? Yeah.
Impassioned. Impassioned. Impassioned.
Well, the stairs are in the same spot.
I mean, have y'all talked? Like, are y'all friends?
But doesn't know who they are. Yeah, he did retract his photo by saying he did not know who they were. He thought they were podcasters who were just fans of Vanderbilt.
Did they? Yeah.
You tell him, Brittany. We had Chrishell on. She talked about the whole Danielle swearing on her grandchildren. You are the closest to her, I would imagine. Where do you think that came from? Was she really just like, I'm in? no matter what?
Coming off of that statement, obviously you are a mom. You've talked about your kids. How bad were or are your intrusive thoughts?
Research at your own discretion.
So it's not on ABC.
So it did not take The Bachelorette airing time, so that rumor is debunked. Yeah.
I mean, the fact that there is not one different label of alcohol anywhere in that house on camera shows that Kyle definitely has an upper hand than most of these people. He does. They have production laying out his company and will not allow any competition around.
But they did not show that brand. They didn't show what the fuck it was. She just said, I have a non-alcoholic champagne in there.
I mean, I feel like the Tate brother has less of a reason to lie and James has more of a reason.
I don't know, maybe it was- I don't know how he still has his residency in Vegas.
What did he write on the selfie?
I think so.
Do we remember the angle of the picture? Was it like James taking it? It was James taking the selfie. The two brothers are on the side of him.
Well, Gypsy Rose is out and about.
Maybe they're done with us.
She got a new haircut and maybe she is like, fuck these bitches. I'm a new woman.
She got a Karen Bob. She got a fuck ass Bob. I love it.
You live to piss people off.
It's a crazy ask to be like, I need you to fight with trolls and Reddit people for me. It's an absolutely insane ask.
I mean, he said at the end of it, she didn't want me.
He doesn't have to be nice.
He sat on Watch What Happens Live and he said, I never said she cheated. That is him defending her. He said, those words never came out of my mouth. I'm not involved with Reddit rumors. I'm not involved with TikTok journalists. I never said that. So take those rumors for what you will, but I wasn't a part of them. Fair enough. That's him defending her, in my opinion.
Did you know that Jalen Hurts, he's the quarterback for the Eagles. He is hot. He, since not last year but the year before when they lost in a Super Bowl against the Chiefs, there's like a famous picture of him that went viral of him walking off the field with the like red and gold confetti like falling everywhere. As a loser. Just as a loser. They lost.
And like you have to have the same timelines. It's like, I think that's why me and you worked the way that we did is because we both wanted the same things at the same time. And I think clearly we see Craig and Paige not wanting that. the same thing. Also, I think it's insane that people are reporting on him and Sally being at Nobu in New York and trying to make it a thing. They're castmates.
It's a co-star. He's out to dinner with a fucking castmate, with a co-worker. Come on, people.
I also can't imagine like, Craig sitting at home and seeing a notification being like, oh, Craig and Paige break up mutual. And he's like, what the fuck? No, it wasn't. I didn't want to break up with her. I love her.
They lost the game. And he's like walking off the field. And he said that that photo has been his wallpaper up until yesterday.
only mutual if they both come together and they both are like, we shouldn't be together.
It's also like, I love Paige. I love Craig. I loved them together. Clearly they weren't going to work, but it's like a breakup is never, it's always going to be messy. Like no matter what, it's always going to be messy. Someone's going to feel hurt and someone's going to feel bad.
People break up.
People break up.
If it's mutual, then it's like, this is all right, let's we're done here. But like for it not to be mutual, it's like one of us has to heal a little bit before we like announce to the world. So let's like tread lightly for a few weeks.
100%. Truly, they love a pickup camera, which we got a tease of that.
She's not ready.
How do you think Taylor Swift handled Travis's, you know, loss? Like, what do you think her technique is?
Should we get into our Daily Dilemma?
The Daily Dilemma is a TikTok couple reveals a twist in their sleeping arrangements and why they no longer share a bed. The husband revealed he's been sleeping in their walk-in closet for a month and noted he dragged the guest bedroom mattress into the closet. He says, my wife's not a huge fan of this arrangement, obviously.
He clarified that the arrangement is temporary and shared that it was something I had to do just to prioritize my mental health. I was not okay, he continued. I was really struggling and I was feeling awful, so that's why I'm here. He also opened up about his constant battle with ADHD and anxiety and noted that was part of the reason why he chose to sleep in the closet.
His wife said, I'm a lonely girl. Say what you want, but I'm codependent and I hated being alone at night. She also added that it's been hard to go into the closet now since there's a queen-size mattress in there. He also explained that he saw his parents sleep separately growing up because they both had sleep problems and know that it had nothing to do with the health of their marriage.
How would you feel if I was like, yeah.
Like there's two things that I have problems with.
There's two things I have problems with. I don't help your mental health. Getting in at night and like cuddling, rubbing feet, touching in some sort of way with your partner doesn't like ease your mental health. You have to go sleep in the cold closet surrounded by stinky, smelly shoes and the dirty laundry basket to feel at ease.
That's crazy. Sierra, I know you're fucking different because you're crazy.
She did get booed.
I mean, the fact that he's able to get on his podcast and publicly say that, like, him and his wife be like, yeah, I have to sleep in the closet because my mental health is not good. Mm-hmm.
Thank you.
Could be wrong.
If Taylor Swift can sit through half of a stadium booing her and she can just sit there and take that, I can take anything that comes my way. So true.
Thank you.
And I'm wearing Valentine's Day socks.
Yeah. I asked you because you're like the one who, I have my technique with you and that's duct tape my mouth shut.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So cute. It's Valentine's Day week. I love the little hearts. Did you know it was Valentine's Day week, honey?
And we- Wasn't she like, why won't you hug me? Yes. Touch me. Why won't you hug me?
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I doubt she would. But I did see the video of him walking into her suite after, and he looked so sad.
Very handsome. The hair is flowing. The hair is flowing. I did see some funny tweets. He actually looks better sad. You think? Yeah.
How happy were you watching this episode back knowing you didn't have to go through the bugs? Or were you like, that would have been fun?
And then they come back. People say maybe they wouldn't have won if Jason would have been there. Maybe everything was perfect the way that it was and throwing a little something different in.
You talked about having two girls. Are they watching traitors or do they think you're so uncool?
Okay. On Friday. Sounds convincing.
Yeah.
But did you see the Google Pixel commercial?
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He's so nice.
That's so cool that he like does his research on people to try to just like get to know them before he goes on. That's a smart. No, I know. But it was like sweet that he remembered all that.
And it was just so... And he had a little girl. And she grew up. And she went to college. And he was like... Being able to depend on people who also depend.
How's the villain? I haven't had heebie-jeebies that bad in a long time. I mean, watching all of those bugs, I mean, I think I still feel one in my ear. But the question is, how far would you make it? Are you a Chrishell? I think I could have done... No. A Sierra? Well, I don't know. Chrishell, honestly, I related to that.
But I feel like I could have... If I had someone who was really gripping my hand, I feel like I could have gotten past the scorpions. But then once those bugs dropped on my fucking head... No.
Thank God Sierra had a veil because they were all on that veil instead of crawling on her neck. But how far would you have gone? You had heebie-jeebies.
He was like, I love this.
Dancing. Dancing for Skechers.
And that's all Tom Sandoval is. He felt so good after he got Rob out and everyone was like, good job, Tom.
Yeah.
Really? Listen, like there's a reason Fear Factor got canceled. It's like you can only take so much of that stuff.
What does that mean?
I was like, what is it?
He's got a funny personality.
You know, I made you a basket, a Valentine's Day basket.
This season is good. I'm hooked. I'm still holding on to my, Latia and Juliana are still definitely fine too.
Engineer. Mechanical engineer.
Yeah.
No, do you remember that Bud Light one with the horses? With the horses? Oh, the horses. Yeah. There was a lot of good Bud Light. No, that one. Yeah, Bud Light. Did they have one this year, the Bud Light? I don't know. I was trying to skip through to get to currently in the football game and Nick wouldn't allow me. I was like, the commercials used to be for everyone.
Serafina did.
Well, she didn't say it to Zoe. She said it about Zoe to someone else, but. These are mean girls.
No, I'm on a roller coaster. Whoa.
Well, Allie Jo was a part of that group. So you can bring that same energy with Allie Jo and ask her what the fuck. Yeah. Say it with your chest.
It was kind of laughable, just the difference in group dates of how last week she was like, I don't give a fuck. I'm stealing him from you. I don't care. I want to talk to him. That's what this whole thing is about. And I'm going to sit here silent. And then the next week being like, I didn't get enough time with him. It's like, go. Your actions have consequences.
It's like, now you know how we feel from last week.
I do wish in that moment she would have said when Juliana was like, let's just cut to the chase. Like Zoe, like, what did you tell him? What was her answer to that? I can talk to him about whatever I want to. I wish you would have been like, yeah, I told him that, like, Serafina, you fucking called my dress short and that hurt my feelings.
And if this is going to be my husband, I would like to confide in my husband about, like, people who hurt my feelings. And so, yeah, Serafina, I did tell him that you said that. What the fuck?
No, that's when I thrive.
Hello. Hello.
I wanted to be where everyone was. I felt like everyone else knew what was happening and we didn't.
Nobody. It was just an inner problem. You knew. Yeah.
But when you guys confronted Zoe, there was many of... It was after when Serafina said her dress was short and she went and she told Grant about it. And then Grant was like, the rumors, like y'all need to be nice to each other. And it was like, Zoe, what did you say to him? And then y'all all kind of...
Allie Jo's hands are clean.
Arms were not crossed. Hands are clean. They were not crossed. Exactly. I mean, were you aware of this like Rose and Carolina issue where Grant told her he was thinking of Rose during the dance with Carolina? Did you hear that?
We don't want to talk Kendrick Lamar's bootcut flare jeans. I loved them.
I've already curated your basket, but a basket has like so many different things in it.
Thank you.
Honey, I don't think Kendrick Lamar is giving us the next fashion trend. I think he's just doing what works for him.
Thank you.
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Like to teach her boyfriend a lesson to not yell at her is to take him to jail?
No, first she told the police that she was picked up and thrown across the room.
According to Lisa Vanderpump. Are we just completely discrediting what the police wrote? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Is Lisa just completely discrediting? Lisa is saying categorically he didn't hurt her.
Yeah, that's what she's saying. Kristen Doty responded to Lisa Vanderpump's statement and said, absolutely and disgustingly diabolical. I will never, ever be OK with this constant abuse enabling behavior to have the audacity to dumb down not only facts, but also feelings makes me sick to my stomach. To every woman who is a survivor of DV and wasn't believed or supported. I'm so sorry.
Yep.
It's also like if clearly James Kennedy is sick, he has addictions, he... But yeah, his addictions, it's always stated as an excuse. I'm not saying it as an excuse. I'm saying that this is clearly what happens when he's drunk. I don't know what happens when he's not drunk. I'm sure it's... A result. Correct.
Is this like a stocking stuffer? Kind of. It's a Valentine's Day basket. It's like an Easter basket, Valentine's Day basket.
And I think it lies more with like, he cannot acknowledge the fact that when he is drunk, he is violent enough towards people in his life. And I think that is where this like issue with me is. I can understand like people have addictions and it makes them do things out of character, out of pocket. I've seen it with my own eyes.
And like and then when they're not when they're when they're sober, when they're not on drugs, they're a completely different person. I get that. But it's like the fact that he isn't able to sit back and say, I do this when I am drinking or I do this when I'm not drinking is like a problem for me.
She's discrediting every woman who's ever spoken out against James Kennedy.
That's clear. Yeah. Clear.
Yeah.
No, I loved Parisa and him doing the Chubby Bunny. That was so funny.
I told you all that. Should we get into some Salt Lake City? Brittany came. Brittany showed up.
Her laughing about her being estranged from her children was insane. And then to point the finger at Bronwyn and be like, you did this while she's in her casting video. I'd be like, I'm estranged from my kids. They won't talk to me. There's drama there.
You're pitching... You're pitching you not having a relationship with your daughters as a reason to get on this show is crazy. She is made for TV. And the text from Jared Osman to Bronwyn.
Yeah, why does he think it's okay to speak to anyone that way?
Literally. Why is Jared Osmond? What does that mean between you and me?
It was bizarre that she was not supporting Bronwyn and women and being like, well, you did say he had a micropenis and he kind of has like right. And she didn't even say it.
She was part of a conversation. That was upsetting. And then even for Mary to be like, I like Jared. He's never done anything. It's like, you just heard the text you sent to your co-star. But it's like, if I hear someone sending that text to anyone, I'm like, immediately I have a different opinion of that person, whether it was sent to me or sent to you. 100%.
If they're capable of saying those words, I don't like that person.
I mean, they're back together currently today. Well, like I can't. I just I just.
It said on the reunion, like, edit, they are back together since filming this.
I feel like maybe she thinks it's like, oh my God, he just loves me so much. I love it when he love bombs me.
It's giving chaos. She also really stuck to her guns about Meredith throwing up, which it bothers me that Meredith has the biggest reaction to this. It's like, bitch, you think I wasn't throwing up? What a fucking weirdo. I wish she'd just be like... Meredith gets so activated by Brittany being like... No, you, I, there's a specific sound to throwing up and I definitely, and I definitely heard.
But he also is suing the production company that put out the Kendrick Lamar. Isn't it his own record label, actually?
She's convinced herself that the editing team has elongated the amount of time she was recording. And she still stands by the fact that it was only two to three seconds. And she's like, no, they made it longer. And Andy was like, they can't do that.
Well, Mary said, get over it. It's done. And hopefully you are too. She has had no time for Britney's nonsense. Did you see when Meredith was talking about how she's like a forgiving person and people deserve second chances? And Britney was like, well, what about me? What about me?
He's suing them for basically being like...
Receiving a call from Jen Shaw. But answering the call, being on the call list, which is a question Whitney said of like, Heather, are you on her call list? I had a friend once who was in prison and you have to be like approved to be on their call list.
Yep. Well, that's one of them. Got to be on the call list. And so Meredith has been like, yeah, sure. You can add my number on there. And yeah, you can call me.
You think they're going to let you call? Yeah, but that's... I mean, maybe it's different state by state. I don't know.
But it is crazy.
It is crazy that Jen Shaw was able to say what she said about Meredith's children and Meredith to forgive her. Which she sat on this couch and she told us about that call and about having that conversation with Jen Shaw. But I guess for me, yeah, it's like... And this is where I stand with Lisa on this. It's like, if you fuck with Nick or River, you are dead to me.
And it's like, the fact that Jen Shaw was able to fuck with Meredith's kids and she still takes her calls...
I don't think Jen Shaw needs to be awarded with a TV show. I don't either. I agree with you.
It also is so easy because Nick has a running wish list in his notes app that we both share access to.
But they seemingly broke up for the exact same reasons. Like Paige broke up with Craig because she didn't see her like settling and marrying him. And Matt broke up with Rachel because he said she had qualities that he didn't see in a wife. It's the exact same thing. Yeah.
And it's like Matt James is vilified and he's the breaker upper and Craig is being vilified and he's the one who got broken up with. And it's like, how did that happen?
I saw the black and white filter.
Yeah, it's rated R. The headlines make it seem like it's very erotic.
Who? Oh, she returned.
Something.
What did you take from it? What is the message of Wicked? I don't give a fuck about the message.
Jared Osmond.
I mean, the one scene of him and Brittany sitting down talking was giving power dynamic.
She's an angel. I'm sorry.
Girl, I know, but I wish I didn't know. Basically, she was at an airport, Jersey Mike's. Do you know which airport?
I'll look into it, but basically... I bet it's LA. Well, so she basically, from what we know, and we'll go through the different sides of that, she ordered her sandwiches with her family. She made changes to the order. And then eventually they were like, look, you have to get back in line to like replace orders. So she whipped out her phone and starts recording the employees. Oh, dear God.
I'm assuming getting a whole new sandwich or changing the bread or the actual recipe or something.
You should watch her video. She'll catch up to see.
how dare you so she kind of touches on that but she's like they took our order and then they took the lady's order that was after me but they fulfilled her order first somehow made us wait everything was slow we're not complaining we get it it's early in the morning you're in a bad mood it's new year's you're working i'd be pissed too it was like kind of the through line of what she said but here's a video of them doing it she's recording them and herself like it's like a karen moment you know
So then one of the Jersey Mike's employees who was in the video posted her own TikTok saying, I really hope this stupid bitch has TikTok. I really hope I come up on your For You page, bitch. I really hope you recognize me. Not knowing this was a housewife? I think she knew. I don't think she knew. Maybe not.
So the Jersey Mike's person claimed that Jennifer Aiden doesn't know what she wants when ordering four different sandwiches and changing the bread last minute. The employee and her co-workers were apparently fulfilling the adjustments until Aiden allegedly started backing up the entire line.
Workers then told the New Jersey Star that she needed to get back in line if she was going to continue adding sandwiches. She starts tweaking the employee claim, alleging that Aiden said, I'm a celebrity, and claimed she was going to sue. She starts recording all of us, and she posts, learn how to order.
She's the one that got spacked in the face with the glass. I think I gotta be more specific. She's friends with Teresa Giudice.
She's married to the botched guy. No, not botched guy. She's married to the plastic surgeon. Here, here.
I think hers has because people didn't know she's really complaining besides her quote unquote fans until. She posted this. Yeah. And then it was reshared once the employee was like airing her out, essentially.
I'm just like, if this is your way of securing a storyline in the reboot of New Jersey, I don't think Jersey Mike's is cutting it.
Nia Sanchez is pregnant with baby number four. Congratulations.
I'm surprised she hasn't. I mean, maybe she hasn't. I haven't seen it because I don't have Twitter. But have you seen Brittany throwing shade at Lisa? What? About sponsorships? Yeah. So basically, we know that Brittany has the whole like bump it, high body count hair where Lisa says you need a Kerastase. What is it?
And then so basically, a couple of days ago, Brittany posted a TikTok unboxing like a Kerastase package singing I'm not that girl. And then the caption was.
Not naming names. And then she's drinking a big gulp or like a big Wendy's drink. And we know that Lisa is the queen of Wendy's sponsorships and she got a Karastos sponsorship like two, three weeks before.
She didn't, so that's why she posted it.
That was before this. So she was, like, teasing it, but then where's the sponsorship?
And then the direct correlation is the Wendy's drink that Brittany was drinking. Right.
I don't have Twitter, so I wouldn't know.
Well, Brahman reposted a screenshot of the tweet and then the caption on it says, I'm not sure why we need to do this too. I am not on Twitter nearly at all and I haven't been for a month or so, especially now. I have my hands so full trying to be the best daughter I can to two very sick parents. I'm so appreciative for those of you who have reached out and for the castmates who bothered too.
The rest I wish would at least leave me alone if they can't wish me well. Making TikToks about my outfits or accusations on Twitter right now or last week when my mom was in the ICU with a brain tumor. is kicking a dog when it's already down.
I will say what Bethany's doing right now is she's doing this like handbag university. So basically, I don't know if you've seen, but the Walmart Birkin has blown up on TikTok. And like Bethany is her message right now is like, who cares what the brand is, how much you spent on it. Like as long as the bag is cute, it's cute.
So she's like educating people on like cheap bags right now, which is I think commendable.
Yeah.
The fake ones.
OK.
Exactly.
You can get the Kelly Birkin. It's mini. We're not selling any of them?
You haven't seen this? Well, so there's people that can sell things through Walmart. So Walmart's the platform, but there's like shops. And basically there's this seller that was selling, they didn't claim it was this, but people are calling it the Walmart Birkin. Because it's the same design as a Birkin. And the Birkin people are up in arms.
They weren't until, I mean, we don't, we haven't heard anything from them, but it's been taken off the site. Who's them?
Hermes. So Hermes hasn't spoken out publicly about it, but we know that you can no longer buy it through Walmart as of like a week ago.
Well, I did see you can buy.
Yeah. Can I get one? You can buy the materials on Amazon and build it yourself. Build. Build. Yeah. They give you all the stuff. You just have to sew it together. Do you want to do that for me? I can take a day off and do it. Paige and Craig have split.
Well, I feel like they handled it pretty well. Yeah. Because it was Paige on Giggly Squad.
Briefly, yeah. I don't think you need to dive into it. Well, there are rumors out there of Paige, and basically she's clapping back on TikTok comments saying, see you in court. Love this fictional storytelling.
She's having fun with it.
I'm assuming no more.
Or maybe not. Maybe we see the fallout of it.
Probably not. Why would they?
I did see that. Craig has a pillow line and if you go to the page collection on his website, it says Paige does no longer exist or something.
She had a page collection but he took it off the page. When you click on the link, it says Paige no longer exists.
Louis yeah I did sit on the plane home next to a person from Wisconsin I thought of you you were talking to the person next to you I was and I thought of you specifically I will say I was like I want to read my book but sure let's do this let's keep talking
Were you itching to... I could not hear a single thing she was saying, but this older woman could hear everything I was saying, so I was like, I need to up my game.
Apparently.
Jon Hamm also did say that Dree is not doing it for him. How do you feel about that? That's an unpopular opinion.
And Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who gave birth to her baby.
I have one on my finger, yeah.
On her one year anniversary of being released.
No. Who is it?
You have to find someone that does spiritual tattoos or indigenous tattoos, and then they'll do it for you. They just sprinkle a little bit into the ink, and then... I think it's a beautiful thing.
It's a small amount. So I think I can't like... Well, we hope. I'm still here.
Mine's colored. Okay. Well, mine's blue.
And then we had... The ring with five promises.
Is that too much for you? Some men say pee.
Okay. Did you stay up for the ball drop? Yes.
That's a car wash.
Like groaning?
I will say newsflash for people doing things in movie theaters is they are cameras inside of the actual theaters.
So they can see everything you're doing.
Well, they might have. Well, no. Yeah, they probably had cameras back then.
Last three minutes.
We're not best friends.
Say more? What do you mean? Like shooting my shot?
I don't know if it's cholesterol is the marker.
Listen, it's an early season. You guys can come back.
Well, we're halfway through. Okay. We're halfway through the season.
What?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
oh my god i took a picture of my cat and he was yawning it looked like he was screaming and i wanted to put that in the in the instagram just pull up your browser it'll be the last thing on your browser no it's it's just my main screen and it goes to shopify you know what would really expose you it says it says november what's happening search history it just gives me the first
Once again. And thank God for it. Once again.
We have another person on our side.
I'll leave it up for interpretation. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
It is crazy. I never like I'd never heard of them, obviously, like I know of so many other family vloggers. But it's like watching. I saw some clips from the documentary and watching some of these clips. It just shows you like, honestly, what I feel like to be the truth of behind the scenes of every single one of these family vloggers who like make their children perform for the camera. Like I.E.
Ruby being like, who are you named after to her son? And he's like, my grandpa. And she's like, you say it with more like enthusiasm. Be happier when you say it. And he's like, I'm just not happy right now. And she's like, well, you better act like you are, you know, and it's like we're not going to do this if you're not. And then he's like, my grandpa. She's like, thank you.
You know, it's just crazy how. And I feel like that's every single family vlogger who has their kids doing a bit or dancing or whatever the hell it may be. It's so sad. I mean, I'm interested to watch, obviously. I think she's in prison for how long?
Her being like, oh, I'll just cut this out whenever I edit it on YouTube. It's like it reminds me so much of that. I don't even remember who and I think I might have talked about this before, but I don't remember who the YouTuber was, but it was like her and her. maybe like six-year-old son. And she's like talking about how her dog had died. Yeah. And she's like, we have to make a thumbnail.
Cry, cry. And she's like, put your hand over your eyes like you're crying. And he's like, I don't want to. Or he's like, I am crying or something. And she's like, no, but like make it look. Make it look like you're actually crying. I mean, it's just this, it's,
That's good. Did the dad, and this might be a spoiler, but did the dad ever go against his wife, Ruby, at any point?
I saw an interview where there was not an intimacy coordinator.
Yeah, there should have been someone there protecting me.
Well, Dylan Efron thinks showers are overrated.
You think Dylan's trying to be like a little bit more grimy because he's so pretty?
He said he was asked, he was like playing some little game and he was asked about something he finds overrated. And Dylan Efron said, I think people shower too much. We take way too many showers. I go in the pool a lot. Like there's chlorine. It's killing everything. We don't need to soap our bodies every time we're in the shower either.
It's Indy. But they both were like, it was like some intense sex scenes.
How did Amelia Perez win anything after?
Mm-hmm. Well, we had Vanita on last week to kind of clear up some of the JT and her rumors. And then we have this episode of Southern Charm that came out where we see a little like moment that was described differently by the both of them. And Vanita took to her Instagram to say, let me make something very clear.
And she kind of like calls out the editors for rearranging these like scenes and making it seem like she is a homewrecker, she says.
She said that the dinner JT and I had after I made a branzino was after the Bahamas, as y'all as an audience saw it before. So this week's episode is now making me look like I'm a homewrecker when I'm not. I know what I signed up for, but I also will not allow the world to think that I'm the woman when I'm not. Make sure you add this screenshot to all of the Reddit threads.
But this is about her being called a homewrecker. So it's a little bit more like...
Well, I think he probably left because everyone fucking hates him. That too. And he was like, I'm not.
But do you not feel like Dorit is like constantly kind of like nagging at Sutton to like get a reaction?
That's what I'm saying.
Sutton came out and said a producer told her to interrupt.
She's definitely playing messy and she's definitely like really dirty. And I'm I would love to see the other women at least not even they don't even have stand up for Dorit, but they can at least just be like Sutton. Like that was way too far. Not cool.
Can we get into some Love is Blind?
So do I. That's crazy.
When we were watching it, you were like, okay.
See, that's the thing.
He's not doing that, and he's blaming his friends and his sister of this, like, well, they keep bringing me new rumors, and they don't want me to marry someone who had a boyfriend so recently, and my sister doesn't approve of this, and my friends won't, and it's getting to the point where it's like you are choosing to believe your friends over your fiance in a place where at some point you have to say,
Like, and clearly he just didn't want to do this because he just didn't want to marry her. But it's like, he didn't even want to be like, okay, like I hear my, like he couldn't go to his friends and be like, guys, like,
How did she feel about the kiss with Halle Berry?
Well, that's his problem. It's his fault for not asking more questions in the pods because he did say like, how long ago were you with someone? And she told him. And if he didn't want to ask more questions and get more out of her, he wanted to like wait until his friends filled his ears with stuff. That's his own fault.
That's clear.
Well, wasn't it revenge?
But then it clearly like wasn't that big of a thing because later on when they all meet up at this like party and Molly talks to him and she's kind of like, what the fuck? Like, why did you do this? Why didn't you do that? And he goes back to talk to Lauren and it's kind of like, I want to try things with you. Like I...
I'd probably be like, I don't really know what they're referring to. I don't remember this iconic moment 22 years ago, so I don't know if it was as iconic as I think.
Yeah, I mean, listen, again, it's... So how was it such a big problem before and now it's not? To quote Gabby, they always come back. They always do.
I think it has nothing. I think it has nothing to do with your take. I think your take is your take because it's you and it's who you are. I think Dave's take is because he didn't want to marry her. And I think he's going to listen to this and I think he's going to use everything you say at the reunion. Like, I don't think he's thinking this way at fucking all.
I don't think it's really bothering him. I don't think it's really. I just think he was trying to get out of this marriage.
He's currently engaged and he's telling his sister like, yeah, we're not together. It's broken off.
The facts are still the facts. She still slept with him no matter what Molly said to him.
What did you think about Madison coming in with her pink hair and talking shit about Alex?
That was a crazy scene. She comes in guns a-blazing.
Shamey peg.
She comes in immediately throwing shots. Immediately is like, yeah, well, Meg was texting Alex before she even knew we could have been engaged. And she had no idea. And she was already up in his DMs.
Yeah, that's crazy. Her being like, he said, fuck Mason. I don't believe that for a second. Alex does not look like the person who would say, that's his best friend from the show. Like, no, fuck Mason.
Dave is just... Dave's just kind of lame.
Well, yeah. But also, yeah, I don't think I don't think Alex is that guy. And Madison is trying so hard. Like, I feel like the reunion is going to be so messy because she's going to come in and be insane.
That's why she was trying to talk shit about Meg like trying to reach out to Alex because it's like that's her trying again to like ruin that relationship with Mason.
Yeah. Like... Khakis and a golf polo.
I really did think the, like, the zoom-in was just a Southern thing. I've seen that, like, honestly, all over the churches in the South, and it is, like, a... It'll be, like, a big pastor from Texas, and he's, like, preaching to this small church. It's giving megachurch. You know? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I will say it was... But for your pastor? Sure. I will say it was kind of fucked up for them to give the men the... Bachelor party? What was the bachelor party?
Yeah, the Vikings. And the women was like, everyone dressed up like old people. Like...
Yeah.
They need to up that.
Yeah.
So perfect. Yeah, I would probably we would probably have maybe a little bit of a fight.
No, I like them together, too.
I think Taylor and Daniel say I do.
Yeah.
Really?
yeah definitely I'm like legs are shifted towards the door and window I'm looking at the window but what if Nick also won an Oscar that night then congrats but like what does that do for me it's Halle Berry though that's a flex for you like Halle Berry kissed my husband but they already kissed 10 years ago so it's like still a flex for me because like my boyfriend but he kissed her 20 years ago
Monica and Joey. Honestly, is that all of them? I think Devin and Virginia will. I want one person to leave the altar.
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I mean, I feel like I would still regardless be like, hey, I feel like maybe no.
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We're so happy to have you. This has been such a fun season. Good.
Maybe if he like told her like, hey, are you cool with this? Like me and Hallie are planning on like recreating this moment.
Now is on, yeah, it was an interesting run. Do you feel like where you and Sally are today is better than when you were filming? Or are you kind of like, I'm not investing in that relationship?
So did you, I guess, whenever you heard that Sally was joining the show, were you aware of her previous fling with your boyfriend Gaston?
Did he say anything about her in his five minute long speech?
I feel like we saw at so like y'all had this conversation. You heard she was going to be on the show off camera. You kind of meet up and you're like, or was this on camera?
And she was like, I wish nothing but the best for you two. And then on camera, she switches up and starts like talking a lot of shit about Gaston, talking some shit about you, saying Nick's like worst, the thing he hates the most that people say is nobody here likes you.
a huge bitch and a very, like, mama bear energy if someone tries to come for Nick, especially, like, in front of my face. So I honestly respect you so much for, like, keeping the peace as much as you did. I mean, to sit there, like, to have the whole, like, JT bring up this whole, like, Sally, like... What was that rumor again you brought up?
I mean, yeah.
I mean, I'm sure it, and I do see like the frustration on his end because it's like, you know, we weren't in that room. We know that there's editing, but like Craig swears by a lot of things that JT says, and then we don't have any of that proof. And Shep is also like corroborating me like I didn't hear any of that.
So where do you land on the whole like Patricia's a bitch and I Madison like wanted or Brett thought Madison and I were having an affair.
She was running late this morning. She was like, I just got home. Oh, that's nice. Okay, can't wait to leave you in the hands of... So everyone's got enough time right now.
Okay.
Have you seen Sienna going live or all the TikTok she's posting, like trying to expose the truth about her time on the show and her relationship with Chef?
Truly. Understandably. Yeah, it's just you not knowing the, like, details of it and just assuming of, like, who you know Shep to be.
Guy Fieri.
Guy Fieri is, like, where everyone's going.
Apparently he used to be married to Madonna.
Guy Ritchie.
Guy Ritchie. Oh.
Would you support him and Molly or are you kind of like, I don't want Molly to get involved with that?
Yeah.
And also having someone like Sally who wants to be you attack your current relationship. Like, is it worth going through that again?
Oh. Like shut down the dance floor.
Risen up.
I mean, I do think it is hard because it's like Austin's ex-girlfriend who could be his current girlfriend's like brother's sister's friend heard. And it's like, okay. Are Emmy and Will at the reunion? Will doesn't show up.
You also have your brand. Go ahead. I know.
I definitely don't need like extra things in my mouth when I'm trying to like do a PJ. Like I don't need to like...
No, that's just extra things. I have to like peanut butter. So sticky. You know how long that's in your mouth for? Like you're like, yeah, it's like constantly.
Do we see marriage with Gaston? Nialla, do you want to answer that? Yeah.
There is some speculation about Sally and Craig. Obviously, they were, like, seen at Nobu or something in New York. Like... And then I took it as like, oh, it's two coworkers in the same place. And then she went on Watch What Happens Live and was asked about it and played really coy and was kind of like, we had a chaperone.
It definitely is.
Oh, okay.
Well, we were out of town this past weekend and I got a pinched nerve in my back. Oof. Terrible. Awful. I've never had one before. It was the worst thing I've ever experienced. And it's because... You're getting closer to 30. Yeah, I'm getting closer to 30. I'm getting old, everybody. I'm getting old. Yikes. So no, it's because we didn't bring a crib for River.
What was your reaction to seeing Shep, of all people, have a comment on Gaston's appearance?
Yeah.
It's a jarring difference.
Tom is great television. He is. But I mean, Gabby is also made for television and she's.
Yeah, she is.
So she slept in the bed with us and she sleeps like a crazy person. Like, no, literally spread starfish, like legs up, legs down, head in the back. It's the crazy. Yeah. So I had and I'm not exaggerating, maybe three inches of space on that bed. And the entire night I'm like straining to not fall off the bed, you know, so I'm like tightening every muscle to like stay on the bed.
We'll see what's in the cards. I feel like it's a safer space for you. You know, like,
Yeah, you don't have to be working. You can just be like there. Grace Lilly? Yeah.
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I don't.
Yeah. I mean, I would, too, after everything. It's Sally's done, you know.
The chemistry between Zoe and Grant is the most... the hardest thing to watch. There's absolutely nothing there. I mean, that date was brutal.
I guess just like the photo shoot. Everything was just like so hard to watch, like not like neither of them looked like they really were like into each other.
He also didn't give her a one-on-one.
No, I look over at Nick and he's like, he forgets that it's a king size bed and he could be on the complete other side. And I wouldn't even know he's there, but no, he's right up under me as well. So the next morning I am like bending down to get river or changing her diaper, doing something like, and I twist and it's over for me.
The fact that he's saying right now, I like Zoe a lot at hometowns is a wild statement to say.
Traditional. And she was saying how like, this isn't, you know, they don't approve of the fact that like you're dating 25 other women. So I think it definitely had to do with like that.
So then I tell Nick, I'm like, I've, I've pinched a nerve in my back. Like seriously. And the river keeps, I keep having to like bend down to pick river up. And he's like, well, first of all, you shouldn't be bending. You should be squatting. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you getting right now? He's like, you, it's like rule number one, you squat. And I'm like, sure.
I definitely thought she was going to go farther than Zoe. So that was shocking to me.
But her family was like, we don't care. As long as you're like a man of God, which he is. He says faith is important to him. They're like, that's all we care. They're like, you don't have to be a Mormon to be in our family.
Wyoming.
She looks like a siren.
She looks like she's created by AI. Yeah.
But this, this has nothing to do with my form right now.
Gotta start squatting. You cannot bend. Rule number one. Don't do that. So helpful.
That's who I think too. I'm standing by Latia.
I mean, I can see why he's so torn in the preview where he's like, I can see why.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, Maddie Pruitt did it too, you know, and stuff.
And they checked out River.
I also wouldn't want that.
It usually happens.
But she's putting her expectations up front. Yeah. And Dave and Lauren did not have that...
Actually. What was going on with the whole Kyle rage texting page?
I mean, I wonder what she said actually to Kyle. I hope that it was this exact response.
And I was like, I couldn't hang. I'm guessing he's the one who's like in this threesome that apparently happens. I think he has to be.
He had a great run.
Yeah. I'm not done yet.
Oh, yeah. When she was like, I think that you're like not as. Oh, I think you're really smart. Yeah, I think you're really smart.
No one ever said that.
We find out if Brittany voted for Danielle or Ivor. What do we think?
That too.
But then we find out whoever this like seer is and like whoever got the most points, which I feel like is Danielle because she got the like 2000 points here. Everyone else kind of lost points. She did the whole gold thing. Like, I think she's got to be this year. And if she goes home, then maybe they would just pass it down to the next person with the most. But.
That's true.
I do think it's one thing to, like, yeah, go to, like, get a lunch at an Air One or a Whole Foods and do, like, the hot bar, but if you're at a restaurant that serves you, like, you have your own waiter.
Like, you can order a burger, but you, like, choose...
The amount of times he's like, I'm going to order a shrimp cocktail. And then as soon as it hits the table, he's like, this is not going to be good.
Is Drake getting canceled or something?
Yeah.
Yeah, thank you.
Same.
Yeah, 100 percent is going to be triggering for you, Mary. I don't, honestly, Jenna Lyons. I don't get it.
Amazing.
We gave it some color.
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They all kind of look short.
Is it Nicholas or Nichols?
No, I kind of like him. Not subscribing to social norms. Yes. Look at him. Love.
I haven't eaten candy since 2024.
But these guys are like model models.
Salesforce gave me some time.
What are you trying to say?
She's going to be leading it. She's like, hey guys, I do curls.
Easy.
Northville. Yeah, he's hot. Is that Michigan or Missouri? What's MI?
Michigan.
Floridian.
Bella A?
Bella.
Oh.
That's a big thing.
How short is short?
Well, the internet is a big place.
The original cast. I mean, we don't know who the bombshells are going to be. I'm a little surprised that they didn't cast any, like, a la Rob. You know how Rob was a bombshell from a previous season, and that seemed to really pop.
Well, Rob was part of the original cast of last season.
Yeah.
yeah but like a bombshell that's what i'm saying rob was a bombshell and then they moved him into the original cast like there's no point in bringing a bombshell back to be a bombshell again you think you think rob's going back no no no no but rob was casa more and he was brought in and then in the og cast but i could see them bringing in like the first round bombshell as somebody we've seen what's a bombshell or cast member from a previous season that you would love to see someone from last season maybe
No, he was OG cast. Okay, so he was OG. He was a bombshell.
No, it's June 3rd.
I just like wondering what they're doing because it's in real time.
Oh my God, they're sleeping.
It sucks coming back. Going there, not so bad. No. Coming back is brutal.
Yeah, that's like Japan. Exactly.
Yeah, the Virgin Islands are like right there. That's true. And Cabo from LA.
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Tough watch for all you people who ride hard for the ladies of this cast.
It was rough. And well, and then on the fans, the supporters, the alleged toxic people on TikTok, their version is this is Lexi's fault because it's like they their their explanation is they clearly don't like Lexi. It's just like, well, yeah, we we get it.
And why does this cast seem to decide who can't and can't talk to press or do podcasts? Like, well, they say it so condescendingly, like on your press tour, they act as they have these rules for their cast. I mean, again, we... You have a you have a young woman who came on not knowing anyone on this cast, a newbie younger than all these people knew.
I haven't had any sugar.
And like, again, I don't like I think the whole girl's girl, as Katie Maloney mentioned earlier, is the dumbest shit ever. As if like it's like it's just a dumb saying.
So how do you know what her focus was walking in the house? She walked in the house and met a guy she was attracted to and started liking him. And is that that's a crime?
What is the definition of a girl's girl?
Same. Same. And again, I'm a judgy motherfucker. I keep my circles small. I am loyal to my small group of friends. Just own that. Just own the fact that they are a clicky group that doesn't fuck with most people. And if you're not one of us, we're not going to... Fine. Don't all season long self-identify yourself as usually for the girlies.
Leaning into the sexual chemistry of your platonic friendship is the most... While your friend is pursuing a relationship with someone else, someone who is in the same industry as you, who many people could see as someone you might want to compete with subconsciously, is the most pick-me energy ever. How can anyone disagree with that? And that's fine. And listen, I've been a pick-me before.
I've done things for attention, but it's just the way... They all act as if they are incapable of that type of behavior. And they're so critical of other people who give that type of behavior.
Simple sugars.
The stuff that will kill you and give you diabetes. Oh my God.
What I love about Paige is that she thinks she's better than most people and she backs it up. I just would like her to own that aspect a little more often.
I get why they want to be friends with them. I get why they're this more like, you know what? We need a couple of fun guys in our group and we already have hot women. And like, we don't need a young girl who's still figuring herself. Lexi. So like us seven years ago, like we don't have time for, I get it. I think it's just mean girl.
I'm sure you've heard that before. Yeah, for all the people. Oh, there's sugar in oranges. It's like, yeah.
But it's just like Sierra acting as if Lexi has no reason to be upset is the most delusional thing I've seen given just how she's the fact that we still talked about her and Wes a year fucking later. Yeah, it's crazy. It was honestly fascinating, though. Sierra talking about her family dynamic and talking about her mom and how her mom.
And also we need sugar to live, but.
is per Sierra's POV, like has a history of dating men unworthy of her. And it just seemed kind of ironic.
I totally felt for her.
And she was like, yeah, but her answer was, yeah, that's why I'm more. Sierra sees herself as incredibly picky and, and like has high standard. The men she dates suggests otherwise.
We told you we need sugar to live.
Well, again, sure.
Oh, it's so silly.
Your job's on the line.
It's just that Lexi showed up. We didn't know anything about her before she got casted.
Lexi is this young woman who demonstrates the type of qualities that all these women should want to get behind. She is poised. She seems to know her self-worth. She speaks up for herself. She has a strong will. She came on our show and conducted herself wonderfully. She's been gracious. She doesn't seem to be all that messy. She speaks her truth. She'll stand up for herself. I don't think that's
What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, and boy, do we have a fun episode lined up for you today. Later this episode, the star... What? Is she here? Oh my God, she made it.
messy and it's just the fact that those qualities are the qualities that these women seem to dislike i just find to be fascinating and kind of hypocritical like it's just such an eye roll for them to like identify themselves as a girl's girl When they're more, pick me. I do believe Craig never bought that engagement ring. Craig definitely never bought that engagement ring.
I absolutely believe Paige there.
Even when she said the whole, like, you took your girlfriend to return my ring, I was like, well, you know... Well, also, like, when you get broken up with, you know, maybe there's not an engagement ring on the line, but that's a very common thing to be like, well, I guess I should just return this thing I got you, you know? Like...
That happens all the time in a breakup.
I wouldn't put it past Craig to find a jeweler to corroborate his story, even if it was made up.
He's a storyteller.
I just find what's fascinating about Summer House is that, again, I would say Lexi, West, and Jessie, they represent what Summer House is supposed to be. And honestly, everyone in this OG cast, you know, find a new job.
Yeah. That was crazy.
They basically casted three new people because they felt like they didn't want to do their jobs anymore and they decided to be a bunch of dicks to this new cast. That was the theme of the season. It's just like, we're going to cast a bunch of people we're not friends with and use them and throw them out like trash when we're done with them.
Five? What were you doing?
The original cast, they casted Emeril, Lexi, and Bailey. And they used them. They used them for the stuff they weren't willing to do and threw them to the wayside.
The OG cast. This group of people.
Well, Amanda, like we know Amanda, like Perlexi was the one who was like, hey, do you want to come on the show? I guess Kyle is the one who knew Emeril. Like they found, you know, they found these people and asked him, hey, do you want to be a part of this show? With no real interest in becoming friends with these people or connecting with these people.
And then went out?
I mean, if I watch next season and Sierra is still complaining about Wes, I'm turning it off.
But we did talk about it all season. I'm just, are you convinced it's not going to happen?
Progress. Anything else before we want to move on to Brianne?
I dressed for our next interview.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm giving, I'm giving like, I'm giving, it's after Memorial Day and I'm ready for summer pants.
Exactly.
And that's why I'm wearing white pants.
Anyway, Bree Ann Howey is up next, the star of Ginny in Georgia. Bree Ann Howey, who we get to chat with. She is a very talented actress who does an incredible Southern accent. So incredible that I really... I was kind of a bit taken back when I realized that was a fake accent. Anyways, she is also just a great person. And we can talk to her about motherhood, her acting career, how it's blown up.
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Yeah.
In like an unsuspected badass lead that she plays who's a little messy.
You know? Like an anti-hero.
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Brianne, welcome.
How are you?
Yeah, we're so excited. Been big fans, huge fans of Ginny and Georgia.
It's such a fascinating show because the character you play is so dynamic. Sure is. First of all, as a young mother yourself, it's a kind of weird question. People often ask, how do you relate to your character? I imagine a lot of ways you don't relate to your character.
So one thing I was curious about, because like, obviously, well, we're hoping you don't relate much to your character. But, you know, as a new parent myself, there is like, and maybe it's a dad thing. I imagine now, you know, Natalie has some real like impressive, like mama line energy, you know, very protective of her family.
And I wondered if like, while you don't obviously relate to some of of georgia's antics there must be an element of like the way she goes about protecting her family and surviving in a way that obviously as a good human being you would never do but is there is there ever an element when you're playing the character where you at least appreciate her resiliency and just like how she's
You know, she really will, at the end of the day, protect her family.
No, I think before. Yeah, we're parents. It's very easy to like talk about what you would never do when you see other parents crossing boundaries and you're in it. You're just like, well.
I imagine when you go into season one, obviously the acting space is highly competitive and I think you're always as happy to book the job, right?
And then you get picked up for a season two. And I'm sure you have utmost respect for the writers in the room and things like that. But as a character on the show, as a season matures, is there a balance between the writers going to you and getting your input about the character? Or are you very much like, hey, that's their lane. I'll stay in mine. How does that dynamic work as a show matures?
You look great. And we have a great episode. Dana and Katie from Disrespectfully are here with us today because the cast of Love Island has just been released. And since they're best friends with the host, we figured why not come in and let's Talk about the new cast members. We also have Brianne Howey with us this episode, the star of Ginny in Georgia, which premieres this Thursday on Netflix.
How did you prepare to play a character like Georgia?
Now that George is in court, I read, are you a fan of true crime? Sure am. Were you able to pull from any, like, court cases that you followed or just try to, like, emulate, again, just, like... Well, I know, right?
Now he's huge.
She introduced me to it like the other day.
First, I was totally on her side. First, I was like, oh, no, like I've definitely seen it departed. These cops are crooked. She definitely didn't do it. But then the more I watched, I'm just like, I know.
Watching the trailer, it kind of reminded me a little Karen Reid a little bit, where it's just like this very likable, very charming defendant who you want to believe her...
I feel like it's a show all of you people listening watch, you know. She's a complicated character. A mom, you know, who overcomes adversity.
Like who's your body language, how you're being perceived. Totally. There's so many subtleties.
And I learned that being on reality TV where you're like, oh, my God, like when there's a camera on you 24 seven, just like picking up every little cork that you have or just like your resting face and just how like unfortunate that can be and how useful it is to an editor. You're just like, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I guess for better or worse, my gift was always just, I guess, being like, oh, this is who I am. I don't know. Like, it's something I can do about it. But it was just more eye-opening. Yeah. You know, like, I suppose as an actor, you get used to seeing yourself on camera playing a role. But before that, I just was like, I wouldn't listen to myself on a voicemail recording.
It was such a weird thing. And then now I'm watching it back. It made me like, oh my, I've never met this person. Like, oh my, ew.
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Not afraid to speak her mind. Stand her ground. Well, Brienne is with us, and we have a great conversation with her later this episode. Also, we'll get into the first reunion part one of Summer House. You guys don't watch Summer House, do you?
Well, there is something about you mentioned, you know, Walter and like there's the antihero. There's something about those types of characters that we love because we may not be Georgia. We may not be Walter, but we all are imperfect people who are.
Do things that we're not proud of, but we want to believe that we're noble, good people. And for the most part, we are. And I think sometimes watching those complicated characters that we still want to root for, there's something to relate to, even though maybe we're not relating to them.
We love a good meet cute story. How did you meet your husband?
I got into it with Sierra on Vow Files Plus. I am just over this group of women calling themselves Girls Girls.
That's the thing about the Internet. Sometimes you really got to be careful whether it's getting your Karen Reid news or or like parenting advice, because like anything can sound good if worded correctly. Exactly.
Thank you. Oh my God. I truly did it. I consider myself a girl's girl unless I don't like you.
As a second oldest of 11, I grew up watching a lot of Disney programming, and then I haven't in quite some time. I've been rewatching a lot of old Disney movies. Is that something that you guys relate to? Have you found that any of them don't hold up?
I watched Aladdin for the first time in a while. And I was like, I feel too adult. But I watched Frozen for the first time. Really enjoyed that.
Well, you know, like the sister bond, I was really charmed by that. And it like made me really want to, you know, a sister forever. I was, it's movies, movies get me, you know, I did read, what is it? What was that headline somewhere? Like people who cry in movies are apparently smarter or something.
No, it's in the group chat.
That's this group of women.
It's evidence from the people who do it.
Did you enjoy when you met Matt, like the fact that he wasn't in entertainment?
It keeps you grounded in a way?
You have an amazing accent in Georgia. Is that something you had to develop or were you always really good at that type of accent?
Yeah, and I say this as someone who hates people. I don't like people. I like my people. And it's just like this cast is like the leading charge of the self-identified
Is that fun to do? Like, for me, I'm so bad at accents. It would just be, like, such a... It would take up so much brain capacity.
As someone who works very much in the industry, have you found it to be like wonderfully like relatable and charming? Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you been able to interact with a lot of executives? Because I feel like what's cool about this show is they do humanize a character in Hollywood that we often don't talk about or get access to. So much so, I love the Golden Globes episode.
It's so relatable. Yeah.
I mean, what is something, if let's say your daughter decided to get into entertainment, you know, like you're someone who's made a whole career out of it. I don't know you that well, but just gotten to know you. You seem like a really grounded, like, you know, normal, cool person.
And I imagine like any parent like yourself who's in entertainment, whose initial thought is, I don't know if I want my child to do that, is that fear of just kind of how DeLulu like Hollywood can be and how out of touch it's easy to get to, you know, just because it is so... I don't know. It's so self-serving. Yeah, it's a bubble.
And like it's, you know, so what do you think has allowed you to stay grounded, to be, you know, a very relatable, normal person all while also being incredibly successful in this space? Oh, well, thank you.
Wait, so one of the stars of Next Gen was involved in this, like, crypto kidnapping thing? What? Charlie Zakora?
I mean, that's a good point. I mean, I think, you know, for me, I, you know, I didn't go on reality TV until I was in my early 30s. A lot of my peers, it was like my early 20s. Yeah. And I'm honestly like really grateful for that because had I done that 10 years earlier... how I handled myself, I think would have been very different and a lot less healthy.
And I would have been a lot less resilient. And yeah, do you, you must feel like a little bit that's now that you look back, I'm sure there were times early in your career where you, you know, you compare yourself to someone else and you wish you got this and all you saw someone's like star rise faster than yours. But now you're,
that you're in the position that you're in, yeah, I imagine you've been able to almost feel like you've been able to both have this wonderfully cool, normal life and then fulfill your dreams at the same time.
That being said, do you feel like now, kind of you mentioned, is like, do you kind of feel like it's like, you know, it's like, now it's kind of getting my time. Things are pumping. Like, I don't know. Like, I think it's all kind of happening for me. Like, a little bit.
I know. I'm sorry. I'm just looking at the notes.
It is crazy, though.
Katie told me she likes to keep her love life private. We're respecting that.
They really do. Even just those moments, obviously complications aside can make moments like that traumatic and certainly memorable, but some of those life's
biggest moments you anticipate your whole life whether it was our wedding or the birth of our child you're like wait that just it's over it happened like it just goes so surreal because in your head you imagine it to like you think time's gonna slow down yeah you know you imagine there's gonna be like a marching band right you know and you're just like wait that was
What's your favorite Housewives franchise?
Have you been getting into the Valley?
It's just dark. It's also awesome.
It's just... You know, maybe it's as a new parent.
Just the one.
Yeah, it's, you know, as a fan of reality TV and being in this season of life, I really appreciate the Valley. It's sometimes a tough watch because you're like, we cover it. I've been a part of it. I don't think people, and as a host of the show, I don't think I don't think fans of reality TV fully appreciate what reality stars are willing to do for our entertainment.
Never. And so, like, I I'm trying to find that balance between, you know, like, as you know, we love to critique and talk about it and use it as like a launching pad for conversations about our lives, you know. It's it's easy to be critical, especially like their willingness to show things that you're like, I don't know. I just just seems a little wrong.
But at the same time, I'm just like, oh, my God, thank God people are willing to judge them because they're doing a great service.
There's a little fantasy to it.
It's relatively, it's not as toxic. I mean, you know, there's... Do you guys do Southern Charm? Yes. Yeah, we do it all.
I was very impressed. Wow. I was like, good for you, Craig.
It was like a weekday, so it wasn't like a high traffic day.
What was your intro to reality TV?
That's one show I've never seen, Survivor.
Like that person was acting and that was great. And with reality TV, there's certainly moments where I'm either like kind of rolling my eyes because it feels a bit forced or staged. I think reality TV in the past used to get away with professional wrestling where they used to pretend it was real.
You know, and reality TV used to be like, no, this is... You know, when I was on The Bachelor, they had me go knock on our room. And so they'd had me, like, go to the hotel and get the key. And then I had fans being like, why is that person giving them the key? It's just like, I had a camera.
And I think now fans are...
more educated about how reality tv is made and sometimes i get frustrated that networks aren't like keeping up with how intelligent fans are getting and i wish they would like break the fourth wall a little bit more because like we all know rather than pretending that like like the fake therapy on bravo just always gets me yeah it's just like come on yeah you know with our couples therapists or like life coach or something and it's
Well, Brianne, before we let you go, I want to play the trailer for season three so the fans can get a little bit of a sneak peek and see what to look forward to from the next season of Ginny and Georgia.
First to be murdered is life without the possibility of parole.
Yeah, physical touch isn't, like, good for your lower lumbar, I don't think. No.
I want to protect you from all this.
You really looked like a badass walking into that courtroom. You did. I was like, oh, period.
As will I. Well, anyways, are you guys, this Next Gen Bravo show does look interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was like, I'm pretty sure this isn't her real voice.
Well, congratulations. Obviously we're very excited about it. It's a great show and I'm excited for people to watch season three and come back again.
Well, I just want to thank you to our guests, Katie and Dana from Disrespectfully, as well as Bree and Howie. Tomorrow, don't forget, we have a Going Deeper with Dakota from the hit show Secret Lies of Mormon Wives. It's got over a billion streams. I mean, that show is crushing. That's like 100 million per episode. That's crazy. I'm three of them. Three mil?
Well, Dakota, obviously, some might consider a problematic character.
Complicated man. We get a little backstory, a little insight on his relationship with the star. We will see you tomorrow. Bye. Bye.
It's always fun to sound smart, even when you're not.
Well, we've never really dived into reality TV nepotism.
And this is like a first.
Meredith's son. I've never met him. He seems like a classy guy.
Who is Charlie Zakour? Am I pronouncing that right? Probably not. Zakour?
Who is he the kid of?
Well, this guy apparently witnessed some sort of like crypto attempted kidnapping. Anyways.
Have you been following the Sherry Papini case at all? I just, since my wife has become a true crime junkie.
She's like the real life gone girl who faked her kidnapping.
There's a new documentary out on Max. And there was a documentary on Hulu that seemed to be, they call it like Keith, her, I guess now ex-husband. It was like his version. Now it's like her version. We just finished it.
Stop or start at any time.
I think she should be acquitted. I think the state has done a terrible job of proving her innocence. I think these cops
Well, have have done some poor police work and maybe even have some corruption. I still don't think that means she didn't do it. And I think two things can be true at the same time. And the story of her innocence is far less believable.
Too many things have to come together for this conspiracy, as opposed to like she got drunk, accidentally hit her ex-husband and like boyfriend or boyfriend and killed him.
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But that's still more believable than why would these people kill him?
And everyone, including the kids, have all stuck to their story.
yes there was a lot of what are you talking about he got off because they were able to prove all the shitty police work that like did or didn't happen and all like my point is like bad police work doesn't prove someone's innocence yeah but bad police work can also prove someone to be guilty when they're not
See, I think the opposite. I think it's more fun to believe her innocence because that's the most more salacious story. It's more salacious to think a bunch of cops are colluding. We've all had a bad experience, whether it's just a pull over or a cop is rude to us. Like, you know, it's just it's more fun to believe.
Anyway, the new cast of Love Island is upon us. Have you seen these people?
It's very season six coded.
They're like, who is our... P.P.G. Leah. Leah. Who is our... Cordell. Cordell.
Who is our Kendall?
That was a different one.
All right. We got Jeremiah Brown. Sexy.
Do they have like bios? Do they have like fun facts or anything?
I feel like only like mega church pastors were true religion genes these days.
Yeah, 90s fashion is on its way back.
I like to watch it unfold.
Is this our quiet, mysterious guy?
She sang the Cardigans' classic Love Fool.
Doesn't the parade also, it's like two hours long, so I feel like these songs are on a loop. over and over again for wherever people are sitting to watch it. So of course it's going to be lip synced. Imagine singing the same song.
I think there's like one part where it's like filmed for TV. But like for the most part, they go through the parade route and you're hearing the same songs.
Exactly.
Has it never happened? No.
It's not that serious.
But I'm happy for Joey because he seems like he really loved dancing when he came here and how he's like, I want to continue to dance even after I'm off the show.
Oh, that's not where I thought this was going. Where did you think it was going? I thought you were like, I don't look like that anymore in like a good way. Not like a... No, no, no.
Did you give up your cookies?
Aren't you an Oreo man?
Why is that?
Men know her from Michael Bay. Originally, you guys know her from Pitch Perfect.
I love myself. He loves music from a certain time period. I love it. It's on the same playlist.
He said no attachment issues here.
But to kind of, sorry, to piggyback off of Justin, though, where I'm like, is it possible that maybe in a fit of rage or being upset, and it's Haley Steinfeld, the whole thing, that maybe she wrote something out and then like all of a sudden got flooded with all of these death threats and whatnot and was like, I got hacked?
Because we're not really hearing a lot of celebrity accounts getting hacked.
I think it's Miami.
Bronwyn's being messy. I was going to say, but Heather did the exact same thing to Bronwyn. So then I was like, was it a little play? Like a little cheeky?
It's a different breed.
Sam, I also think that it's like from like a Housewives Bravo background. It's like you're filming more of like a docuseries of day in the life kind of where I'm like people going on Survivor. It's like their program to be strategic and to make moves. So then it's like the Housewives and Bravo people are like, whoa, you guys are crazy. You said this, but then you meant this.
And it's like, no, that's part of the game. Whereas like Summer House, you're supposed to find the person that's lying to you or out them or whatever.
You can't say it.
His girlfriend left a comment on it, too, saying that, like, She was trying to get signage for the center because where it's located is in a corner, in a back corner, back alleyway of Franklin Village. Yeah. So if there's no sign, you don't know that it's there. And if you're not a fan of the show, you don't know it's there.
Yeah. It would be a lot different. She was blaming the owners or whoever else, part owners of Schwartz and Sandy, saying that if they would have just let her buy the signage with her own money, it would have done well. She is such a hero. She really is.
He's got to figure out where he fits.
Well, it also shows how crazy people are because there was the whole idea of a crossover between Vanessa and Jessica. And then Kristen's like, I was here. It happened.
Could you imagine the opening scene of the first episode is just her having everybody come in and be like, all right, so you're fired?
Oh, you know that's why she's doing it. She's got to give herself a bigger role because this last cast has pushed her out.
Location.
But are they actually friends? And like, are they also pursuing other things than just to be on Vanderpump World?
Right. And the beauty of the first two seasons is that they're all aspiring actresses, musicians, models. Yeah. So it's like we get to see the delusion of Hollywood. That they were on TV.
I think she's just not going to let that contract, let that money go, you know? So we're going to see what happens. And hopefully, hopefully it is good. And it's still called Vanderpump Rules or is it Vander, it's still.
That's what I'm saying. Like, are we starting at season one or are we going to call this season 13?
Peter will come in as the elder. Whatever happened to Peter's streaming service? Remember he was going to start his own Bachelor show?
Yeah, he had his own Roku channel or something. We haven't heard of it, so I'm assuming... It went with everyone else's dreams.
Right. I'll have an update for you next week.
Congratulations, Kristen Doty.
And she was like, well, I am pregnant. Well, I have a secure job and I have a baby.
Oh, I'm so happy for her. It's an incredible coincidence.
They were like the big drama at the end of the season and now we're like, don't even care. So much going on. So much going on. I can't wait. It's very exciting. So that's kind of also what I'm hoping for the new season of Vanderpump. Because remember, we were all like, I don't know about the valley.
Oh.
Fighting for her spot because Lala, Sheena are coming.
She might be kicked to the curb.
Yeah. Also speaking of crazy drama, another season, Mom Talk.
Can we set up a can, perhaps?
Yeah.
Even dad talk is falling apart. Actually, I do really enjoy Brett, Should we join mom and dad talk like just from afar?
Wait, can you just like splice the screen and just like do whatever they're doing in their dad talks?
Potentially.
Just kidding, us weekly.
Found her voice.
It's like you spilled tequila on her. Her outfit's probably $20,000 and she's like, great.
Discrediting our entire friendship.
Oh, yeah. I'm team Dorit the whole way, and I've never really been the biggest fan of Dorit, and she has won me over in two episodes. Ooh.
Even the first episode, I was like, okay, don't back down.
But I love that she provided something that wasn't, like, a booty. You know what I mean? She was like, here's some lovely slippers for you guys.
Shoes off, but my boyfriend still wears them inside and I find them in random places and it drives me nuts.
The Chanel mules. Also, she has such a way of talking about herself that like doesn't seem conceited, but like she's just very self-assured because even when she was like, if I had a. She can back it up. Yeah, exactly.
Well, I am a millionaire, but like, you know, and it's not like this like inferiority thing where you're like, OK, like. that makes me feel terrible about myself. It's like, no, I want to be you when I grow up.
Yeah.
But her name does mean goddess, and I also feel like there's something in a name where I'm like, oh, she's living up to it. You know what I mean? The way that she just, it's just, I'm obsessed with her.
the way I'm dying to know now.
No. Are we on the La La Train?
To north?
Yes. Northwest. Northwest.
I also, I mean, I know that Kyle didn't appreciate it, but I like that she was so sisterly and just being like, and those pictures.
Look at my new girlfriend.
I will say the timeline is a little confusing because the opening of the first episode was very much like, Moe's been out of the house.
The debrief.
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Vicky, you're in Mexico.
If given the offer, would you come back as a full-time cast member to the next season of Orange County Housewives? I don't know.
Did you have any thoughts on the Jen Pedranti-Ryan relationship, the FBI storyline? I love Jen.
Yeah.
That was the best thing I've ever experienced.
She commented back.
I will say, I think that that was, like, my first, like, oh, interesting moment. The same, yeah.
She would have popped off. For sure. For sure. Because Heather doesn't like Bronwyn. Exactly. So she's going to pick Whitney. Because to be fair, when Bronwyn called out Whitney and Angie, like she was being honest. Like they did say these things about Lisa and then they're like, did I ever say the verbatim words that she fucked me over?
Like, no, but you did say that if she gets close to you, she will do something to get back at you if you upset her. So just because you didn't use the right terminology.
Heather still hasn't fully forgiven her for the lack of invitation at Palm Springs. So it's like at the same time. And I think that Bronwyn was right when she was like, you will find anything. If I apologize for this, you're going to find something else to be mad at me about. Mm hmm.
Or like bowing down to the OG Heather altar.
Step in line.
And I have so much sympathy for Mary, because I'm like, this is just so true to the idea of you never know what somebody's going through. And Mary says so many things that are so out of pocket, but I'm like, you're not angry at Meredith anymore.
you're not angry at Heather you're angry about what's happening at home and now that we've gotten to see a little bit of that it's like I do have like empathy for what she's going through I don't think she's handling it well but at the same time she's also not talking about it to anyone so nobody knows exactly what she's going through but I will say she just would not let up. Lisa, you're a liar.
yeah but meredith asked in a way i know i know yeah meredith asked like you're an hour late like something's going on like what's your like glam late or something it was and you can kind of tell even mary was like kind of like a glimmer of like you mean with me or like you know what i mean she was like kind of like hoping that this was the time that you do see me and then it was like well you're an hour late and she was like all right well i'm not fucking doing this we're just like off camera when they're not filming at any point any of these women could have a conversation with mary and been like hey what's going on babe like how are you happy what's going on like how's life how are the kids you know how's the
Not martyr, but like, I do care. Like, clearly something. It can't be just me. But then I'm also not going to ask her about it. I'm not going to actually dive into it. But I'm just going to let everybody know that the way that she's treating me is not right. And it has to be due to her having problems elsewhere.
But also how heartbreaking Mary's conversation with her son. I was really sobbing. I mean, I had a feeling too that I was like, I was surprised that they, how forthcoming the son was, but I'm also like, talk about an honest conversation, you know?
Yeah. I don't think there's an easy way to deal with addiction. And I'm like, clearly she doesn't know what else to do. And Junior's been on the show the whole time in passing and whatnot. And we've never seen anything to the extent of what we did the beginning of this season. So I'm sure she just got to her end being like, I don't know. He won't come out of the room.
He wasn't talking to me, him and his wife, like the whole situation that I'm like, it may be if it's on a public forum, I can actually get resources and help or somebody can like has been through this before.
A thousand percent.
The holding of the finger.
Have you ever gone to a Broadway show?
One? Did you like it or could you appreciate the talent of it?
This is probably the closest equivalent to watching an actual musical as a movie.
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Well, it was the day that I had my DNC procedure, so I was not able to make it in the studio. Unfortunately, I wish I could have been called dude a couple more times, but, you know.
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Well, I'll have to watch it back and I'll give you my thoughts on Thursday.
Okie dokie.
I do respect you so much for just coming on the show after hearing us being very critical of you, which is rare in this business. There's a lot of people who are like, fuck that podcast. Fuck those people. They said I was a fuck boy. And it really hurts their feelings to the point where they won't call in.
It was hard to get Grant to talk about anything other than Ashley's TikToks. I'll be honest with you. He was very steadfast on her posting TikToks.
I will say the things that you think people are going to care about, they don't care about.
He was like, yes, I know I cheated, but did you see the TikToks? But you posted a mean TikTok of me.
Also, Nick and I do say that all the time of like, we work so hard on our relationship. And I think that's like why we're, you know, almost to year five is just like you wake up every day and you choose each other and you do the work and it's not easy. And it, you know, some days are easy, but a lot of the days aren't. And it's like, you just got to communicate, choose that person every day.
Thank you. Thank you.
But yeah, that was a... I will say, I don't think Grant was the biggest fan of me after that interview. I don't know if it was my question about his daughter or if it was me challenging him on Ashley's TikToks, but he did not want a photo with me and he did not want to say goodbye to me.
Thank you.
It was pretty great, I got to say. I think he's mad at me.
Thank you. Thank you.
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It's like you don't put your suitcase on your bed to pack your clothes. It's been under a plane. It's been thrown on the ground. It's been on the dirtiest surfaces ever and you're going to lay it on your bed?
It's like when Nick gets in the bed with his outside clothes on, you don't do it. You don't do it.
I'm like, get naked. Like, why are your clothes that have been like sitting on a chair?
If I got home, no, if I got home and I was like, oh my God, I need to like lay down. This is coming off. These are coming off. I'm putting on a robe. I'm putting on sweatpants. I'm putting on something and getting under the cover. I would never, ever, ever put clothes that have been on the outside world in my sheets.
He wants you to read that tag on the back of those pants and give him the label.
Simple.
Because, you know, it makes sense. Like, sure. If like he got his toe sucked, he would take off one sock.
Right. Why were both socks off? And if you like did something where you would have, I don't know, taken all your clothes off, you wouldn't you would just like put your pants on and your T-shirt on and walk out.
Yeah.
I don't think I, yeah, if you're in a room with two naked women and like watching them, and he literally said, oh, I'm hard now.
Also, he didn't sit in the corner.
While you find that, I will say they were teasing this threesome all fucking year long, being like, and a threesome happens on Summer House.
There was a lot of jaw-dropping moments. I was definitely very like, at multiple times. So if you haven't watched or listened to that episode, you very much should.
I will say, the summer house parties are the only parties in reality television that actually look fun.
Yeah. What did you think of the impersonations, the mocking?
I don't think there's ever a time in which you can like impersonate someone where they're like, really? That's how I sound.
It is so true when Dorit said Sutton condition and she cannot take it. It's so true. The fact that she could sit at that table and give that wallet sentence and then for them to be like, hey, so you're not really nice and she's freaking out and she can't. It is wild how some people are built like that.
No, what is going on with Chapel Roan? Oh, we won't start there.
I do think they got some backlash, her and Erica, when they were on Watch What Happens Live together. A lot of the response was like, this is very mean girl. They did not come off very well.
Chapel Roan says that she doesn't know anyone who is happy with children. Go ahead. She says they're all in hell.
So calling her LaToya Jackson was the shadiest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. And I cannot believe that they just like moved faster.
Are you team Portia when it comes to the Drew stuff?
But it does make sense. Like, Portia's only line is, like, do not film with him.
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If there's anything I've learned so far this year, it's that small habits make a huge difference.
They make staying healthy way easier and, dare I say, kind of fun. Nick and I actually get excited to take their liposomal vitamin C and magnesium L3 in eight packets because they come in these little tiny packets you can throw in your purse. You can throw in a gym bag, leave them in your car, whatever, and you just shoot them. They're so easy and they taste good.
I mean, would you?
I do feel like her friends are probably like, what the fuck, bitch? I'm not in hell. I'm not miserable. No, I love my kids. Please don't put that out there.
Oh, I ran into him at a bar and he did this to me or he did that. He didn't hold the door for me. I remember a few of those came after Nick, you know, he slammed the door in my face. Oh my God.
pop stars young women pop stars you know what I mean I enjoy it and I think people are really get real weird about her really quick and I don't understand I can't imagine if someone looked at Chapel and was like oh my god you're so miserable you're definitely like in hell right now like and said all of the things that she said about mothers to her I think she would handle that very terribly
Thanks, guys.
Bye, y'all. All right, bye-bye. Bye.
Listen, it's got to be hard. I totally get where she's coming from. Totally. Of like, yeah, people don't want to be my friend right now. It's like they feel like they have to choose sides and they're choosing.
It's tough. I hope they figure it out. I hope, you know, they can work through that because it's I don't you know, I feel for Juliana being like the only person she has is Grant, who is her fiance. And at the end of the day, that is the only person she needs. But it is tough to like see all these women who you thought you had friendships with and you were excited to get on the outside and like.
go on trips and hang out and do this and do that. And like, no one wants to do that with you. You know, that's tough.
You expected her to print out a PDF and read out screenshots?
Well, I can see how she might not think he's a good person after feeling like she was led on. And she, you know, like how she said where he was like, you know, my character. And she was like, honestly, I don't know if I do.
So it's like, how can she dish out to all of these women that like, yeah, anyone with kids like you're probably very fucking miserable and you're unhappy. And it's like her audience.
Well, you don't know if that's directly from Latia or if that's them feeling like they want to choose a side and the side that they're going to choose is Latia's.
It wasn't- That's usually how it goes though.
I'd imagine she feels lied to.
So you're pulling that she knows what she signed up for card?
I mean, I think she is entitled to say, hey, like, you said these four things to me that really had me thinking, like, I was the one. And then, like, clearly none of that was true. So, like, why say those things to me? Because it really put me... I totally get all that.
But you just told Grant and Juliana that you feel for Letia in that moment. And you have this empathy as to why she reiterated herself.
But you don't think she should have done it?
Like, yeah, she's not saying, you know, when she's being truthful, like, how can you.
Everyone was like, she went from kindergarten teacher to so fast.
He was saying like, he was like, I hope you don't think differently. And she was like, oh, come on.
So when she was on the red carpet and everyone was like, was that a bit?
She was like belting out singing songs on that interview where it's like if I'm uncomfortable, the last thing I'm going to do, I don't care if I'm like the best singer in the world is sing in front of one person.
But that's dangerous as someone who is in a position of power. She is famous. She does have all these young fans. And to not take that role seriously, you are given this platform. and to just like say shit to say shit and be like, ha ha ha, don't take me serious.
Yeah.
You can't be mad at a paparazzi for whatever the fuck they said that one time.
You don't think so? I mean, that's how everyone treated Britney Spears. That's how everyone treated Lady Gaga. Maybe we shouldn't be treating... Well, of course not.
She's making conversations. I think people need to put Hailey Bieber in the category of leave them the fuck alone.
Agreed. It will never end. I just don't care. These people are just like constantly trying to tear Hailey Bieber and Justin Bieber apart and it makes zero fucking sense to me.
Nick posted a video of some fucking wild turkeys to Heidi Montag's I'll Do It.
But to wild turkeys? Like, okay. No, I see the vision. I see the vision.
So Justin Bieber, it's not that deep.
It's like these people are professionals. They've been in this business for so long. You don't think they are aware that if Haley unfollows Justin on Instagram, that it's going to be a national story. Like, you don't think they know that. You don't think they're having a conversation about that. Like, I think everything they do, they're like aware of what they're doing. Okay.
His girlfriend.
What if that's lyrics to his next song that's coming out?
Yeah.
I mean, the amount of like this man had zero reason to even look in my direction. And he like complimented Nick and I. He like danced with me. He gave us hugs. Goodbye.
His female. His counterpart.
Would die for him.
Listen, I think he has a son. I think remember when right after we had River and we're recording and everyone in the comments like, oh, my God, Nick looks so tired. He looks fucked up. Why does he look like that? And it's like, well, we have a newborn like we're not sleeping. And it was just like everyone's like worried about Nick. Hope Nick's OK.
You remember that. Don't play dumb. You were like, do I really look that bad? Like, why is everyone saying that?
Yeah, we had a whole conversation about it. We were like, everyone keeps saying I look bad.
I think it's like he's probably a little delusional. He's not getting a lot of sleep. Like, they have a newborn.
Well, I mean, when do you stop talking? You can only stop talking about it when people stop asking you about it, you know? What's he going to say on live television with Andy Cohen? Like, I think I'm done talking about it. He could.
Sleep hot, sleep cold.
Oh.
I feel like that was his whole bit was like that. He did. He did. He did beat box and he was quite good. I just thought that was like a, Hey, like party trick.
Damn.
I heard that it changed.
It says that it's no longer going to be hitting Earth. At least that's what my stepfather told me. Maybe he was just trying to make me calm down. I don't know. If an asteroid hits, we don't have to pay off our student loans.
natalie i completely agree with you like i have definitely like struggled with certain things in my life and like being pregnant and like going through that whole thing like can be incredibly healing for multiple reasons emotionally physically and i just feel like just in general people need to like mind their own business when it comes to stuff like that it's tough because you know the internet is full of them
That's wild.
You dress up for the occasion. Yeah.
Hi.
Okay. When we dig a little deeper. Yeah.
No, truly, yeah. Why didn't you ask that? Yeah.
I think a scene part that was very hard for me to watch was when you came to the door, banging on the door. And it was like you could hear a broken man who you've known for two and a half years off and on. And it was... You sent JR to the door to answer it and to deal with it. Was that for any particular reason? So...
When did you know they were living above you?
But it's like you would hear a bird tweet and be like, oh my God, that's them kissing type of thing. Like it was just every noise you heard, you just went to the worst possible idea of what it could be.
I think anyone in that situation would go insane. I don't think. Yeah. I don't think.
I think you said in that moment that you felt violated and that it was so unfair to you. Why did you feel violated?
I can imagine it must also be hard because it's like the one person that you would talk to, you know, who went through this with you and who knows you, you're broken up. So it's like you can't really talk to that person. So it's like there is no really safe space.
About a month ago.
Yeah.
No, he's way too cocky. I mean, this man thinks he, like, is God. I don't know him. I don't know him. I mean, he's like, everyone is scared of me, everyone wants to be me, everyone wants to date me, which I... I can't speak to... That's just what it looks like on TV.
I mean, I think especially at the reunion when they showed all of his clips of him continuing to disrespect Zayna when it wasn't even, like... Before he even got to you guys. Yeah, before it was even, like, he picked his trial wife. It was...
You did mention feeling unseen in your relationship with Nick. I think that's unfortunately a very relatable feeling. Yeah. So I am sorry that you felt that way in that relationship. You did at the changeover use some big words to describe Nick. Tormented, attacked. Yeah.
I think we all are just confused. Like, I think there's like, you're like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Like, why did you feel that way?
At the reunion, they brought out Vanessa and Dave, which I completely could have done without. You're right. I mean, it was.
Very unnecessary. But Vanessa felt like it was her place, which I have zero respect for when someone, especially someone who you knew for about two days, maybe. Yeah. Tells you it's time for you to deal with your trauma and to go to therapy and to get the help that you need. Because it's like, that's probably not going to help, you know, outing that on a national television show.
Sandy, how was that for you to hear someone knowing, I imagine, you know, some of the stuff that he's been through in his life.
Kind of air out, you know, that dirty laundry on TV.
There seems to be something that has happened that y'all don't want to talk about or you aren't ready to share.
I think numbing pain is very relatable. You know, I've been through a lot of trauma myself and the way that I numbed it was just lying to myself. And I'd be like, that actually never happened to me. Like, I don't know who that was, but it wasn't me. How did you get out of looking at alcohol and other things to numb that and to get to where you are now?
Is that something you struggled with beforehand or did it help you through the show?
You still feel ashamed of that right now?
But Sandy, did you feel like he chose the drugs and alcohol over you? Yeah, of course. Every time.
I have to ask this. Did you have sex with J.R.?
Yeah, it was Nick's question, are you sleeping together? He said, no.
Sandy, I do apologize for I mean, we've recapped the show from the start. And I have said several times that I thought that y'all fucked. Obviously, I haven't spoken to you in person. So, you know, for you to look at me and say, like, no, it did not happen. I do believe you. And I can imagine how frustrating and how fucking annoying it must be for everyone in the world to say you fucked a man.
You know, you did. Yeah.
I do also think JR is more at fault of this perception of the two of you than you are. I think if you were placed with someone else, I don't think people would be speculating on any of that.
Yeah.
To read the stencil when he puts it on.
Yeah, literally. Nick also has enjoy the ride backwards on his chest so that it reads when he looks in the mirror.
Well, you haven't seen everyone in the world naked. Right.
Like, okay, Marky Diamond. Why are you coming at me right now? No, no, no. I'm just saying. You're coming at him.
Yeah, I think he gets way too much fucking credit than he deserves.
Well, I think we definitely want to thank you both for being so vulnerable and so open and especially you, Nick, for sharing some of the things that you went through and experienced. And I know that probably wasn't easy. So thank you for doing that. I'm sure it's going to help a lot of people.
You delivered. I'm like, Merry Christmas. Thank you, Mrs. Claus.
I need a massage because my back hurts.
Welcome. Hi. How are you?
You're going to be right by now. You're right there. Hi. So good to meet you.
Well, that's good.
No, no, no. We don't hate you. We don't love everything we saw on an edited show.
No, I can totally see your confusion on that end of I mean, you said multiple times you felt neglected in the relationship. And then, you know, I get your point where it's like now you see her with another man and you're like, hold on. What the fuck? I want you. I love you. You know, you always want what you can't have.
Why was there so many breakups in your relationship before coming on the ultimatum?
Wow. You and I are the same, Nick.
She's demure, but she'll also stab a bitch. She's been through a lot. She's willing to say something.
She's the Angie Katzenavis of Morven Wives in that it takes a second and she's... I'll never forget when she came and sat at the desk here and she... Someone said, like, what do you think of Whitney or something? And she was like, a bitch. Like, real fast. Like, didn't hesitate. No, yeah.
You're protective over Jesse and Michelle? No, we want to see them on TV.
That's too toxic for me.
That's performative. That's embarrassing when you walk out and you come back in.
It was kind of bizarre. When he kicked out Jason and Danny to have the phone call.
He's like, oh, phone call.
Yeah. Who knows?
Sutton put out like a... She's put out a statement essentially saying, and this is paraphrased, but like, you know, giving her her space. But like, she still follows my brands.
You mentioned Kyle texted you. There's a there's a narrative out there that Kyle kind of calls the shots on Beverly Hills. Would you say that's accurate or would you say that's just complete? Like she's just been there. She knows her thing and people are just making that up.
Because Michelle's like, you always cry. Like, you want to make me look cold. I know.
And then he calls Sheena to, like, have someone out that she was hooking up with the Baywatch guy or kissing him. And it's like this is tit for tat, like...
Oh, for sure.
You have a point. You're hiding the evidence. You're throwing the baby wipe away. Literally.
Yeah.
You have to go the next step now and perceive yourself standing in the Chipotle while someone else is thinking of you as a stage of life.
There you go.
Okay. Well, it is for me. Can we talk about Meredith real fast?
What is going on? Mary's been tracking this. There's a lot of like, where did Meredith quit? She was fired. She's paused. She's back.
Efficient. Danny does this. Get done much quicker.
Something.
There's specific Photoshops that I think are funny. It's when they take the confessional that we've all seen and then Photoshop on top of it as if we've never seen the original photo.
It doesn't even look like them.
That's what I'm saying. Hide the evidence. Don't do the photos you've all seen, you know?
I mean, he also, this is my own interpretation, met him on Grindr.
which is an app that's for more than just dating because he goes in quotes a dating app which i'm like okay so i mean it makes sense what you're saying specifically for that context but but it's not as if like hi what's your name brett here's my dick because that's what zach was basically on that app it is on that okay maybe not even a high just picture i think instead of like profile photos it's anatomy okay
There was also, speaking of Salt Lake City, did you see this, Nick? A video of Michael Jordan getting off of a yacht and there's a girl in front of him that gets off first that looks almost identical to Whitney Rose. And everybody's tagging her being like, is this you? Is this you? Why are you on a yacht with Michael Jordan?
And she hasn't confirmed whether it's her or not, but she did say, why is everybody tagging me in this? So I'm assuming that means it's not her.
It's definitely not her, but she's wearing like a Whitney Rose fit too. I mean, it's... With the ginger hair. So it's like it's...
What are the odds that a girl dyed her hair ginger at the same time that she had ginger hair?
She reposted the video. So she's making fun of it.
Who knows?
Natalie loves a little hibachi style. That's all. I do.
I've seen the whole thing.
I have. Did you guys see any Mormon Wives last night? Yeah. Well, we didn't see Jen.
This is our marriage. This isn't a game.
You announced we were swingers to the whole universe.
Oh my God, I'm such a sucker for Girl Scout cookies.
She doesn't have to, but I'm just like, even then, buy a box.
I just thought you're really passionate about Girl Scout cookies.
Justin? She was born six years ago. You monster. Why would you do that?
Big difference. Yeah. Big difference. Kyle also like notoriously never apologizes. And she's so used to having like a girl gang behind her that's like, don't talk about Kyle. Don't say this. And it's like you're kind of seeing the lone wolf in Erica, like still standing by Kyle where it's like, if she read that message about your ex-husband.
would you not want to know what you haven't shared or what you will always keep secret? Because that's, that's weird verbiage.
And I feel like Bose said something just like about just like working in the workplace and like whatnot, where it's like this type of reaction. Not only is it giving guilty, but it's also like, Just be able to stand still and have a conversation about it. The bigger the reaction, the more you seem guilty because it's like you're trying to deflect from what's being said when it's as simple.
I don't think what I said was wrong. But instead, it's like, let's blow up. Let's make a whole thing so we don't have to continue this conversation anymore. And it's just like. I don't know. It's just the deflection for me where I'm like exactly what you said. This could have been solely handled with a singular conversation between two people.
And instead you're reading text messages at a pizza party. I'm really sorry.
That was interesting. She said it was because of all of this. And it's like, then why wouldn't you say it? Every single one of those housewives were like, nope, I have sent text messages being like, I can't say what you said on camera or I won't do this in front of production. And it's like for you to leave that little bit out in your message to PK, it's suspect.
To reiterate what Natalie said, I'm like, it's also shocking that people don't understand that she's in a professional setting. So I'm like, at the end of the day, she's hired to do her job. You're not going to see her pushing him aggressively away. You're not going to see her cowering. She knows that the camera is rolling.
They're having conversation and she's trying to direct it back into the way that she wants it.
the scene to go but again it's it's another thing where it's his word versus hers and it's like you don't know what the inner monologue in her mind of if she was uncomfortable what she was thinking how she was feeling and that wasn't being gauged so again it's it's the if i were in her shoes i would have been fine but you don't know what it was like to be in her shoes in that position
Well, I'm sorry, just not giving ally in the sense of you're going to throw a co-worker's appearance, a woman's appearance under the bus to validate your commentary that you extended about your nose.
Who's not in the room, who you hired, who doesn't know that you've said this about her.
It's still in my head.
Yeah. I was like, OK, tell me all about what's happening inside my body.
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Yeah.
He sends people home. So these women are all going to get out of multiple limos. Okay. And they're going to try to make their big first impression. Oh, dear. That's who should be parachuting in.
I'm ready. But here you go. I'm ready. All right. This is Alex. She's 27. Why is there an extra E at the end of her name? I feel like it's Alexi.
Alexi. Alexi?
I feel like this is like an Alex with a silent E, but okay, we're going to do Alexi. She loves ketchup chips, so I feel like that is an immediate.
She's selfless. I'm into it. All right. Me too.
Next, we've got Allie Jo. She's a boxing trainer from New Jersey.
Because you're a child of the 90s.
And you will never see her leave the house without lipstick on. Same.
She and I are like the same person.
So we love Bailey. Wait, once took a... Once took a flight solely for the purpose of leveling up her status with an airline. I respect that.
She's ambitious.
Just throw three words that make sense. Like there are two words that make sense and then just throw associate at the end or producer and you're good.
I see you, nurse. That's intense.
Okay. Beauty and brains. There we go.
It has been done before.
They all live together.
Yep. In bunk beds.
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And it seems like whatever she was trying to protect, and he's not making it any easier, in my opinion.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Who knows.
I do.
I was going to say, can we start getting messy?
like what's going on why are you being so weird nothing she just was like anyways wait give me a foot massage the foot massage but like you could tell he never does it she's like really and it's like we're not even questioning that like you know and tell me what you guys talked about and then all of a sudden now you're willing to rub my feet I just don't even remember it's just like a long day it's a long day it's like
Love zero.
Mm-hmm. Joey Bottles.
Joe is really upset by this as well. But I'm also like TJ's made it very clear that he doesn't want to be around Joe and walking away from him and telling all of their mutual friends he wants nothing to do with him. So why after 15 attempts, why would Joe continue? He's going to give him space and he's going to stay over there while you're hanging out in the pool with my girlfriend.
Yeah. Also that maybe your friend wasn't who you thought they were because you had trust with them. And then they're going around telling things about you that may not be true, that may or may not be true.
It's season two. I haven't gotten there yet.
Yeah.
But the thing is, like, I don't know where because I'm already seven, six or seven episodes in and it hasn't happened. So that's where I'm like, this sounds like this is something that happens towards the end of a season, which would make sense why we're opening up this season with them not being friends at all.
I just also feel like we have to start normalizing going directly to a person and having that conversation because the amount of drama and the amount of stuff where I'm like, hey, give it to me because I watch it. But I'm like the amount of drama that's being created around a conversation that could have happened between two people come to a formal understanding.
And it sounds like there was a conversation to where TJ admits his feelings and Joe says he doesn't reciprocate. I don't know what the timeline of certain events are, but I'm like at that case when somebody tells you who they are, what they think, what they feel, just believe that.
Yeah.
And also it's so weird is that somebody did this to Maddie. I think it was actually Joe did this to Maddie about her ex that was on the first two seasons saying that, you know, he's back cheating, whatever it was, and she blows up. But it's like at the end of the day, yes, sometimes hearing things that you don't want to believe makes you angry and you react and you're like and you're in denial.
But a friend that wants to tell you something, there's no friend that you should have that's close to you that's trying to just ruin your relationship to ruin your relationship. Like, I'm sorry, I heard a piece of information. I think everyone else is talking about it. You should also know about this. And there's nothing wrong with that. But at the same time, it's shoot the messenger.
Right. Yeah. Okay. Also, just like raise just like a little bit of concern where Emmy went up to Siobhan and was like, pretty much just like, okay, like, we're cool now. And it was just like, okay, I love you. I love you. Okay, bye. And I was just like, you just blew up at your work.
Marsh.
Waterfall. I hate how much I enjoyed that. Waterfall. Waterfall. Waterfall's cute. Yeah.
Every move. I know. They step outside. He didn't dress up enough. They're getting a divorce. He doesn't love her. They're not holding hands. Yeah.
He's walking ahead of her while he's supporting her at her event. But yes, no, he hates her.
No. No. Somebody called it yassified and I just can't not think of it that way. Yeah, no.
To explain the starter pistol is what he says that he has, which is a gun that's usually carried as a prop for security purposes. But it makes a loud noise instead of firing bullets and is used for starting races. A starter pistol is what he's claiming he was holding.
There is video evidence. I'm pretty positive. And I know there's still frames. I haven't seen it. So I'm like and also I don't know how a starter pistol works in the sense of does it fire off a blank or is it just a loud noise?
Carat. Color cut.
I actually don't. Wait. Color cut clarity. I think it's color cut clarity. I think it is, actually. Oh, because carat's spelled with a K. Either way. Is it? For gold, it's like 24 carat.
Truly.
Where's your husband?
He didn't have the swag.
They're tired.
Right.
Well, she basically just posted on her Instagram and was answering because people were asking like why she didn't really say goodbye. And she said, of course, I would have said goodbye if I was given the opportunity. I don't think she was like shading Lala, but she was kind of just implying that like she wasn't given the opportunity to say goodbye on the show.
And that if she had been given that opportunity, she, of course, would have wanted to say goodbye to everyone.
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Even with a disc on her head, she's hot. Truly.
Meredith.
Yeah.
The only reason I believe Brynn is because she told Uba that it was a prank before they did.
I said it last week. I completely agree.
Yeah, like what would have been a better prank?
Fashion, fashion, fashion.
Was that it? That's what she said at the reunion. Fashion, fashion, fashion.
Did we want to talk about in Real Housewives of New York when Bryn wants to make embryos with that guy who's not Hugh Grant?
Yeah.
Whoa. I mean, that would have been.
She was like, she's trolling us.
Mic drop. Yeah. And I do have to say, as most of you know, my dad had cancer. He did lose his hair and his two brothers shaved their heads. And they did not go all the way bald. They just went buzz cut in solidarity. And there was no like, oh, you should have gone all the way bald. No.
People are going to do what they're going to do to stand in solidarity and they're going to support their friends and loved ones the way that they need to. And people should not criticize how people go about supporting everyone's loved ones.
I don't know my favorite brand.
It still is. First of all, nothing was ever organized. You walked in in immediate anxiety. I'm looking at army print next to fluffy pink jackets. Also, there's the running joke of, oh my god, this cute white t-shirt. You pick it up and it's like, puppy lover.
on the back and you're like what the fuck yeah come on we're doing so well yeah so honestly it was time r.i.p forever 21 honestly had a great run the shoes that i was wearing the day that i met nick are forever 21 and i will never get rid of them because they hold such a special reason honestly some of my older pieces from forever 21 still hold up it was like once they turned into like wash it once and it shreds then it's like yeah i can't shop here yeah but i used to love it
We're watching.
Oh, yeah. No, there's a clip of them on a red carpet where... It was crazy. The interviewer asks a question to both of them.
She kind of starts answering and then he starts complimenting her. He's like, she's a star. She's amazing. And she's like, I was talking. Don't interrupt me when I'm talking.
And looked down. It was so sad.
When I'm talking, you're not talking.
I'm on a red carpet in an interview.
Like this man has been through a lot and now you're like snapping at him.
But also that sentence, like when I'm talking, you're not talking is such a degrading sentence. Like there's a way to be like, honey, could you not interrupt me? Like I was in the middle of a story, you know, like there's a way to say like, hey, wait your turn.
That's true. I mean, I don't know. It's just...
That gives zero patience in the fact that he wasn't even, like, shocked by it.
He said, I'm sorry, and looked down at the ground. Like, the saddest face I've ever seen.
We know who is running that household.
Was she being sarcastic? Probably.
It's just, it's so apparent. It's a joke. And even if she does pick up her kids and they're like, why does it bother you? Yeah.
Because she knows the school. Because husbands. Because husbands, exactly. But you know the school she's going to is like the school with all of the other famous celebrity children. And I'm sure they're all picking up their kids also in like a latex dress as well. So it's like, they're just all in one. Yeah.
Yes. There are. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Up towards.
No, I don't. But I do like I hear stories from people being like, oh, yeah. Or like when my friends used to nanny and they'd be like, oh, yeah, Charlize Theron just came and picked up her kid while I was waiting for like mine. And it's just like crazy.
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Yeah. I mean, I had absolutely zero idea that you had this accent. Oh, really? Yeah. And I feel like I've watched so obviously I've watched so much of your work, but just I feel like I've watched you on red carpets and it's never clicked for me. And then meeting you in person, I'm like, oh, yes, of course.
Just one. She's six. We have one. She's 13 months old.
She has her morning bedhead, but she's walking the dog.
Oh.
A lot. Took a shower. Yeah, it is crazy to watch her like because, yeah, she can't really say a lot. But if I'm like, oh, can you put this over there on that stool? And yeah, we'll go and do it.
Yeah, really crazy. When do you feel like her personality really came out and started to be who she is today?
Was that her first word?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Rivers' dog, right? That was like her first word because we have two dogs. So I think it was very easy to just.
Nick's developed a new habit.
Yeah, she points him out and now it's like she'll hear a bird like tweeting or cawing and she will like, caw, caw. It's so sweet. It's really cool to like watch them grow into human beings. It's so cool. We were talking before y'all came in here about Kylie Jenner recently has gone viral for saying she would pick her kids up from school in a latex dress that she was wearing.
Good habit? Bad habit?
And so.
The internet interneted.
A diabolical habit. We hate it. Yeah. Okay. I know what this is. I know what you're going to say. Say it. He leaves chewed up wads of gum on random surfaces throughout our home. I've left. Several.
how would you feel if you were like, oh, let me just put on this latex dress to go pick up my kids. Are you dressing up to pick up the kids or are we in like a robe and pajamas?
When the kids are gone, the latex comes out.
It's the cashmere sweater. Oh, okay.
I don't know. A pantsuit. A pantsuit maybe. A lot of people are in pajamas.
I feel like that would be me with like an open mug, you know, coffee and like my robe on and slippers.
And also once you go into like some of the other shows and you realize how just crazy those are, you go back to like The Bachelor recipe and you're like, okay.
Wait, why is this a newly developed habit? Yeah. At 45. Four years old. I remember seeing this.
Yeah. Thank you so much for giving me that information. Do you want to do fantasy suites? Yeah, exactly.
They do. Why is it needed? And they're doing it earlier and earlier, it feels like.
He just now started not throwing his gum in the trash can. I feel like this was like a bit on like Parent Trap or like an old movie where it was like she would like take her gum out and like put it on her like headboard. And I used to do that when I was like 10 thinking it was so cool. Oh. I know. I know. But you're not 10. Why is this happening?
Thank you.
Thank you.
But it's in awful places. What do you mean? Well.
This is a choking hazard. We all make mistakes. He puts River down for a nap and rushes out of the room for some reason. Don't call. Don't know. Call.
Thank you. Thank you.
So I checked the monitor and she's like not asleep. She's kind of just awake, chilling. And I'm like, OK, well, I'll let her work it out. You know, she's not crying. She's just kind of hanging out in there and she loves her crib. So I would check back in every couple of minutes and she's laying down. She's sitting up. She's standing up. She's laying down. She's.
And then I'm like, what am I doing? Like, I might as well just go in there, you know, and like rock her and try to get her back to sleep. And thank God I do. She's got that gum all wrapped around her hands. No. I mean, just like stretching it, playing with it. I was like, oh, my God.
God, she's really come a long way.
Is she ready for slime?
I feel that way too. I think also, I mean, in this episode you'll see, but like Garcelle really is just, she doesn't drop the Morgan Wade of it all. And it's like,
I feel like, honestly, they do that. I feel like they have to to remain sane, right? I mean, it's like, you just carried all that.
Now I leave gum.
Thank you for protecting me.
Garcelle just like will not let this Morgan. She was standing on the side of a stage and Garcelle's like, and what was that all about? You went to a concert?
It seems like she just went to a concert. It wasn't like a picture of them canoodling.
I have wound it up on Morgan Wade TikTok.
Where it's just people at her concerts. And she does Jessie's Girl. She does a rendition of that song. And I contemplate my sexuality while watching. And I understand where Kyle comes from. It all makes sense. She's so cool. Yeah, she's very cool. She seems so cool.
Oh, so she knew not to swallow it.
Okay. It's crazy. It's four couples who come in. Some of them, one has been together for three and a half years. Okay. I think the one is like a year, so it's in between.
Yeah. Yeah. Later 20s, early 30s.
Just thought we would go on the show. So those are the four couples at the top. And then they sit together as couples as all of the women, the temptresses, walk by. And then they sit there as a couple as the tempters walk by. And then they get to the temptresses and tempters like choose the person that they're interested in.
But even like Shug, our babysitter, she was like, so I found like several pieces of chewed up gum. Like in random places? I was like, yeah, no, I know. That is Nick. Did you ask her to guess? She was like, there's one on her changing table. And I feel like that the diaper trash cans, right? It's the most accessible trash can in the house. Truly. I mean, it's just it's right there.
So like in front of your partner, this like beautiful woman in a bikini walks up and like puts a bracelet on Nick and is like, I'm so glad you're here. And you just like watch it. And then they go and move into a house with these.
Oh yeah.
There's hidden cameras everywhere. It's very much like we have boundaries of like we will not cross a physical line. And then they're like having shower sex. The next scene was one of these. And then the women go to a bonfire and they watch clips of what their boyfriend has been doing.
It was like, oh, that one in that bikini is insane. What? Like crazy stuff.
So yeah, they give us, they give them like confessionals. They allow you to like get to know these.
No, they're like, listen, I want to like potentially build a relationship with you. Maybe we could leave this island together and like not your girlfriend of four years, but me that you've known for two weeks. And so, yeah, they're all kind of,
Not me. I want nothing to do with it.
It's, it's, it's like a microscope into that age of man's brain. Yeah. Like how it works. And you're like this in 2025. Yeah. Yeah.
crazy like you've been with this girl for two and a half years you've been away from her for four nights and like you're already having sex with someone else and then you're like listen i'm i'm not really sorry but like i forgive you for all of our like past issues that we've ever had and like basically for not accepting him for who he is
And what's so crazy is that Breon, one of the temptresses that he's, like, kept, they kind of, like, send some of them home, you know, the ones that they're not really connecting with. They send some home.
It's easy to throw away. Are you going back for these pieces of gum? Oh, my God, no.
Like you've been around a bunch of temptresses the whole time and like you want to.
I mean, also his name was Lino and I don't know a lot of Linos.
I just wanted to know if you go back for these chewed up pieces of gum or are they part of the house? Like when you put it down, are you coming back?
And when I did, it wasn't as good as it is with you. It's only one of you. It is a crazy show, and I feel like my jaw has just dropped the entire show. Because you're like, oh my god, these people. How are you doing this?
It's like your blonde extensions and your big thick boobs are just really my type. But that's what it is.
And people get so like detailed on it's like, well, my type is blue eyes. I know. So no green eyes at all.
Just swallow it.
And I plead the fifth. That reminds me of that Justin Bieber deposition where he's sitting and he's in some lawyer's office. It's not a courtroom, but they're showing him some videos and he's just the whole time like... I don't recall. Yeah. I do not recall.
What? On the new season. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't tell you. For a reason. Oh, wow. As a temptress? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. The temptress. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck, guys. Yeah.
I'm hearing so many. You also gave Danny Louie's umbilical cord to give to the dog to eat. So you need to stop giving Danny things to dispose of. You are not wrong there. I had forgotten about that. Did you know that Nick?
How is Vancouver? Do you like filming in Vancouver? Yeah, it's really nice.
Is it really rainy there? Yes. It is. Yeah.
Does your daughter have a New Zealand accent or an American accent?
Leah, she was at the house with Louie and she was, she was at our house with Louie and she was talking about like, oh my gosh, how funny is this? Like whenever Louie's umbilical cord fell off, you know, it falls off like a week after you get home. Yeah. Danny fed it to the dog. And I was like, what?
Come on. Right, exactly. That kind of stuff. It's like a kind of this thing that's going around is like, you know, I'm so happy that I picked someone who wants to be a husband and a father versus someone who wants a wife and babies. And it's such like that. Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
But like normalize. We did both sign up for this. Yeah. So we are both doing just our part, you know?
Yeah. Healthy couples. I know. Yeah.
I remember my mom, she was like, whenever I told her about Nick, she was like, I'm just so grateful that he has never been married or hasn't had children before because she married my dad after he had three kids. And she was like, you know, the first time I was pregnant, I was like, oh, oh my God, the baby kicked. And she would say, my dad would be like, cool.
Cause like he had been through it so many times. So like nothing was like as exciting as it was for her. And she was like, I'm so excited that you have someone who's just like equally on that. Yeah.
Yeah.
He was like cleaning my breast pumps and would like get them charged. And she was just like, this is crazy.
I saw recently someone, this older guy, he said his kids were, like, in college now. But he was, like, one piece of advice I could give to parents with young children is, like, make everything a game. Like, everything that you do. Like, you're sitting at a diner and you, like, do, like, blind taste tests of the syrup.
Like, you just, like, make everything that you do this just, like, fun game so that, like, they... Well, I think it was, like, not needing screens or whatever. But it was just, like, a fun way to think of... like, involving your kids in everything you do.
Like, instead of distracting them, you involve them and, like, you give them... You know, it's a cool... That is a cool... That still works on me.
And for me, I was like, I have that saved somewhere.
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You're like, now I'm mad at Danny.
Through his company?
I just I feel like every time I feel like any time you turn on a movie or a TV show, it's like, oh, my God, there's Melanie Lutzky. It's like she's in just everything.
Yeah. I always forget she has an accent because she's so good that it's just like, oh, yeah, you're not from here, are you? That's what I said to her. Yeah.
I'm like so sad. I think I only have like two episodes left.
No, adorable.
Yeah, no. There's a lot of things that I must have done. And if adorable is it like a pat on the head, like, good job.
I don't ever want to hear the word adorable and me associated in the same sentence.
Grant, whenever he wrote his letter to Natalie, he was like, you're so cute and adorable. And it was like, we were just fucking in the shower like last night. And now I'm adorable.
He seems like the type of guy that can go out and get what he wants.
Well, because they're all just operating with such like...
low character traits it's like how have you never had someone be like hey that's actually not how you treat someone that you would say that you love it was like the brian explaining his like cheating being like well this is what's happening here but like it's not real and it's like bro you guys are going to leave together and what you did here not only exists in real life um but it is filmed to replay to show how little you fucking cared
Well, marijuana users are now six times more likely to have a heart attack. Do you want to rethink your choices?
Thank you.
Please, Nick, listen.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
To Nick's point, more likely than what? Than the average person who's not smoking weed.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm fine. And I have no issues.
Why are you timesing it by zero?
Keep the drama down. That's my favorite person ever. Yeah.
We're dating.
I'm just saying, this is the medication that we're giving to like cancer patients, glaucoma, you know.
I don't remember the Taylor Swift one.
Oh, yes.
Who wasn't recently? Was it like Scarlett Johansson? I think maybe that's wrong, but was like, I only take photos with fans in professional settings. Like I will not take a photo with a fan if I'm just like getting a coffee. That's pretty good. Because I don't want people to know like where I am in the, like it was like a, you don't deserve. I get it.
Like Billie Eilish still lives at home with her parents in the house she grew up in.
Are you a part-time influencer? No.
I was wondering why you're doing photo shoots in the middle of the street.
Have you done any jokes about being a son of a Holocaust survivor or is that like way too far? Tugs.
How does... Mother, father? Dad. Dad.
Does he find them funny or...
He's not at home like crying because his son doesn't understand.
But which one are you?
Were you team Aiden or team Big?
We definitely don't have time for that.
Did you watch the new one or no?
Immediately.
you're still okay that did rock me I was like crying I think for the rest of the day being like you can't ever eat on a Peloton please you're next age well I am older than her so it was immediately like you know trauma from like dating an older man yeah yeah yeah I'm sure you've been there you must be like yeah okay this could happen yeah someday and did you know that a new study just came out that apparently I'm six times more likely to have a heart attack six times more marijuana smokers are six times more likely to have a heart attack what but we're chill
What?
Yeah, and you get like bad anxiety and you get like itchy.
Six times.
The average person.
But it is at the end of the day, just math. And doesn't make any sense in the story. Who's the zero?
That's because you've smoked so much weed, it's fucking up the brain cells in your head.
Oh my God.
She also has a very small column and a very nice apartment control department.
A brownstone at that. Yeah.
And that's a personal gripe you have.
I mean, Samantha is, some could say too nude.
That's crazy. Do you refer to a pussy as a pussy?
Like if you're talking to like a girlfriend?
With a B?
Why the B?
I feel like most of the time the answer is no, don't you think?
They're like, oh my God.
Who's Red Wings?
Oh, it's because I lost my child. So I got a wing for it. Fuck. For my baby that I lost.
Yeah, you want to dive into that?
Are there moments when you're on stage and you, can you see your audience or are you those? It's like, turn the lights up. I don't want to see.
So you don't want to see their facial expressions.
and then you just like keep going yeah i gave it up for some lady at the comedy store once what oh i said anytime i go to a comedy show i try to sit in the back because i'm like i don't want to i don't want to be a subject of your comedy yeah i just want to enjoy
Can you just sue anyone who's just mean to you?
At what point did you realize you were funny? Like enough to do it in front of people?
Never? Yeah. I was getting thrown out of class. Oh, you were one of those that was like, he's talking too much.
Did you ever have to take tests like outside? Like I was, my teacher would have to put like desks outside of the door and you'd have to like take a test out there so that you didn't like disrupt.
Oh. Juice.
It is. Leo, it's so funny.
Southern California.
Well, he went to Yeshiva, so. I went to Yeshiva briefly. Oh, Yeshiva. Yes.
Could you imagine if I became a billionaire and it was just off suing people in my comments who were mean to me?
Did you feel... You can say anything. I'm good.
I'll take it back. Yeah.
Yeah, and sometimes it's a really strange place that you live on.
I'm so trying to remember the comment. What was the weird word? They're trying to say a word. Oh, indoors. Indoors.
Yeah.
Maybe it's more the drugs than the TikTok algorithm in your head. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah.
That's what I said. What was that?
Okay. They're only here to see what I indoors.
Mushroom what?
Yeah.
I do know a few of them.
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And you're like, who was that?
I just love that you said that with such conviction. Like, yeah, pre-kid slap before post-kid slap is so different.
And I was like, oh my God, he's so relatable. Like, he's just like us. Like, what was your pre-kid like? Wait, I do have a question. You're a golfer. You were a golfer.
You're not good anymore or you stopped?
Oh, my God.
My dad was the 11th longest drive hitter in the world one year.
You're also not a big drinker, which I feel like that just like goes hand in hand with golfing for 15 hours straight.
Yeah. My friend's husband's a really big golfer and it's like they do like betting and all that stuff. And so like anytime my boyfriend goes with him, I'm like, you're not betting. You're going to lose.
They're just literally stealing money from you at this point.
You have a fixation with dead people?
Would you say that you would like to be buried or cremated?
You've been such a good boy today.
What kind of dog? What does it matter?
None of that matters. All of it is going to eat that.
Well, she ate it. You know, she probably didn't even taste it. It was just like, yeah, it was very crunchy.
Yes.
Yeah, she's not judging herself. She's judging her peers who are also rich who feel the need to, like, start a liquor company. A beauty brand. Yeah, or start, like, a... Hair company. A hair company. An activewear brand.
Front and center. You were not front and center.
You were the complete opposite of front and center.
He was behind Natalie holding her hand. You got this, babe. You're doing great. Yeah.
He also refused to try my breast pump out before me, which I felt like was... What do you mean?
To pump his breast? Well, I was nervous to use it. I was like, what if it hurts? You know, I was a little scared. I'd never used a breast pump before. Yeah. So I was like, listen, could you test it out and just let me know if it's painful? And he refused.
But don't you feel like as in a relationship, you should just go through things together?
So you don't want to feel the contractions. You don't want to be involved.
So you wouldn't want to be front and center. You're not interested in being a part of it.
Yeah. That was a hefty hospital bill for sure.
There was a video that went viral of a woman who was in the middle of giving birth. And it's like the husband's filming, I guess. And all you can see is like you can't see anything but like the tops of her knees. And there's like a nurse on the other side of her. And you can hear the doctor going like, OK, you're going to tear. So I'm probably just going to have to cut.
And they're like, why would the nurse make that face?
Like the patient, the mom who's in labor is like, is that going to hurt? And she looks over at the nurse and she's like, oh. I don't think so. Yeah.
They're only doing it to make more money.
You know, it was like, that's normal. That's how they get the baby out is just to cut you right open. And I was like, no, no, no.
That's a C-section.
Talking about like cutting your vagina to make it wider. To make it come out.
And scissoring.
Yeah. So, no, my mom was like, they're gonna, like, they do it to everyone. It's just easier to get the baby out. And I was like, no, no. Nowadays, you do perineal massages to lubricate the area in which, which is basically like a gooch massage.
I thought you lost your anal virginity to me. Oh my God.
So I'm going to have to put in my 30 days.
Listen, it's all a bit. It's all stand up. And none, all of this is a joke.
I would do anal every day. Honestly, the epidural is the best part about giving birth, other than meeting my child for the first time.
Yeah. You should try epidural for your next hike or live music festival.
You stop hitting it if you like.
Wow. The second I was like, I think I feel my toes more.
wow and then and then you couldn't feel it could you push out yeah all you feel is like pressure but you don't feel any I mean they tell you they're like you're gonna push for 10 seconds and so you just like hold a push for 10 seconds and then they're like we see your head and it's like wow I guess I'm doing something I mean we got very lucky with very little complications no complications so you know not the same for everyone but it was shockingly like
Yeah.
You know, there was so much going on in the room, I don't recall. If Nick would have been down there, he could have listened, but...
Honestly, I thought about that. I said, hmm, should I get like wax or shave before? And then I said, well, wax is painful. Like, I don't need to go through that right now. I'm about to go through birth.
If I can get the wax post.
Call in your wax. Yeah.
So then I was like, I guess I could shave. And then I was like, well, that feels like a lot of open wounds. Like, you know, what if I cut myself? And then like, that just felt like it was little. So I just gave her a jungle to fight through.
Sometimes they shave it themselves. The nurses will be like, oh my God, we got to get in here. And they have a little disposable razor.
I find it fascinating. I do. I mean, I think she was I think she was being funny. And I think it was like an interesting take of like, I'm judging you for like needing to have a side hustle when like you already make billions of dollars.
I'm like, I can't see anything down there. I should probably take control.
I'll see you next time.
If your rates like eight million dollars on a movie, but then it's like, you know, fuck it. Let's throw a tequila brand on top of that. I'll shoot a commercial once in a while. Like, I get it. Whereas she's just saying, like, I kind of hate money. I have a problem with rich people having a side hustle. If you already have like $200 million, I judge it.
I mean, I don't know about her philanthropic endeavors, but I'm sure if she hates it, she probably does give.
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Literally.
And Tina's just saying, like, I just judge you a little bit for being like, she's saying it's a little cringy.
She's still acting.
It's still acting.
Have you ever judged your peers for like doing something that you feel is a little cringy?
And that's what she's saying. She's saying that like George Clooney, not George Clooney, but example George Clooney having his tequila company is a little cringe.
I respect the side hustle, too, where I'm like, listen, if I don't want to do 500 movies this year and I can make the same amount endorsing a brand, by all means do it. But I also think that the opinion's kind of funny.
No, they're all one umbrella. Yeah.
Entertainment. No, her, yeah.
Because, like, they don't use, like, real tequila in movies, right? It's, like, water. So it's, like, these are two very different things. It's not even... He's not acting like he likes his tequila company.
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I think it's her being funny and being cheeky and just like calling out some of her friends. And it's like the fact that she would do this to people is really fucked up. It's like really fucking it up for the rest of us rich people.
Did you have to channel yourself, like try and think like, OK, I'm in a movie.
I'm going to do that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Was there any part of you watching it back? That was like, I never saw it. Oh, really?
Did you feel safer in this environment than with like the housewives? Because obviously you can't control what all these other women are saying and like they want to create drama and like here you're with your family.
You have been quite busy with two shows.
No, it's... That was like our third, but I think that was the longest time. It's usually like one night that we're able to leave. This was two nights later.
It's because now she like knows that we're gone. You know, like before she just was so little. She didn't really like know what was going on. And now it's like if we FaceTime and the FaceTime hangs up, she's crying. She's mad.
It's a big storyline of this season.
Yeah. Kyle's involvement and like PK's the friendship. It's all a big mess on this season. Yeah.
When you went.
Really? Yeah, it's really tiny. I didn't know it was that small. It's so small.
They made it look huge in Finding Nemo.
Did you have to? I mean, I know we did. And it was a very traumatic thing to even have to like pack a to go bag to think of everything that you cannot replace.
It is honestly such a healthy mindset I feel like to have is just to be like, I don't give a fuck.
um so it was just it was actually the silver lining going through all that was that I was able to just be myself doing stuff you know what I mean yeah I feel like today's like I feel like TikTok is the like nasty okay magazine and like the like tabloids of that era who would just print crazy false like makeup so I feel like TikTok is that today because it's like
anyone can say anything and run with it and it gets millions of views and goes viral and whatever and so yeah it's like for me I don't I don't get on TikTok I don't because like the second I get on I have an intense anxiety of like what I know because people can just say they can say whatever and it's crazy it is crazy yeah I'm glad I didn't go through my divorce during this time yeah yeah oh yeah now it's it's nuts out there no it's not good
Wait, so the potty was, it was just a bucket, right?
I don't know. I feel like all my goldfishes when they died, they were like belly up and like.
Who are you rooting for the most on this season?
I know.
Yeah.
No, no. This fish swam to the surface.
They really do target.
Yeah, they really do target housewives, though.
They do. So you would have to be like, I'm not a housewife.
I am Denise Richards of the Wild Things. I am not.
Oh, yeah.
I think he should be a faithful just because he's really not a good liar at all. He's one of those who's like, I lied to you earlier about I just can't. I can't go on any longer. I didn't take the trash out. I lied to you. So I feel like if he was a traitor, there's a lot of manipulating and lying.
Yeah, she made a journey. You know what that reminds me of? There's like a veterinarian clinic somewhere. I don't know exactly where and what part of the country, but whenever they have to like euthanize dogs, they like if they're sick or like old age or whatever, they give them a Hershey's kiss because they say no dog should die without trying chocolate.
No, it's what? What? Did you smoke weed? What? Huh? And then he gets up and like, oh, someone's at the door. Like, I have to go hang up clothes or something. I have to leave immediately.
And then you're looking for it for forever. Yeah.
Do y'all get in bed at the same time? Yeah.
Good. So do we. Does he get your water, turn off the lights, lock the doors?
Oh my God.
I made my own this morning, so.
Yeah, today. Yeah, not today. Okay, he's going to have to make up.
But then I said, actually, you know what? I would like for you to make me coffee, but he never turned on the... I did.
Because there wasn't coffee and I had to make my own.
Honestly, it's really because if I were to go in there, it would be like time to play.
Yeah, it's a lot harder. He's a lot more of like a calmer energy.
It's like a mini dress.
She did in the beginning. We transitioned her to her crib at like four months, four and a half months. And she loves it. And she like, I put little stuffed animals in each corner of the crib. And she like will play.
Honestly, when we put her in at four months, she was like, I'm good to go.
Well, there is no like, let's fall back asleep, everyone.
It's crazy.
It's crazy. I'll be on like the far corner and she's really close up next to me. And then Nick is really close. And I'm like, there is so much room, Nick, on your side. You've got to scoot over. Everyone has got to scoot.
It's because our house is really cold.
I know. When you said Steve's in the kennel, I said our dog.
Steve is naughty. Steve is so bad. He opens drawers. He pulls stuff out in the middle of the night.
I think it's kennel.
Kettle. I know what he was talking about.
If she comes near him, he's like, oh, that's so cute. And Steve will let her like pet him.
Was Tim around when your girls were younger?
Do you and Aaron share a drink?
We have a communal cup. We drink like at dinner. Nick and I will make one big Stanley of like full water.
We are very much in the minority of that.
Thank you for saying that.
So I'm from Alabama, lived in Georgia for a while, grew up going to Tennessee a ton. So I think we just have a lot... Since having River, I feel like we both want to just raise her in a different, a slower life, a slower atmosphere, bigger community, closer to family. So I do think we're going to end up in the South at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Yeah, we can do it.
He needs a little bit of humanity.
I get it. As someone who grew up there, it is quite boring. At least the place. I mean, I grew up in a college town. And if you're like not in college or retired, it's like.
No, no, no. My mom's still in Alabama. She comes to visit like once a month for a week or something.
That's so nice.
Would y'all ever move out of L.A. ?
This is going to be so exciting. I'm so excited to watch it. It's going to be amazing. Congratulations on everything. Thank you so much. You really crushed Special Forces. We were like, damn, she killed it.
No.
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And it did like I feel like it definitely made Meg question everything with Mason, which ended up obviously in both of them just going home, which was sad.
Yeah, you couldn't have stuck it out a little longer for the vacation. Yeah.
Do you think watching it back, you kind of like felt really good about your decision or was there any part of you that was like, maybe I like saw that wrong and like seeing it from her perspective or seeing a conversation she had with Mason, like change your mind about anything?
She also talked shit to his other girl.
Yeah, I was watching that to see her kind of trying to like ruin that relationship as well between Meg and Mason.
And I say this knowing my husband crushes a beard.
I'll try it out. And the mock neck turtlenecks, do you feel like those are going to make another round in the mix?
Listen, blue is definitely your color. You look great in blue. I think it was more so just like the commit to the turtleneck that there was lack thereof.
Were you a fan of the show before you went on?
That is crazy. Two years later. Wow.
Did you see his reaction where he jumped through the pews into Rihanna's arms?
I'm glad that finally she was like, I am monogamous.
It really was kind of crazy.
Yeah, it really was.
He can't handle a bisexual baddie. I will say I am kind of like bored with a lot of these couples. You know, like I can't, like Monica and Joey, it's hard to watch.
That's definitely believable. I think what's less believable is the fact that he specifically says he has a great memory with Instagram handles and profile pictures.
I guess it's just it's uber specific to say something that you're like very good at memorizing. I like the way you said it actually. What? She said she liked the way you said it. I like that. We should make that a thing. I kind of like that too. I also say heat seeder. Heat seeder. You want me to turn your heat seeder on?
I'll say right now I have two hundred and seventy seven thousand Instagram followers and I'm following seven hundred and seventy two people. Couldn't tell you. And I don't want that to change.
Yeah. Unless I'm catapulted.
But I do think people really do, like to my point of saying the numbers thing, I do think people do like look at, you know, if they're like, oh, I hit 400 and then it's down to 399. Like they're going to recognize that. They're going to see that. Like I do think it's like for people who don't have, when it's easy to see the number change, I do think people notice that.
I think his lawyer was there and he was like, okay, get the fuck off me.
I don't even have to be married to her to want to do that.
I do also think she was not going to give him a second chance after that. he was like, listen, I'm not really like as educated in this whole stuff as you are until I think maybe it was Brittany or one of the other women was like, well, if he says he's willing to learn, then that's like, you know, he's willing to learn. Maybe you should give him another shot.
So it's like she was ready to like pull the plug just because he
Thank you.
It's probably because you came on.
I mean, 10 episodes in Georgia.
Wow.
And then Dorit comes in and they're like, sorry, we already met with your husband.
because a lot of these lawyers also can mediate i believe but well i once again like i'm waiting for the time i disagree with both yeah i want to be her friend she's on the money wish sutton would have said i have been sitting in your living room for 45 minutes and like then you're gonna say something about my drinking like yeah i'm out of here
Like, I wish she would have called out how long she'd been sitting there. Maybe she wasn't aware. Maybe that was like just editing, doing a great job. But waiting alone for 45 minutes in someone's house, like at a party, at an event is crazy.
if I walked into a house and it was a jump house with little kids I didn't know and I was like who where am I first of all and there's no one in the house you do not see Dorit you're like hello hello and no one's saying anything and so you just sit there on your phone like and then 45 minutes pass like I'm sorry and she comes down and ignores you I'd be like okay I mean yeah I thought everyone was off their rocker this episode except for both like I mean Dorit I don't know what was that whole moment when she's like I'm gonna keep this bag like what that was the craziest moment ever
She just turned one beginning of this month.
What else was she going to do? Go and chat with like the kids going down the inflatable slide? Like, no, she she did what anyone would do when you walk somewhere and you're uncomfortable. You sit on your phone. That's exactly what she did.
It goes so fast. I honestly had a moment the night before her birthday and I was like putting her to bed and I was crying and I was like, I must have just been like blacked out. How did it go by this fast? Like there's no way.
It does make me so mad, though, that they don't say that stuff in person, like in the moment. I'm like, I get that you film this a couple months later. You're just like, put yourself back in that scenario. But it's like you couldn't have been sitting there and be like, Garcelle, you speak for Sutton constantly. And like now you have, you know, like I just wish sometimes they would say these things.
Also, I haven't heard the word douche in I don't know how long.
Her brain froze and she was like, douche. Douche.
Listen, I also will say I have pulled that joke before of being like, oh my God, that's a huge Chanel. Like, do you want me to take it off your hands and I can take it home? But the way that Dorit was like straight stone cold, would not release her grip on that bag, was like almost left her house with it, was crazy. And the awkwardness, everyone was just like, um. It's also a $29,500 bag.
She built his empire.
She got the short end of the stick with 300 grand a month.
He's like farting out 300 grand a month. If you can just give that away a month, how much are you making?
It was nice to see Carl and Dorit have a moment at the end.
Yeah, that was weird.
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That is why you are on TV. That is why, yeah, it is good.
She's so funny. Right? I would die. Yeah.
Very nervous about the craft services and the potty.
The potty.
But you did insane things. Like, you jumped off of a moving boat onto a flying helicopter.
I was so dumb to do that. Like, I could have really gotten hurt.
Thank you.
Does she still think you could do better? I don't know. That's just really my big takeaway.
Yeah, you're very versatile.
Okay.
She is.
I just love the idea that she thought that you wanted to be stretched topless, bush out.
Maybe she's actually the TikToker that said full bush in a bikini.
The lawyer went on Megyn Kelly and was like, is this the type of thing that somebody who was protecting his wife would do? Maybe. And make a joke about it? Probably.
No. I've gotten close, but never. I've gotten close. I've coasted. What happened to you?
It just makes me think of the SNL sketch Bowen Straight. Have you seen that? Bowen Straight with when Sidney Sweeney hosted SNL. She did a like a pre-tape sketch with Bowen Yang. What was basically Bowen Yang was lying about being gay the whole time. And he was actually hooking up with Sidney Sweeney. It's really funny. And it's really smart because it leans into her whole thing as well.
Like she's not doing that.
Her and Glenn Powell were very cozy.
I think it was marketing.
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Don't let the propaganda get to your brain.
100%.
Yeah. Yeah. What? It happens to a lot of people. Catfish has been running for how many years?
I mean, the Salt Lake City cast got fooled by a fake Trixie Mattel in Milwaukee.
Trixie sent a fake Trixie.
That's crazy.
That just looks like a woman.
Fair enough.
And Dorinda was drunk.
Multiple people told her apparently what was being said.
Yeah, this is very confusing. It took reading this like five times for me to actually understand what even the rumor was.
Right.
I mean, you were full of yourself as a man, apparently. Well, I mean, was it the third? That's hard to argue. It's hard.
Was it good? Well, she's... She's popping up in the Twitter comments right now about traitors. Basically, there was a tweet reading, I will absolutely not be rooting for the traitors. How are you going to, this is not Chanel, by the way. How are you going to kill Dorinda and Ayan who are both giving us all the entertainment?
Bob knew they were going to steal his screen time and he couldn't have that. I hope Dylan gets his ass. And Ayan then responded, it was all about this. So she's being shady.
I do.
I watched that and I enjoyed it and I forgot. It is very enjoyable. Yeah. It's good. They're really wholesome. My question is.
My question is, does this name, Miss Guided, make Bob the drag queen Dylan Efron's drag mother? Because if we know anything about drag, when you name someone- I don't.
A lot of time in drag- You have a drag mother? Drag queens will have a drag mother, and they'll help you, shape you, take you on as one of their own. And I think Bob might- Technically be Dylan Efron's drag mother.
Well, I mean, you can. I mean, you can disown your drag children. Your drag children could maybe disown you.
The drama is drama. They're drag queens. They have drama. But anyway.
Yeah.
Right.
So you're part of the Vibes now? Yeah, so I'm part of Vibes. We're just having a time, just running our mouth about things we don't know anything about. It's actually really fun over here. We're just yapping to yap. Yeah.
They did. The Philadelphia Eagles fan Ryan Caldwell has been fired from his job.
Committed. Committed.
You're trying to de-escalate and also protect your fiance. Exactly.
That's the crazy part. What?
Okay, well, good thing they got him out of there.
Yeah. Packers fan. Yeah, she's a Packers fan.
Interesting. Well. They're dramatic. For sure. For sure. Totally. Not great for the Eagles fans. And this week, we're talking about the LA Rams versus the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, I will immediately be going Rams. Yeah. Because of this past story. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Well, the Eagles beat the Packers, so fuck the Eagles. Yeah. LA Strong.
But one really nice little thing about the Eagles that's happening isn't actually about the Eagles, but the people of Philly did get a crossover between Quinta Brunson's hilarious and incredible Abbott Elementary and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The Eagles are mentioned many times in it. Charlie Lurge to read for the first time. And it was great. So shout out to Philly.
But Abbott Elementary is filmed in Burbank.
Great show, hilarious episode, incredible episode, but for the Rams.
I've been to Pittsburgh many times, so I can't really like support Philly necessarily, but I do like the TV shows that are set there. Anyway, to get into the Los Angeles Rams, obviously the Rams were not able to play their playoff game last week against the Vikings in LA because of the fires. The game was relocated to Glendale, Arizona.
Only the second playoff game in NFL history to not be played at a team's home stadium. Last time this happened was in 1936. Oh, wow. because a Boston game had to be relocated to New York because of low ticket sales during the Depression. So that was the only other time this has ever happened to a playoff game. There was football in the 30s? Yeah. Yeah, what?
The vibes have been vibing for many, many decades.
Yeah.
Yeah. But anyway, Arizona Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell sent two team planes to Los Angeles to help the Rams get their 335 person entourage, players, the players, families and two dogs to Arizona. Rams tight end Tyler Higbee referred to it as Noah's Ark going over to Arizona. So they flew out like everyone in their families to keep them safe.
I think that's something to that effect. I think something like that happened because they just they didn't want to take up space at SoFi in case it was needed for like evacuations to help people. But Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and his wife Kelly organized free charter buses for season ticket holders and fans who were able to transfer their tickets.
taking them directly from SoFi to Arizona. On the sidelines, Rams players and staff wore LAFD hats and shirts, and the arena was painted to resemble the Rams blue and gold in order to make it feel like as much of a home game as possible.
Rams running back Kyron Williams said before the game, There's a feeling amongst the team, this is for LA, this is for hope back home that they can cling on to, that the Rams are going to be the people who can take away from whatever they're going through for a few hours. The Rams did in fact beat the Vikings 27-9.
Yeah.
And you put an air freshener in there.
Have you ever seen the Seinfeld episodes, The Smelly Car?
Yes. That's what you're experiencing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The valet has BO.
I didn't know any of that.
Oh, I thought TikTok should have been banned in general, but just because I think it's rotting people's brains. But now to know the actual legalese behind it, I thought the government was kind of being petty and annoying. Like Mark Zuckerberg was being petty. Yeah. And my my whole thing was kind of like the what about like what about Meadow? What about Elon Musk?
What about all of the United States backed corporations that are selling our information?
I would rather nobody have our information. Well, for sure. But that's always been my take on it. But to hear the actual detailed complaint is terrifying. And it just makes me think about literally having my computer open right now.
Everyone's got it.
Jen Show is very charming.
That hyperventilating. Anytime you have a forehead vein, you're in the wrong.
This is an incredible article.
Okay, so basically, amid murmurs of an upcoming TikTok ban, users have taken the unique opportunity to do and say the things they've previously left undone and unsaid.
Both and the editors clocking her immediately, though. It was really, really funny.
TikTok's final words is to quote, full bush in a bikini. It was this girl on TikTok. It all started with a still unfound Etsy review. where the customer in question posted her thoughts on a bikini with a personal photo in tow.
One out of all of them?
Justice for Little Caesars.
He wants to order a pizza from Chuck E. Cheese. Can you order it, Justin?
Only if somebody accuses me of being a lesbian while we're eating it.
Garcelle said this is definitely the unspoken thing that nobody brings up.
Although the image is widely unseen, one TikToker, who has posted about the beauty of body hair before, came across the review, and she just said in her video, repeating it over and over, full bush in a bikini. Full bush in a bikini. She was radicalized by that Etsy review, for real. Like, yeah, that's how it should be. But now that video has 14 million views, and...
The discourse is discoursing and people are like, bushes are so hot. I don't care, commented one user. And what about it?
One user.
That was crazy.
She's boring. She's anorexic. She's no fun. Okay, well, fine. Oh, and that's what she... That's what he said about his girlfriend?
Like... Which is insane to say about anyone. Anyone.
The woman you love.
I will say, female DJ, much cooler than male DJ in my eyes. For sure. I can support a female reality TV DJ.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Do guys shave their balls? Do guys shave their balls?
Get it right? She's like, they were tall.
I don't know. I know.
What does that mean? Also, TJ spreading rumors that Joe Bradley was gay.
This article also references the Real Housewives of New York City. I guess in the most recent episode, Jenna Lyons shared a photo of her own straight haired bush with her castmates. Straight haired bush. Jenna Lyons, I guess, has a straight haired bush.
I don't know. Pupes typically have texture.
I think body hair, like all bodies are all different.
You can't stretch. Is that all the acid you've let out of your body with your fast?
Ever. You don't want to pick her up by her ass? He's not allowed. He's not allowed.
Sie hat zu ihrer Geschichte eine E-Mail veröffentlicht von ihnen, die sie DM'en, die sie gesagt hat, hey, schau dir heute Abend an, um Abend zu holen oder was auch immer, bevor sie zu Boom Boom oder so etwas gehen, um jemanden Geburtstag zu feiern. Anyways, long story short, she showed up thinking that because they sent the DM that her meal was comped.
But also, as Justin said, she showed up with two extra people. So I'm assuming that they were like.
She claims that she's a regular at this restaurant and that she always gets comped. So this is the first time where she was not and she was like, what the hell is happening here?
If you feel so inclined.
And that would usually work, yeah. Yeah, they do that at hotel room service a lot too, where it's like the tip's already included, but they leave the gratuity line and you're just like, um, okay. And then you look back at your receipt and you're like, fuck.
When they care.
I was going to say it, but also I do wonder if this is like a fan speculation too, just because I'm like Tom was here and he said that Emeril wasn't there during last weekend and that he stayed in his room. So I'm like, I guess we'll see on Twitter. Ja, genau.
Du hörst zu deiner Frau. Du gehst nach Hause und ich war so, ich schreibe es runter. Okay, gut zu wissen.
Ich sagte, du weißt, sie ist schrecklich, weil es ist so, wenn du hochgehst, ist es, weil du nur hören willst. But hearing her go and wake him up in that bedroom.
Nuts.
I mean, they caught him. Remember? He walked in with Jasmine.
But, like, Jasmine said, like, that they just walked in.
But also the way, we talked about this last episode, but it's like the way that they're using her as a personification of a golden retriever emotional dog. She literally just shows up in the middle of anybody's fight and it's just like, hold my hand. Okay, calm me down. You look beautiful. I would take pictures of you. I'm like, girl, she just threw a glass of tequila in this man's face.
Michelle, come on.
Cheater and a liar.
Because that's where I'm like, even, and I understand it's a reality TV show, but I'm just like, even then, if you wanted to have an amicable weekend, make a phone call, send a text, but instead you drink two bottles of Prosecco and greeted everybody at the door with white flags saying, Michelle, you need this the most. Where did you think this was going to Hey, I know that we some shit went down.
I said some things that were fucked up, but like I would like to try to have a nice weekend this weekend.
But she doubled down on him spending all of the money.
I've never been to Monet. Yeah.
He was like, I think you can make it down the hill. I was like, alright, Kristen, get it. Tell you what not to do is hitchhike.
No. I related to Kristen at the end of the episode. Jessie's just like, you're still yelling at no one. And I was like, I feel that. I just want my opinion out there. I've been silent for two hours. I was like, say your shit, Kristen.
Do you have to go back to that one? Wait, that's such a good point. That's my question. Yeah, that I don't know.
What about Luke's whole past being a little mermaid? Respected. Yeah, I understand it.
But remember it was HBO, HBO Max and HBO Go.
HBO Go und HBO Go at the same time.
Mein Freund und ich haben darüber gesprochen, weil es so ist, dass Danny sagt, das ist nicht in meinem Charakter, was er gemacht hat, als er trank war und was er gemacht hat. Aber Conor ist so, das ist ein roter Flagg für mich, weil es sagt, dass das nicht in meinem Charakter ist, aber du hast es gemacht. So it's like you're still not taking any sort of accountability for your actions.
You're saying, oh, Patricia, that wasn't me. And it's like, no, that's still you. So take accountability for what you did and that you have a problem when you go too far.
You needed a subscription for something or a cable.
No, she was definitely giving Jax energy during that whole bit, where it's just like, I give so much, I do everything. And it's like, that was so Jax, like, I share every bit of my life and you guys don't do anything. And he used to have freakouts like that all the time.
But also what was concerning is just, not concerning because it's reality television and it's them, but it's just like seeing the soullessness behind their eyes because they've been drinking since the beginning of the morning that I was just like, I gotta give you credit, because one way that I would never want to be caught on camera for the masses to see is me two sheets gone.
You can provide healthcare up to 26, 28. I feel like you should be allowed to share passwords with your children. Exactly. That's how I feel about a phone plan.
He changed his name from Diddy to Love. Let me clarify that.
Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy, Love. Yeah, see, you know.
Und einige von den Sachen, die sie gehört hat, sind Sachen, die Menschen niemals erleben sollten. Mein Herz ist wirklich gebrochen, dass sie das auf dem Stand jetzt erzählt hat. Und all diese Sachen haben angefangen, als sie 22 war. Ja. Wo es einfach so ist, um deinen Freund glücklich zu machen und eine erfolgreiche Karriere zu haben.
Und die Sachen, die er ihr zugegeben hat, sind absolut traumatisierend.
Also, ich denke, Elisabeth Wagenmeister ist da, auf der Seite, ja, coveren, coveren den Fall. Wir müssen sie zurückbringen. They said the lines to get into the trial is around the corner. People are there first thing in the morning.
You have to fight for it. You have to get there probably first, because don't you get wristbands or something? I've also never sat in. I want to so badly, but I don't want to do jury duty. You've never done jury duty? I've gotten out of it the last few times. Don't come for me.
Not when you have to be there.
The amount of times I've been to restaurants and I'm just eating next to a giant boob.
Es war wie eine europäische Schauspielerin. Sie hatte einen riesigen, langen Train, der Jesus, den Heiligen, auf dem Hintergrund hatte. Und sie versuchte, es auszulösen.
Ein Schritt-und-Repeat-Geräusch, der ein paar Steine hochging. Und diese eine Frau, die die Sicherheitswaffe hatte, war stark am Arm, die sie drückte. Und sie war so, don't touch me, schreien. Es war wie ein Kampf auf dem roten Karpfen.
Sie würde sie direkt da drüben drücken. Aber gleichzeitig ist es eine Zeitzeremonie.
Aber der rote Karpfen ist der Grund, warum du Publikation hast.
Back to back. Are you going to the same restaurant? What is happening?
Also dark lit on the inside and very much could have had privacy on the inside.
Because you weren't called paparazzi. The only two people on the internet.
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Producers holding the signs being like, applause.
And it would have been way... It would have been awesome. Yeah. It would have been crazy.
It was Justin.
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Yeah. They're like, you were kissing our ass. Like you were obsessed with us.
Brittany Cartwright also does come out and say that she did drug tests on Jax Taylor every week for the safety of their son.
I do drug testing on Jax every Monday. It scares me. I'm drug testing him myself for the safety of my son, and I'm going to continue doing that for a while. I just feel like it's so hard because even if he is sober, his actions have not changed.
Well, I'm sure she doesn't want to like take his father away from him. So she's like, why is she administering?
Yeah.
Yeah. Who is left? I don't think. I mean, Ashley and Ben are probably the only. Because Jared and Dean squashed theirs.
I mean, she's, to this day, cannot...
didn't didn't their 10 year. Wasn't it wasn't it this month, March? And that's and we were all like, oh, maybe he's trying to divorce her before the 10 years, because then it's like, yeah, but I don't think he has the money.
Wow.
I don't know. I think it was like the jeweler talking about that transaction with Lisa, I think is a huge red flag. I mean, my mom was a jeweler for 20 years and was like, that is rule number one. Like you never talk about- Like HIPAA laws. Yeah. Yeah. HIPAA. Yeah. Literally. And so I think maybe there was a little bit of like conspiracy between the two of them. I think the jeweler like
definitely liked Lisa maybe a little bit more than Bronwyn and was like, oh, I'll help you bring some ammo to the reunion.
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Have you been watching Denise and her wild things?
What do you think?
So I was kind of like, did watching it like change your opinion on why she decided or were you just like, well, okay. Got it.
For someone who was like, I mean, such a fucking star at a young age, she really is like super down to earth. So down to earth.
And I love it. You wrote that shopping scene. Yes. That's an iconic scene.
She put it on YouTube and was like, I hope a Bachelor producer finds this.
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Yeah. Well, it was years ago. It definitely isn't currently, but it might have been when business cards were popping.
There was a time in my life when I wanted a business card.
Yeah.
I would never kill you. I don't even have a way off the top of my head. Probably poison. Okay.
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I don't think I would do that. That feels, you know.
Well, it feels like, A, a lot of work, you know? Like, you gotta find the inmate, then you gotta, like, communicate with the inmate.
It is crazy to see the difference in villas, you know, with all the women and their whipped cream and their lingerie. And then the guys are like, so do you want to make a drink or do you want to chat?
It's like, there's just, come on, you know?
But yeah, that dynamic is... You don't want chocolate licked off your abs?
Ghost Adventures.
What do you think is the most insane thing you've seen on the set? Insane? Yeah.
Y'all don't remember that show?
Right.
I don't know. I feel like we could probably take allegedly out of this. The evidence is damning.
Do you feel like a lot of them use the excuse of like, well, I just watched her like say that like she doesn't want this man or I'm embarrassing to her. So like, fuck it, I'll just go and like do this with this girl.
Could you imagine, because obviously they all sit in the swings and the temptresses and the tempters put their bracelets on who they're interested in. Could you imagine if you're sitting beside your boyfriend of three years and no one's coming to put their bracelet on him? Could you imagine the ick that that would give you?
Yeah.
The way that he talked about their like bedroom, like their sex physicality.
I mean, like, she's not as freaky as me.
That's why I think it's nice that they do show them in the moment. And it's not like, oh, let's get home. We're fine. Everything's fine. Let's watch it back and be like, what?
No, no, no. She reached out to someone in jail to find a hitman.
She's insane. Girl in the picnic bikini's insane.
Which one?
Yeah, it was so catty. And one of them, I don't remember. Oh, I think it was. I don't know if it was Ashley or Taylor, but she was talking about Kay. And she's like, yeah, her hair is fake as fuck. Yeah. Like those extensions are awful. They look like. Not holding back.
I do. Like Nick said last night, he was like, I appreciate them, like, giving the tempters and temptresses, like, airtime. They humanize.
It's also, I will say it's also hard to watch the like, women are just so hot and naturally like sexy. And then to watch the men like try to flex and be hot is so icky.
She was just giving people money so that they could get the new iPhone 16 Plus Pro Max. $2,000?
I kind of took the stance of when at the reunion, when we talked about Ben, you know, reaching out to you and wanting to get on the same page before reunion. You kind of took that as it felt scripted. It felt like he was you. It made you question a lot of his previous acts.
I kind of was under the impression of like, if you leave a relationship kind of mutually, like no one really fucks anyone over that bad. It's like, hey, we all have, like you said, been through this experience. We know like what the Internet can be like. Let's kind of try to protect each other as much as possible.
And like if there's something we need to like hash out, maybe we do that privately between the two of us and not on national television. So like, do we want to get on the same page again?
Do not stress enough. Do not read comments. Yeah. Ignorance is bliss. Get outside. Yeah.
Any advice? Tell me.
Sometimes you have to like, I, the amount of times I delete TikTok off my phone, I delete Instagram off my phone. I limit comments. I only allow certain, you know, friends and family to, like, you just can't allow people to have access to you. And I think blocking that off is very, very self-serving. And I think you, it helps a lot.
Take some more time.
You know, he was probably in Australia playing a show, scouring Raya, had a little match session.
Yeah, I'm in your city.
I don't know. Maybe she's like, I don't know. I met this guy. He's really nice. He's charming. He's this. And then you have Zach being like, here's my side of the story. And she's like, you know what? Like, I have you in front of me. I don't have.
I mean, I wish nothing terrible on her. I hope that he's like learned from his mistakes with Brianna and like doesn't do that behavior anymore going forward. So maybe he opened up to her about like how he's learned and he's gotten help and he's better and he's.
I think that's pretty slow.
Like he's not the one who's going to be like, oh, I need to like hide this relationship for privacy reasons.
allegedly like so I think they're both moving on and he's he clearly doesn't give a fuck we've seen that all along so why start now you know okay
Why?
Weren't you Team Rose, like, die hard when this was happening? Like, weren't you and Ciara, like, literally, fuck, Carolina, this is... Roll the flashbacks. Yeah, wasn't I arguing with you? Yeah.
How have you switched so quickly?
I think we have a bigger dilemma than this.
Sure.
That too. My biggest dilemma. Definitely.
I can't sleep at night. It was going to be Rosa Carolina, but now canceled because of this. No, I mean, that is kind of fucked up. Apparently, Rachel Rechia said that they had already picked one and she knew who it was.
That they've already picked one?
But they definitely don't pick the fan favorite. We've seen that time and time again.
Cross-contamination.
I think there's a deeper rooted thing here and maybe we should dig. Should we dig? Okay. But I have a bigger dilemma. Oh. and what I'm trying to get out here, people.
It was like get on your hands and knees and put a treat in his hand and wanted her to crawl over and eat the tree out of his hand type of thing.
I'm losing my mind. If you're the first in bed, do you have to run the nightly errands? Oh my God. If you're the first in bed. We almost got divorced. Like you both? We almost got divorced. What's the nightly errands? Like getting the water, locking up the doors, turning off the lights, turning off the TV, letting out the dogs. That doesn't make any sense. If you're the first in bed.
What if he got in bed and was like, no, you go get the water. That would be crazy. That's crazy.
You're already in bed. So whoever's in bed first.
The other night- That takes effort for you to crawl into bed, by the way. It does. The other night, I'm in bed, cuddly, snuggly, warm, under the covers, very cozy.
You know, so it was like.
Sure.
Not very well, so I have to double check.
But you also ask for that water in the middle of the night.
I think both of theirs, obviously. She's 57. Did you watch it?
Oh, right. You share water. Continue.
What were they?
Minions. Do you?
Whenever you're ready to hear the truth, you can circle back to me.
That's not true. You weren't ready for bed. I was absolutely ready for bed.
Yeah. But, you know, it definitely it went a lot of places. I didn't see it going. There was a lot of like, oh, my God.
Talk your shit. That was really good.
That was a really good snort. Talk your shit. So the truth.
No, no, no. Let me go. Just let me go. He doesn't want your side. He knows you're right. That's enough. You're done. He's stalling. So the truth to the matter is Nick does his own nightly routine. He's got all these like pills. He's popping vitamins. He's taking shots. So he's like, he lets the dogs out to pee. And he makes the water.
And then when he lets the dogs out to pee, he's got to shut the door. We have the sliding door. So we put those little poles up behind the door so no one can break in for my intruder syndrome. Lock the doors, turn the lights off. I'm back there scrubbing my face, doing my 16 step nightly routine, which I feel like is a little bit more strenuous than what he's doing out there.
I managed to finish before he comes back. get in bed, pull the covers up, quite cozy.
9.30.
And so.
I'm like, let's watch our show because we didn't get, we had to watch all of our homework. So I'm like, let's watch our show in bed. He's like, okay, cool. And I'm like, where's the remote? He's like, I don't know. I'm like, is it on your side? He's like, no. And I'm like, well, could you go and get the one in the living room? Takes off his clothes, gets in the bed. No. No.
It was a nice way to pass.
I'm like, are you serious? He's like, I'm not doing that. I don't need it. I don't need it. So then I'm like, okay, well then I'll sing myself to sleep. So I start singing. Then he opens his laptop and he starts getting on Twitter doing whatever the hell he's doing. He's like, I don't need the TV. I can do research. And I'm like, okay. So then I get my Kindle and I'm like, I can read.
She was asleep. She was napping. She was napping. And I thought, hmm, what a good time to watch this movie that I've heard so many mixed reviews about. And I will say, Harry Dickinson. Harris Dickinson. Harris Dickinson.
I start reading out loud. And then he turns on music. Reading out loud. He turns on music.
It was that easy.
It is though. When you're the last in bed, it is your job to do. Sorry, it's a race and I beat you that day.
It is shotgun. It's shotgun rules.
Total shotgun rules. So anyways, glad we got that covered. Did y'all see that Mandy Moore posted about Amazon delivering a package to her in-laws house that had burnt to the ground? So messed up. Like just left this package on top of burnt bubble.
amazon amazon you took you put it down in front of a non-house you show up to the address and you're like i feel like that one can go back to the factory like right i think the driver is definitely at fault i think the driver is delivering to the address that i mean listen i get it i wouldn't do it but you're doing your job you know what i mean but really you're gonna set that package right there and be like oh they'll come and get it if i ring the doorbell like
Come on, you couldn't put it back on the truck, take it back to the warehouse and be like, hey, so this house is burned down.
handsome man easy to be like okay i want to watch him and nicole kidman but it was just very odd it was really odd i think my my main takeaway is like i wish it i think it would have landed better with the women if it was like a little bit more relatable was harris more appealing to you in the first five minutes of the movie or in the last five minutes of the movie good question
You added more work to yourself by stopping, finding the package, getting out of the car, leaving it on the rubble, getting back. You added yourself another five minutes.
Keep going.
I don't think that driver was thinking of anybody but his lazy ass self that day. Do you think they were Gen Z? I don't know. But Amazon did respond. And Amazon put out a statement saying, we've reached out to Miss Moore via Instagram.
Their social media marketing person for Amazon DM'd her to apologize for this and to ask for more information from her in-laws so we're better able to investigate what happened here.
They said, for weeks, we've advised those who are delivering on our behalf in Southern California to use discretion in areas that were impacted by wildfires, especially if it involves delivering to a damaged home. That clearly didn't happen here. So they put out a wide spread being like, hey, don't do that.
And Tony was like, hey, I'm going to leave it anyways.
Why do we think this is?
I think there's also a lot of, like, employers can't be, like, stern and strict with their employees. Or direct. Whereas, like, I thrived when I was in the workforce. I thrived on, like, I needed someone to be like, you have to do better. Like, absolutely not. That's not going to work. Like, I needed that. Interesting. And it would, like, if I did not perform well, it would make me emotional.
I would cry. Like, I needed to be. And I don't think a lot of people are.
Yeah.
Is this the same guy that it was like zoomed in really far and it was like Paige and mystery guy or she looks like she's in a relationship already.
Definitely the first, for sure. But then it's weird because then it's all about she has this affair on her husband. Her husband's this French man. And then he ends up submissing the husband. Is that the right word? Dominating the husband.
Oh, yeah, that seems to be true, right?
Yeah, so am I. I struggle with that.
Even worse. It's a man purse. I feel like it's a crossbody and it's close to a fanny pack.
They were just at a pediatrician appointment together.
Maybe they're still co-parenting.
Well, she posted a picture being like a baby's two month appointment or whatever. And a man was holding her. I would imagine the man holding her would be the father of the baby.
Or it's her pediatrician.
No man purse. But it was giving like lobby of pediatrician dad holding baby about to go back is what it was giving.
What?
Harris. So it's like he has some superpower.
are they aren't they doesn't seem like she posts with him or like she doesn't post at all really anymore and then all of a sudden it was like not wearing a ring in videos I think I really struggle with Mormon wives because I can see how hard they're working to get people to watch season two and it's like it's very transparent to me and it's like hard for me to believe anything that they say or do when they're like oh they unfollowed each other oh my god these two are beefing it's like y'all are really just trying to get that you know it's hard for me to find it believable
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, not to that extent, but definitely to an extent where you're like, I wouldn't expect that to be his reaction.
Because she was going back and forth with, like, wearing a ring and not wearing a ring. And the amount of times that I, like, don't, like, I only wear my band and, like, won't wear my engagement ring around the house. And, like, if people, I don't know, I'm sure people will see that and be like, why isn't she wearing her engagement ring?
I'm like, are we the issue? Yeah. Honestly, most of the times I think we are. Yeah.
I was like, girl.
My 16-year-old self is quaking. Yeah. Not quaking. Me too. Me too.
Legend.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
No, no, no, no, no, no. It's like he's having a panic attack. And who does he go to for relief? The man who has been fucking his wife. When you say relief, like a therapist?
And Nicole tries to help him. This is very spoiler alert. So if anyone was trying to watch this movie, I'm very sorry.
I was giving a review. Yeah.
Thank you.
It's been out since Christmas Day. We're in February. We're in the FYC campaign. Christmas Day. Yeah. So he's having a panic attack. And his wife tries to comfort him, Nicole Kidman. And he's like, not you. And then Harris Dickinson is like, come here. Come here. And he's coming to Harris. So very interesting. Very odd. Would I watch it again? I would not. Hot. Would I recommend it? Probably not.
Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah. But if you love Nicole Kidman and like, I mean, she's a phenomenal actress. So it was like fun to, you know.
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Do you think the family who lived in Sutton's hometown knew that her father had killed himself in that room?
Right?
Yeah. My dad, in that room that y'all love so much, actually, I mean, I feel like that has to be in...
You sign, you close on the house and it's like, and there was a death in here. You've got to know that before you buy a house, right?
Don't they have to disclose?
That's my first question. Any house I've, we've, you know, been house shopping and it's like you go in and it's like, has anyone died here? I need to know that. Has anyone died here? Am I going to be haunted by ghosts?
I think anything's possible. You've never been in the same room with one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's like a community college, I think. Maybe.
But, you know, we're not going to do it on here. All right. What are you making of the whole Paige and Craig breakup? Oh.
All the goats like nibbling on her designer shirt.
I can get the platforms. But I will say, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Oh, yeah, I know. Why? What did he do? What did I do? It wasn't Nick. Physically or metaphorically. It was my own doing. What did you do? I took a shower last night, washed my hair and did not get all the conditioner out. And I found out this morning the back of my head is like a swamp ass back there.
That's a commitment.
Right. It's not like, yeah, it's not like he adopted a cat. He was like, I mean business, I got bees. You can't just drop the bees off at a foster, a humane society.
You could just open the top.
There was the one in November and then the one when she announced it on their podcast.
And it's like he could have healed and then now to have the whole world know and questioning and seeing her date and seeing all this, it's like he's going through it again.
So don't look. Yeah.
He's around the opposite sex. He's moved on. He's single.
Don't look at the back. The back is out of my business. I can't see it. I don't know what's going on.
Are you into Southern hospitality at all? Have you gotten into that? I haven't. Were you a Vanderpump rules?
He was late and came in with the photo of him with the like endangered species tiger. Yeah. What? And was like, here you go, Nick. And Schwartz was like, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Get this out of here. No.
Right. No one's taking any of his theories seriously. Although he did. Post-Boston Raw. Right. He shot down the giant.
I do think he will not get... I think he'll get murdered. I don't think he'll get voted out. I think that will be his exit will be murdered because he just won't shut up about Danielle or Carolyn or one of the new traitors. And they'll be like, oh my God, we just got to kill Tom because he just won't shut up about us. I don't think everyone at the round table is going
He was like, look, I think it likes you more than me. It's crawling off my hand. He was like naming that. I wanted to take them home. It was so sweet.
Like a weighted blanket? What is it? It's like we're giving you a neck pillow, a weighted neck pillow for the airplane ride home. Feels like a hose. It says traitors on it.
It's memorabilia. It's engraved. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. But honestly, I feel like in that scenario, ignorance is bliss. And just being like, I don't know what it is. I don't want to know what it is. If anyone would have said a snake, I probably would have freaked out. But in my own head, I probably would have been telling myself.
It's a weighted neck pillow.
They just want to see you do the best that you can. They just don't want to see you trying to slack out of anything. That's true, yeah. It's literally about not quitting. If you're like, I can't sprint, but I'm doing the best I can, then like, yeah. I'm yelling at you, but they definitely won't disqualify you for not sprinting.
For sure. And then you get in there and it's probably just a mind fuck. I mean, that's what every time we interview one, that's kind of what they say when we're like, it's so obvious, Danielle. And they're like, it's really not like we've definitely thought her a few times, but like it's not as obvious.
Oh, 100%.
But even they were like, no, that was suspicious. Why didn't she? But then nobody went down that path.
True.
Yeah, you have to think of it as like, I am an Oscar winning actress.
And I'm filming a movie.
And I will shine. Yes. Not like I'm lying to my closest loved ones. Yes, yes. Exactly.
I'm like, is he drawing this out?
Was that not the most confusing conversation to follow? Which one? With Dorit being like, he... We had a conversation. And he was normal PK. Yeah, and it was like, no, he didn't say that. It was she, he, they were saying that. And then the kids were... Nick and I were like, do you follow? What the fuck they're talking about? It was confusing. Well, I didn't even pick up on that. Story ever.
But then finally they were like, no, when they broke it down of like he is trying to like corner you and calm you down so that you don't strike back. It all made sense. But for a while there, I was like, whoa, whoa, do we?
Is that why he goes to London a lot? Oh, no. To see his other kids? You're also onto something. Because they never talk about that. A real detective. She lives in England.
He acts like he is equivalent to Mo.
No, Nick was like 50 when it came out. There you go. That's mean. I was a junior in high school.
I'm like, I just... It is interesting that a judge ordered Justin and his team to shut the fuck up. Oh, did he? He was like, we will never get a jury that is unbiased if you keep putting stuff out there. You've got to stop. It's got to all be in court.
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He also doesn't say, when I was dancing with Carolina, I was thinking about you. They were all dancing on stage at some point. So, like, he could have just been like, while everyone was dancing on stage, I was thinking about you. He didn't specify Carolina.
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Thank you.
Well, Rose did say her and Carolina were having a private conversation while getting ready. And that's when. Yeah.
I think the biggest takeaway is Bachelor needs to, and maybe you can give us some insight in if they'd ever do this. They need to go Bravo. But go Bravo and give us a flashback.
They could be messier. They are taking, I mean, like they did the Casa Amor on Bachelor in Paradise. Like they, they aren't against like changing the secret sauce, the, you know, the ingredients to the show.
But that would have been the perfect example to do that because they knew it would stir up something online of people like pulling back the footage. It's like, you might as well just show us.
Have you reached out to Sierra, um, or Dylan, the people that were really shocked by your trader-ness?
are you tired of playing the games? Like, is there any part of you that's ready to retire? Or are we going to see you on a seventh season of survivor or special forces or another show?
You know, I wish it would have been maybe a little bit more relatable kinks.
Absolutely. So you lost to your wife in Survivor. Did she give you any tips going into Trader?
What has been your girl's reaction?
I love him so much. I love him so much.
No, I mean, he was like heart robbed. Yeah, Heart Rob.
I saw pictures. He was so good.
He's still in there, Nick.
I saw it. Look at him. He was like 26. He was young when he went on in the first season, I think.
No, he was like, yeah, he was definitely the heartthrob for sure. I mean, six seasons. And he never won. I think he did. Oh, he did. I think he did. Yeah. I mean, I know his wife won the season they were on together. It was like season eight. I think that's an incredible story. Right.
Took him a while, but he got there.
If someone, if, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you are in the bed first.
If you're in the bed first, do you run the errands? Like the nighttime errands, like gotta get the water, gotta lock the doors, turn off the lights, turn on the fan, do like all the things?
Yes. Yes. Well then you're just smarter.
This is what dreams are made. That's what I just kept singing. He was like, shut up. Get out of the bed. Go get the remote. And then I started reading my book out loud.
For every meal. No. For every meal. If we're sitting down for supper together, for breakfast, lunch, we make one big thing of water.
Yeah.
Oh, my God. It's my favorite thing ever. I couldn't live without it. It's my favorite thing ever. There's nothing better than getting cozy and cuddling and watching a movie in a dark, cold bedroom.
Maybe. But it's up for debate.
I don't need it to fall asleep. But I do love to like get in the bed after a long day and like lay down and cuddle and be warm and cozy and watch a show. Turn off the show.
But I don't watch it to go to sleep. No, no, I'm just saying in general.
Well, I didn't ask you.
Have Nick get the big gulp. Nick get the big gulp. Nick find the remote. I won't be singing.
I support it. No one has in person in the moment shamed us.
I need the straw.
Wow, that's cool. That's cool. You know, less dishes, I guess. That's true. Less dishes that I don't have to do.
Yeah, you're right.
Oh, boy. Oh, okay.
Yeah, if anyone's going to change the story, it would be Carolina.
If Rose would have said this to one of the other women who were there, because he did not say while Carolina and I were dancing. He just said while everyone was dancing or while we were dancing, you were on my mind. So if she would have gone to Latia and been like, oh my God, Grant said that he was thinking of me while everyone was dancing. Or like while y'all were dancing.
She wouldn't have been like, oh my god, I have to go to Grant and be like, what the fuck?
This was not porn, no. I mean, there was really not as much nudity as I went in expecting there to be.
Rose told Carolina about a private conversation she had with Grant.
We don't have the footage of that because it was off camera and off mic. So we don't have footage of that. We're just going off of what Carolina is saying back to Grant.
But Nicole Kidman does have an amazing pair of boobies, I will say. Good for her. We get to see them. We get to see Nicole Kidman's boobies. I don't know but anything Nicole Kidman does I'm a fan of I'll watch but like I said I wish it was maybe a little bit more relatable kinks I don't know and maybe this is me like kink shaming people but I don't know how many women want to be treated like a dog
But we don't know what he said because there was no footage.
Yeah.
Yeah. All the time.
It's on.
Yep.
Damn.
As he should be. So what?
All right.
The fluff is pretty easy. Nick.
Would she walk in?
And was it maybe rude? Maybe. Was it maybe true?
A lot of people ask for it, actually.
I'm just saying... To Katie's point, it is giving Saxon from White Lotus. Yeah, it totally is. When do you cross the line of just growing up yourself?
Right after the reunion part two, he just posted on his Instagram story a picture of him either exiting a door or walking in. And it says, it's better to admit you walked through the wrong door than to spend your life in the wrong room. What room is he talking about? I'm assuming with the read. The read? But...
She was like PK, like wasn't paying his payments because he wanted to confirm it was going through like the right process.
Exactly. Even her main road comment. Andy was like, so she lives off a main road in Bel Air. Like, that was your point.
After taxes.
It's because Dorit's just trying to poke at Sutton. Like in the second part, you'll see it. She does like, she keeps throwing jabs. And then she's like, this isn't the real Sutton that I know. And then finally Sutton kind of entertains it. And she goes, she's coming. And like says it into the mic. And it's like.
She gaslit Guy Talk.
Zion.
People are saying the USA Olympic team should hire Lori because there's like the scene of when Rick first shoots the dad. She's literally sprinting off. I don't know if you've seen the clip.
No.
I'm ready to go. So the leg room. She also got our bag check for free.
So I almost had to pay $100 and she just did it for me. And I was like, okay.
Nick also didn't know until recently that if you have a baby with you, you can like board early. In general? Period? Or Southwest? Yeah. Well, at least Southwest. I know that's a... Southwest.
Uh, last update that we got about power said 24 to 48 hours. So I'll be staying there again tonight and possibly tomorrow. Okay. I don't think this is a normal fire season either. Like this is clearly, um, we usually get Santa Ana winds at the end of August, September, and that's usually when our fire season is. Um,
They have a lot of money. A lot of money.
The buzz about all of this has died down, and she still filed a case against him. She doesn't need the money. She doesn't need to win something over in the court of public opinion. So I'm like, she clearly feels passionate enough to scope forward with filing a complaint against him based off of just, I feel like, the moral corruptness of what happened on that set.
This is very unique for it to be happening in January, but I've never even seen winds in California going 60, 80, 100 miles an hour. Oh, it was crazy last night.
Maybe I just feel personally about this, but I'm like, yes, it's your husband. But I don't feel like that's your information to share. It's one thing if you want to write a memoir about your life and like your interaction with him, but like exposing him personally. post death of addiction and abuse. I feel like that's just it makes me feel it's icky. Yeah.
Couldn't fly helicopters, couldn't do planes at night. Yeah, it's a terrible situation. The fire just raged all night.
Because she doesn't want anybody to be able to refute what's in the book.
Also, the gross thing is how he died. Everybody has a very positive outlook when it comes to Twitch. He was a really great TV personality on the Ellen show. He brought smiles to people's faces. It was very shocking as to like how he passed and to add this to his name and this is what he's going to be remembered for. Like that's that to me just rubs me the wrong way entirely.
And I think it's very disrespectful to her ex-husband or to her past husband.
To quote Courtney, this is by far the most tacky, classless, opportunistic act I've ever seen in my entire life. And the fact that anybody who attended his funeral had to sign an NDA, including her. That's...
Because I know who Twitch is. I don't know who Alison Holger is.
All she did was post a photo of her pregnancy test where I'm like, I would do a lot more for a lot less. And she got $100,000 for that. Come on now.
Amen. Especially pregnancy. I think it's weird that people care so much about how somebody's making money if it's not hurting anybody. Whether she's making a brand deal for shoes or a pregnancy test, why do you care? Monetize the moment.
I'll be trying in the next year, maybe. We'll be circling back for sure.
What? I'm raising my hand. Why?
And how long does this last?
And it works. Bait and switch.
He just seems like such a lovely guy.
I will say I'm never one to like pay attention to like breakups and things like that. And I love Paige, obviously. But Craig is one of those. If I were single, I would slide in those DMs. Say it with your chest. I can't because I love my boyfriend very much. But if I were single.
Yeah, he was like, it's just weird, you know, like, go talk to your best friend every day to, like, not at all, but, you know, we'll get there and adjust. And I was just like, it left back that he didn't say anything cruel or degrading about Paige. He only said, be nice to her, be kind to both of us. But, like, he's just...
Well, she talked about it on her podcast.
It kind of implied, in my opinion, listening to her, she was like, I'm not the same person I was when we started dating.
I'm in my 30s. We want different things. In her version, it seemed just very amicable, and it sounds in his version, too. It's amicable, but he didn't want that.
Decide that things don't work out.
But that's a long-term relationship. It's either you grow together or you grow apart. And it seems like neither one of them were planning on moving. And he was very adamant about wanting her to move to Charleston and get married and all that. And if that's not in the cards for her, I think that that's great that she decided...
As much as I love you and would want to make it work, this just doesn't work for where I'm at in my life right now. Yeah.
One of my predictions.
I don't know. It's kind of hard because it's like, I feel like sometimes when breakups like this happen and one person wants to get married so badly that I'm like, Craig could meet somebody and by December this year be engaged. I could see that because he wants that. And I could also see Paige coming out with like a... Hottie. Headlining. Yeah. Like actor or, you know.
Super rich or super famous. Absolutely. Austin Butler. Single. Single.
I don't know. I see her going kind of like, it's either going to be somebody that we all know, or it's going to be like a Lindsay Hubbard, like somebody that's very successful in their field that wants nothing to do with it.
Yeah, we'll see. Hugh Jackman.
Younger? Oh, yeah.
Solely Bravo.
Yeah, she's something you'll hear from my lawyer. See you in court.
Yeah. First prediction. Paige will announce new relationship with an actor. Yes, no. Yay.
A new relationship with an actor.
Athlete. All right. Next one. Ramona Singer will return to Bravo.
Yeah. Unfortunately.
Well, my next one was the new Roni put on pause.
Yeah, they've got to mix the old with the new. Winterhouse will return. They put it on pause last year. It was like the eclectic mix of Summer House, Vanderpump Rules, and then last season bombed with Below Deck characters.
Okay, next one is there will be an engagement on Real Housewives of Miami. I'm thinking Lisa.
But she's with a rich dude, so I feel like her season, there's a possibility.
No.
Sandoval and Schwartz will have a spinoff.
Absolutely not.
On Patreon.
Is Schwartz still dating Sophia?
No, anytime Schwartz posts, when he moved and everything, they don't post together in stories.
I don't even know if they're... I don't know. I think they might just be together.
We need an update.
Okay, I don't think this, but I did see this circulating. Brittany Cartwright gets pregnant this year. Hmm.
Yes.
Maybe also with an athlete. I feel like, yes. Yes. Nick says no.
Yeah, like a basketball player.
I see Paige more basketball than... Paige was at a basketball game.
I mean, those pants, don't lie. No new season of Real Housewives of New Jersey this year.
Pause. Okay. Kim Zolzak makes an appearance on Real Housewives of Atlanta. Do we think she's going to come back with all of her headlines? I want her back.
Yeah, I feel like she has to come back. An Ultimate Girls Trip with a younger cast. Women from Southern Charm, The Valley, VPR. Like, you know how they do Ultimate Girls Trip, but it's, like, Legacy or, like, Luann.
That's why I'm shocked. That's why I'm like, of course it's happening at home. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. We have our... For my demise. I love Ultimate Girls Trip. Yeah. We'll see. Okay, this one is really spicy. I was tired. And it's really bad, but I was like... Sierra and Craig get together. I said, I don't know why I feel like this could happen, but I do.
Engagement called off. Yes.
Was it because you could smell food being cooked and you were angry you couldn't partay?
One time I got a massage on a cruise ship. And you know how they play like instrumental whatever. And I realized like during my massage that they were playing the instrumental of Titanic. And I was like, this is fucked up. This is fucked up.
That's wild.
I won't go to a chiropractor because I feel like when they tell you to relax or breathe, they're going to crack it. No, I hate that sound. And I'm going to tense up and then I'm just going to die.
That's my irrational fear.
So you're not missing a thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fasting.
Venom in the Viper Room.
Bronwyn. Newbie. But I love her. What about you guys?
moment.
Kind of like Simple Life where they go to a town in the middle of nowhere.
No, I think she's a little further north than Malibu. I think she's up by Oxnard. Yeah. But yeah, she brought her son and shared... Oliver. Yeah, Oliver's backstory. I don't know if you remember Oliver from... Oh, I remember, yeah.
Raquel. Raquel.
Which is crazy because Bozeman had more to say and she's just met these people and she's defending Doreen being like, and even then. Girl code.
It's so inappropriate. And it's also because Kyle's not communicating with Dorit. So I think it's weird to be like, he's a better friend to me when it's like the only reason why you know PK is through Dorit.
But you're not sending just like a meme and then somebody sends a meme back as a response. You're going to talk about the meme. You're going to laugh about the meme. Why are you sending the meme? Why do you think it's funny to send to me?
Oh, Kyle would be me. Pissed. Yep. So pissed. So she's 100% breaking girl code in my opinion and playing dumb about it.
And then Kyle kind of like lost her shit on Dorit, which felt... When she was like, can you not yell at me so your veins are popping out of your forehead? I was like, damn.
The way that she like spun what Dorit was saying to you, I didn't like that where it was just like, okay, fine, we'll never be friends. And like, that's not what Dorit's saying. She's like, how can I trust you if your actions, you're saying one thing and your actions are showing another thing. And she's like, yeah, no, it's fine. We'll never be friends. And it's like, that's not what she said.
And she flipped it on its head and then was just like, no, we're not friends. We're not friends. It's like, why are you offering or extending an olive branch or extending friendship if you're also so quickly when it's not received the way you want it to be? They'd be like, all right, well, fuck it all. Don't ever call me again. And it was like, it's a granderous reaction.
But who isn't? A little. Yeah.
They were also at the Viper Room, so I'm sure there was loud music playing in the background, so I will give them credit. For sure.
Have y'all been to the Viper Room? Yes.
Yes. No. But I thought it was funny. I've only been one time and it was a Halloween not by choice.
While Johnny Depp owned it.
He doesn't own it anymore, but he owned it for at least, I think, a decade.
Yeah. And I like that she's not swayed by anything. She stands firm on what she believes, and she's like, I'll say it to your face, I'll say it behind your back, but these women will just say anything to say anything.
And I'm like, that's how you know she's a real businesswoman. She's like, I pick and choose my battles, and none of this is worth it.
Yes. Is that what you said?
That was really funny. Well, the real Slim Sutton? The real Slim Sutton, please stand up.
Well, Sutton kind of did predict that in the sense of what she's been saying, even with Kyle, too. But on the boat, she was like, I know that you guys want to co-parent and you think that things are going to be easy, but there will be a day where the other shoe drops. And it sounds like it did in therapy with PK.
PK, he posted Boy George for Christmas. Okay.
And Dorit spent the holidays with her kids on vacation. On vacation.
And they don't even have like baby kids. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like most of them are out of the house. She's got one kid that still lives in the home.
I was thinking that, too.
And they were roommates. One Irish coffee too many.
I don't think they stay in the same room.
house i think that like they kind of take turns in the house so that it doesn't disrupt the kids like their routine waking up at home it's not going back and forth to where teddy's staying i think they take turns parenting in the house and then she goes to kyle's and he has like a hotel or another house okay well he's making it work for the kids we love that yeah does that wrap it up
Do you? And I really didn't think I was going to. I've avoided watching this show because obviously I had Vanderpump Rules and I was like, I don't need another Vanderpump Rules taking me back circa 10 years. Now that I have no Vanderpump Rules and nothing to look forward to, the way that this kind of slid in the first episode and I was like, wait, this is so messy. Young people are amazing.
And then I started the first season and I binged through the entire first season. I'm on the second season. It's... It's so good. Okay.
And listen, I love Luann. I feel like Luann gets what Luann wants. I need everyone to.
Yeah, but you didn't go to a bar together. You ran into a bar and you rescinded an invitation. I'm saying they didn't watch what happens live and then they were like, let's go out and we're hanging out.
Just because it was something that you would do does not mean that's what everyone else would do. You're not Joe. You're not Joe. And Joe Bradley gets around.
He says he likes older women, even though he's now dating his co-worker. Huge MILF guy. Huge MILF guy.
So what's weird is that like from watching the first season, he was debating whether or not he was going to go to law school or if he was going to continue a career in restaurants underneath Leva. And her whole thing was, I want to ring. I don't want to work anymore. I want to have kids and I want to be a housewife. You go to law school.
I don't know what's happening in the second season to where now that we've gotten to this full disconnect because she drinks a lot and she's wild and now she's sober in this season. So that's why I'm like something happened in season two that clearly I am missing because Will's not as awful in the first season as he is this season.
But also to comment on your girlfriend's body to other people being like you don't like it.
It's a weird thing for that to be the main focus of your storyline this season.
Oh, yeah, I'm binging.
I'll be back in 15 minutes. Be like, that's not how these things work.
All he cared about was a sign and then didn't bring tape. Like, I would murder for less.
Well, Leva.
Also, one thing I want to say is I do apologize for hyping up Southern Charm. I don't know what the hell is going on this season, but it has been such a- It is. It's up there with like Vanderpump Rules, Southern Charm, and Summer House are like my three favorite go-tos outside of like Housewives. And it's like this season has been underwhelming.
JT. We're spending way too much time on JT and Miss Pat. They are not main character energies. I do not understand what is happening. And if I have to watch Craig pick up his backyard one more time, I will lose it. It used to be spicy. It used to be fun.
Do you want to start that over? Yeah. What are you saying? You started like five sentences and didn't finish one of them.
And they're trying to, like, tell us backstory of things that have happened off camera, like, in the past. But I'm like, it's not feeding to the storyline right now. Like, I don't care that they sexted. I don't care that she slept, like, one girl slept with Shep and kicked him out.
Like, if it's not going to relate to how their storylines are playing in or she's not going after Shep in his relationship, then, like, why are we talking about this?
I think they're just too mature at this point.
Yeah.
Craig Mead's an HGTV show. I'd watch that.
Truth. Truth. W-E-R-K. Because I'd rather watch people let loose on a weekend than just like, oh, well, this is me in my garden. Okay.
Is he having a conversation with someone? It's unclear.
anybody gets to the bottom of this and like people have their opinions but it's really just gonna be like i don't know we need to be patient and like really watch how this plays out yeah i'm gonna need something more than like a voice note that's already like what's being said in the voice note was already released in the lawsuit or the complaint that i'm like this is not like new evidence you're just trying to grasp at straws to like pull at heartstrings but i'm like that's not a conversation that's being had it's a voice note that you recorded a lot of
It's also very close to home. Like I was staring outside my hotel window and I could see the mountains over Burbank catching on fire and it's just kind of.
My power was out since 8 a.m. yesterday. So after work, when I got home around like 5 or 6 and realizing we still have no power and I need Wi-Fi and food and whatnot. So we packed up our car, our dog, and we are now staying in a hotel.
Yeah.
Is that the biggest mall in the world or no? No, it's small in America.
Isn't it really big?
Really? Is it? I've never been.
We're so excited to have you all.
I feel good.
What did y'all see?
Angela something, maybe? I don't know. Anyways, but she remembered the doctor. But at the time, yeah.
Oh, Vito's Pizza? Yes. What's your favorite food?
Just in general.
You have a sweet tooth? Abby, what's your favorite food?
That seems like not much.
You travel a lot. Yes. Wow. Have you been to Italy before?
I thought you guys were going to go there. Wasn't that on the plan?
going to outer space I don't think outer space is my thing what do you think of Katy Perry going to outer space did she float I actually don't know if they floated I don't know if she did she was only up there for 11 minutes it was very quick I think they got the zero gravity okay
You could do that.
I did it once. Oh, yeah. Thank you. You could do that. You should do that.
Do you feel like people look at you now and think, oh my gosh, she's a mermaid?
22 years. Wow.
That's my original song. That's beautiful. It's an original.
That's a very good question. I don't know.
David, can you think of anything?
Do you get nervous to sing in front of all those people? No, not really. You don't? Wow.
Wow.
Wow, that's a really big deal.
Our daughter has blue eyes. We love them. Yeah.
You'd have to stick out your tongue. You'd have to stick out your tongue. Yes.
We got to get you to the zoo immediately.
That's a lot of animals.
Y'all are silly. Y'all have good jokes.
The cat?
Thank you so much for the interview.
Thank you guys so much for coming. Thank you. We hope to see you soon.
That's so beautiful.
A week after y'all. We're 427. Nice. Very nice. We could do a joint anniversary party next year.
I'm a fan of your work.
Good. There you go.
But because Heather's attorney fees are $31,550, Monica is now responsible for covering that as well. Has Monica spoken about it?
I did.
Woke up and chose violence. She chose violence with that.
Yeah.
I mean, there is the theory that you're not ugly, you're just poor. Yeah. Yeah.
You can find the best surgeon ever and they can give you- You can do M-sculpt instead of going to the gym five times a week.
Exactly. You have access to things that are shortcuts that other people don't.
Get a facelift.
You have to see it. It's the best movie ever.
You have a way with words, Mary.
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Yeah.
I feel like Charles' season would be really cute but very tame where I feel like Pascal would be like, let's jump off a building. The drama. He's fun.
Yeah.
And I feel like we kind of like we know like Pascal might be a little messy. Background. Yeah. And like we know where he comes from.
And Charles didn't make it that far. So it's like we didn't get to meet his family and all. I don't know. I just feel like there's kind of a little bit of like.
Yeah, like move romantically.
And she's also saying that she's not going to date another 23 year old. She later confessed her perfect guy would be a man who is 44, successful and has two kids going off to college. Vasectomy.
I was like, which one's Dan? Which one's Dan?
We're done with Mark. We don't have Jonathan. But I'm done with Mark being like, Mark's taken. So who else was in the running?
Jordan.
Who?
Absolutely not.
Yeah. I'm a city person.
Not a Manhattanite.
It revolutionized the dating world where I was like okay how many times?
So it's like it's not a bit. I think he genuinely feels that way. And it's just kind of frustrating watching like somebody trying to express something that's really important to her and then him be like, but let me get a picture of this chicken.
No, like that's my biggest pet peeve too. Like sometimes like I'll be like talking about something or Connor will ask me a question and I start answering it and then he'll like be like, or she'll start talking to the dog or something. And it's like, are you joking? Like, why am I wasting my breath? So it makes me, that's one of my biggest pet peeves.
Like don't ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer to it.
Mm-hmm.
Mel called Abe something this episode and it was so cute, like abelicious or something like she's got like a cute little pet.
Yeah. Mr. Calling as a lesbian wedding planner.
Did you also watch What Happens Live for Halloween that Povit dressed up as Dory?
He's a former financier and businessman.
Investment banker, project leader, management consultant.
I'm still kind of interested as to why we casted Rebecca, though, because she really doesn't give anything like no disrespect to her. But she doesn't really add to any episodes and has like maybe like a one line moment or like one scene.
I mean, if he did to me what Zach did, then yeah, I'd be like, I respect it. Thank you for loving me and showing me support and fuck that guy.
Isn't
Mm hmm.
Wait, so your parents are both, like, artistically gifted.
But they both didn't... Were never, like, actors or singers or... Well, my dad...
Oh my God.
It's either there or it's not.
Like Netflix or Peacock.
Okay, I will Venmo you right now.
Yeah.
Because people suck.
A lot of people were saying that there was crossover because by the time that she broke up with Ryan or ended their marriage and whatnot, but at the same time... Also, remember the laws about if you're legally married, you can't divorce within a period.
Was there an extras table? No.
That's awful.
That we have a hard-hitting question that America wants to know. Have you retired the overalls? And it was like, out of that entire fucking season, you think that's the question that we're dying to hear?
He also was on Traders UK and won it. So it's like he went from having this really great experience on reality TV over there to coming over here.
So he was on Traders after?
I feel like you'd be really good at like hot takes. Like just being like, hey, here's a hot take.
Or you could be the new Joan Rivers.
Who's the... Oh, yeah, I forgot what the Disney place is. Lion King. Who's the... Simba? Simba. Mufasa. Scar? Scar.
No, Snow White did. No, she slept.
Tell me how that works. Tell me how that works.
Snow White is a dom. She's giving dom. Jasmine takes no shit. Are you submissive? No.
Not you asking now.
I get that mixed up, too. How dare you?
Yeah, they are. They take, like, the most popular people from Broadway and they put them on Float. Sure, but I'm just saying.
I will say, I think she did a kind of good job. She gave herself a nice little curtain bang. She didn't go too close to the scalp.
He also said, for that, I apologize, which means he's not apologizing for what he did. He's apologizing for her being upset with what he did.
atrocious i'm sure people love to troll millie bobby brown too yeah ever since she was little like she was a kid like even like just from my perspective as a queer person like people love to throw around like oh millie bobby brown is homophobic she hit me with her car and it's like she did none of that she did none of that people just love to like it just became a yeah just like became a joke who knows out of just the internet loves to troll her and that's what's unfortunate for her it was just like someone was like joking and lying one time and then like on
It's the humor.
I got to find her number. She's busy responding to all the comments. She's really supportive to her fan base. I love it.
Did you comment? I did. That's a congratulations.
He said, on and off since I was 23 and I'm 45.
Well, and they're leading us to think that the mom is the one that might have been killed, right? Is one of the people that might have been.
But it's definitely one of the white guys that had the gun. Yeah. Like it has to be one of the white guys.
Oh.
I do think we need to do spoiler warnings.
Oh, no, it's definitely one of them. The creepy one going to Bangkok or the one that has a scam that made him $10 million.
It's too predictable. It is, but they're both hiding too much.
Okay, so then it's either the bodyguard or the manager of the hotel.
We finally got to see the scene of Kathy walking on the runway.
Yeah. I would say season nine or 10. I mean, I think Dorit's like made her bed and now she's sleeping in it.
She's also very long winded. And I think that's what Garcelle and Sutton always return to is like every time they try to have a conversation, she dances around the point of it and never actually has the conversation. So that's where she says, like, let the mouse go. That makes sense.
1,000%.
I mean, I think everybody gossips.
I don't know them. I wasn't making a sexuality thing. I was just like, guys like to gossip too as much as women do.
I love it. It's all the scenes of Beverly Hills Housewives that I would watch. So I was like, I get a full episode.
In college, they give it to everybody just in case.
Well, I don't think it's a bad thing, but the universities are like, if you need it or if you want to have it, they provide it.
Because you're going to parties. Even if you or your friends are not doing it, if you see someone else. I definitely won't be the parent giving my kid condoms at 13. Well, yeah.
Don't do it.
I think it's just like teaching someone CPR in case you're ever in the situation. A lot of people have Narcan in case you're ever in the situation.
I will say a lot of people are talking about the purse conversation where her chain got caught in the table.
Yeah.
Okay.
This coming.
Thief of Joy.
Don't let them leave there. Exactly.
Well, that's the thing. If it's not your best friend, it's the person he's dropping your conversation right next to you. But you don't know them. You don't know them. That's completely different.
But they might be in kindergarten together and now they're going to fight over having the same name.
When was it?
I was like, the season was so slow that I'm like, I think the reunions were so good that by the end of the second reunion, I was like, I actually don't want any of the cast members to be replaced. And I'm kind of curious to see what happens next.
Is Scientology in the room with us?
I can give you a book recommendation and you should read it for yourself and see what conclusions you come to.
She does. And I do have some questions about how she feels about the cast after the fact.
Well, and it was also announced that she's not coming back or that she was fired from this cast of Roni.
I think it's a mixture of things. I think it's also the fact that she wasn't as forthcoming or open about the Scientology, but also because there was the clip where she said, She was using this as a platform to like promote her business. So I'm like, maybe she wasn't being as forthcoming and authentic even in downtime moments.
And piggybacking off of what you just said, I'm also kind of like, I feel like there's so many other conversations that could have been had with her about her family, about her. I know nothing about her relationship, her kids, how she grew her business. So I'm like, there's a lot that could have been shared that also wasn't and nobody wanted to explore outside of. Right.
I feel like it's in Voldemort.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I loved her this reunion, though. I was like, I haven't heard her speak up and like kind of combat with other people, be combative with other people the way that she was this way, where she was like even with Brynn or anybody. She was like, no, this is inherently wrong. So it was like it was nice to hear her speak up and actually have an opinion on things.
And it says that she presented to Cate Blanchett at the Golden Globes. That's... A famously non-classy event.
I mean, the only one I'm seeing right now is Cate Winslet at the BAFTAs 2007. But they're saying that's not the truth.
My whole thing is that I'm like, all you could have said was, it was at an award show at some point, or a very fancy ceremony, but you literally gave it's a British elegant award ceremony.
It's Google-able.
I was like, here is minimum 10,000 just for like the first offense.
Jim, I did it again. Can you come get me? I mean, to be singing on the way to jail, like you're not worried about anything.
Sarah Michelle Gellar or Jennifer Love Hewitt?
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What are your guys' favorite reboots? Do you have one? I guess The Hills. The only one that watched The New Beginning.
No, I tried to watch it and I was like... It's horrible. Let me preserve what I love.
Yes.
Craig went on Watch What Happens Live back in December, and it was that whole thing where they played the montage in Southern Charm and on Watch What Happens Live about how he's notorious for lying in the past, to which he responds, like, I never lie.
Come to find out, Paige releasing this, saying that the whole time he was talking about the plans him and Paige had for Christmas, like, knowing that they were broken up. So it kind of, like, points out the fact that it's like, no, you were actually in the act of lying during this Watch What Happens Live while being called the liar and saying you never lie.
It kind of sounds like no matter what, someone was going to be unhappy. Because at the end of the day, now she's going on clarifying that she agreed with Craig to not talk about it. She saw pictures of him out on a New Year's trip and was like, well, if we're going to be presenting single, I'm going to announce it.
the breakup like they you know they do keep well I think friends just want to be involved friends want to make headlines friends want to and people ask friends because they know like yes yeah I also get it because I feel like it's relatable like I've gone through like a breakup and then like when I started dating or something like I didn't post about it or anything like that because it was just like out of respect for the past relationship I was trying not to but I'm also kind of like it's a little delusional I guess in the sense of being two people that are public figures on shows that are airing right now that it's like and people were speculating about the breakup
I don't know. I think the whole thing was she should have just been, I'll break up, just rip the bandaid off.
I feel like it could be weirder for them, personally.
You have to watch your relationship disintegrate, I guess.
Yeah. And I wish him the best.
They used half the cast of Beverly Hills.
So maybe it'll be March again. Yeah, the teaser for the season was released January 17th. The first look was released on February 27th, and the premiere date was announced March 19th. So three months? Three months?
Yeah, I'm going to guess May.
And I also saw a photo that Kristen posted yesterday, and she just looks great, and I just love her. I would love to give a shout out to Kristen.
You want somebody to smash a wine glass and hold it up and say, never talk about my husband like that again.
Wants her to like be able to afford the house on her own. Like the whole thing. Like and it's like Oh, the whole 10 years in California thing. I just learned about this this year. So I thought it was interesting. It ended up on Beverly Hills.
But it's like in California, when you make it past 10 years in a marriage, it doesn't matter if you had one of the things you signed, like prenups, all that stuff. Everything is 50-50 communal property if you decide to split. PK divorcing her at like nine and a half years. Like it's just it's giving icky. It's giving like I want to get out before I have to be taken care of for the rest of my life.
Like it sounds like he's trying to like expedite the process as much as possible to be like, I want you to prepare yourself that I will not be taking care of you or the family. Whatever is mine is mine. And we'll figure this out legally.
Amen. You were right.
I got a little chills with that, too, because it is true. Sometimes you want people to be so direct and honest, and Erica actually presented it being like, listen, I'm just going to give you the hard, cold facts.
It does not appear that he wants that.
I'm just saying, I feel like if it's an either or, I feel like there's a better chance that Kyle and Mauricio could reconcile than PK and Dorit at this point.
He answers Kyle's texts. He goes, they go on vacation and sleep in the same house. Like, PK's over here, like, not answering a phone call, not caring about where his kids are. Like, PK can go fuck himself.
The way that she tried to be like, um, yeah, no, baby, they're diamonds. Like, she's like trying to be like, do I say, yeah.
Confusing diamonds for puka shells. But also, like, how large were they? Yeah, truly.
We have. You laid in her bed. What?
Did you think Erica had a right to be upset about not being invited to Augusta?
I was more so confused about her calling Kyle to invite her for something so personal where the week before she comes to dinner, it was like, okay, so why am I here?
And then it was like, I want you to come to this very personal interaction with my mom.
Period on her mom.
Her mom also has free will. So her mom didn't have to be a part of the show. Her mom is also what, like 85? Yeah.
Those houses. The little back house was gorgeous. There's like multiple houses. Did you ever see Righteous Gemstones? Yes. That whole like how all of the family lives in like houses all on the same property. Like that's what that reminded me of. And it was really cute.
Was it after taxes or before taxes? $350,000 a month.
I feel like Boze is getting the most camera time and I'm here for it. So I'm just like, whatever comes out of her mouth, I'll listen. Also, Erica's won me back over.
Just misleading headlines in general. But the quote saying like she sucks. Like that's not a slam.
No, it wasn't me. I'm a gamer.
I did come from The Bachelor.
Yeah, you could wear skinny jeans.
I love, I doubt it. No one's given more roses or been handed more roses than you on The Bachelor.
Oh, like statistics. Bachelor statistics.
Bachelor stats.
How many times did you say, are you here for the right reasons?
None?
How many times did you reference your journey?
How many times did you say, my wife is in this room?
But she's in the room with us now.
Indeed.
Yeah. How do you feel about it? Because you're kind of in the middle of it because it is your boyfriend, but you're also friendly with TJ and you guys got closer over the summer. So I'm like, how does that affect you? Or it's like this is your relationship, but also your friendship.
And I also just have to say, after watching the first two seasons, it's really nice to see you in a healthy relationship. And I think it's bringing out the best in you and in Joe, because Joe's very lovable, seeing him wanting to commit to you and wanting to get married and saying all these things where you're like, Joey Bottles is saying, like, you know, but you know what I mean?
Like, it's just kind of it's really nice. So I'm happy for you.
Or like, I'm going to deal with Emmy and not have them be able to say, I heard you say this.
It should have been something so small, but it's like even watching her kind of defend Will where it's like Will sat there, not only didn't comfort you after the fact, but then spent time talking shit about you to your co-workers who are not his co-workers. I don't know. I just feel like it's unforgivable in my opinion. I would be really embarrassed. Right? Yeah.
Are you filming the reunion in South Carolina or are you filming in New York?
Okay.
I felt that way about Lisa Renna too on Beverly Hills Housewives with Denise Richards.
Right.
I feel like Joe handled it well, though, considering the sit down and everything. And, you know, at least admitting to the fact that it's like that if that was your perception, I'm sorry for that. But like, obviously, it did not mean anything to me.
But I do think that I'm sure it's tough, especially for TJ being out in Charleston and as many people that he was saying that his dating life, it's hard to date. for him out in Charleston. So I'm like, I also can understand wanting something to be true, but that not even though it's not and kind of embellishing it and hoping that it could be.
But I'm just like, yeah, it's your fantasy versus the reality of what happened. And if the person is telling you that It meant nothing to him. Then you just have to kind of accept that.
I mean, apparently not. So I don't know. It's a little tough just because it's, like I said, it's two different people's perspectives. And then you also have somebody wanting something to happen where somebody else is like, that meant nothing.
They're besties. She was spending the night at his house on episode two. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Envy?
That also takes far too long to say.
Did it not feel weird, too, when you're sitting there and she comes out, introduced, they asked her five questions, and then they were like, all right, well, that's our time with Rebecca. And I was like...
Well, they usually like softball questions, do an introduction. But it was literally like, here she is. Scientology, Scientology. Aaron hates you. Psy hates you.
does anyone in here disagree it's like no one's gonna be like i do she definitely was set up in that yeah yeah i will say i'm for a slow season as i said earlier i've the reunions kind of gave me a lot a lot to work with i'm a fan of zen uba but i don't know oh you don't know about uba no i love uba okay i'm obsessed with uba like i think she's the best but i just
I felt like mentally she couldn't disconnect the two from each other because she felt like all of these women hate her. So it's like that we're not denying that your story is true. It's just the other parts that go along with it, where it's like you're even still saying I sucked a dick for this job. And it's like, that's not what Uba said, but like you were convinced that that's what she said.
So it's like almost like the repetitive nature of repeating the same things. But it is very difficult to have a conversation trying to be like, Clarifying what's a lie and what's the truth when it's also surrounded around such a sensitive topic. Yeah.
Like, for lack of a better word, messiness?
And I think it was a very powerful moment because you have them talking about what happened and Uba pretty much saying, I want nothing to do with you, whatever. But then it's like even any reference coming back to the experience that happened with Brynn, like Uba gets up and hugs her and wants her to say sorry and just like wants her to know that she's supported.
So it's kind of like if Uba can move on from what's happening, where that's something that directly affected her, then it's like, yes, all the other women, it's like lay off a little bit because it's just like Brynn's going through a lot. She might not handle herself well, but she also did say that she does want to learn how to be a better friend and to be more direct.
So it's like all she can do is just move forward with it. But she's somebody who's had a very troubled childhood and a very troubled experience growing up. So it's like to add insult to injury, it doesn't make any sense.
Or is it because Chris Stapleton didn't have a banjo in his album?
uber and real housewives or jamaica yeah you know they're like no i actually heard the beaches were dirty and like dead pigeons were everywhere it definitely has an effect no you're so right too because i'm like there's a lot of trips that even i've planned based off of seeing it come up on real housewives it's like oh my god what is this tropical island that they're on i mean we do the same with restaurants like when we were watching the valley we were like oh my god there's a rush there's a new rush and we haven't tried that and if they were like oh my
Chris Stapleton has a banjo out of the womb.
F1 Trillion. F1 Trillion.
Aww.
That's so crunk. Not very sabotaging. Yeah, please don't. Yeah, say crunk.
Monday is the first day of the week. It's not. I think you guys are dominated by the work week and not life.
Sunday.
Boom. Also, open up your calendar app.
maybe I'm not like all the other girls maybe you just like all the other girls I love Monday she's so interesting my girlfriend 4am is the best time to wake up no the girl that I'm refusing to date is so cool but yeah don't worry she thinks Monday is the coolest day of the week what day of the week do you think I'm different I think 4am is the best time to get up because you get so many things done before you start your day exactly I like to work out at 4am well we have an amazing episode what
I'm also so confused because I feel like they're making weird editing choices because Vanita from Southern Charm also posted a video earlier this week. And it was from the past episode of them being out at a bar and like having fun and drinking and all the stuff. And it's like, we don't get to see any of that. This season has been so boring.
And then to come to find out that they filmed all of these events and things that they were actually working with together. It's like, why did we see none of that besides you guys sitting two by two talking about other cast members?
Bravo needs to bring back their unseen footage episodes they used to do it every single season of Housewives where like the last two episodes were after reunion and it was just like every single footage you haven't seen just there to watch yeah Vanderpump they did that on Vanderpump too and it was just like the most chaotic scenes that didn't make the episode but even then the episodes were chaotic and good it's like you're cutting out all of the meat and bones and all of the good stuff and then you're handing us a carcass being like how do you feel about this and it's like it's boring no taste no flavor no seasoning no meat
right I was like the only other person I feel like that was like vulnerable or gave us something outside of dynamics in this friendship group was Raquel who actually like opened up about like her relationship with her parents and all that stuff and I was like why does nobody else get like Jessel kind of did and Jessel did too for sure but I'm like yeah so it's like but with these people that have so much power and Raquel is just as powerful as a Jenna Lyons for example that I'm like why are we why are we not having like Rebecca showing her at events showing her like interacting with other people besides just people talking about her
Yeah, the reporters need to ask him, when can I see you again?
A collaboration? What?
I think he was very open. He was awesome.
Right?
And he looks great.
Certified hot. I was waiting for the married woman to say it.
Did you not?
Okay. He was so kind and so sweet. I think we all got a little like, okay, hi, girl.
You said, what are those? Still?
We're so done with that place. I agree, for the record.
Okay, I have a belief that If your airplane flight is less than five hours, there's only three reasons you're using the bathroom on the plane. And these are the reasons. One, to take a nude. Two, you have annoying fans. Three, you have really bad ideas. There's no other reason.
You can go pee before the flight. I'm like, what is the reason? I agree.
No.
Go before the flight, after the flight. Oh, for sure.
All I have to say is, if you're getting up during a flight and it's less than five hours, I'm giving you side eye. I'm like, you're going in there to do something.
People are doing that.
Wait, speaking of planes, did you see the Delta Airline flight where the girl was singing Moana? No.
She was not little.
She was grown.
Gorgeous.
Remember?
He was a quarter. Let me double check this.
Definitely quarterback. The internet says he was a quarterback for the Oakland Raiders. I don't think he has the agility.
The Oakland Raiders from 2003 to 2005.
I feel like she's just like a Lisa Renna character. Like you need the person that's making other people's business themselves. And yes, they're crossing the line. That's disrespectful, Lisa Renna. Well, that is what she did on TV.
Right.
I mean, let's normalize it.
I didn't realize she'd be so transparent about, like, parents' struggles. And I'm rooting for her.
Well, this show is the new Vanderpump and Charlie is potentially the Jax.
Well, part of me thinks that Bravo thinks it's the next Vanderpump because they did a cast photo with like a web and they did that for the first season of Vanderpump Rules. So that's where I'm like, I think they know that this has the potential.
Narnia. Narnia. Narnia. Narnia. Narnia. Narnia. Narnia.
We found something.
I'm excited. Yeah, they have, what, six couples? We got Nick and Sandy, Mariah and Kayla, Vanessa and Dave, Chanel, Micah, Scotty and Ariana.
The thoughtfulness.
That was a little aggressive. Balls deep, yikes.
Dorit being able to say like left leaving Kyle speechless in the like you thinking that I was acting this way to keep my job when you are close enough with executive producers to know that I was asked back and you still like chose to have that view and Kyle was like well no Kyle said I said what I said she was like I said what I said but she was kind of left a little speechless of like you took it that way she was like this I took it as literally left speechless like literally did not say anything until
I mean, her saying that he is not a good father, knowing her children will see that is a choice.
I think she asked for it for free and was like, hey, I'd love to wear this to the reunion if you'd like to gift it to me. And they were like, sorry, no, like not possible. And then she paid full price for it. And she was like, well, then I'm not going to like shout you out because that's worth a lot of money. And I'm not doing that. I kind of get it. It's like, yeah.
Because it's like they weren't sitting down. Obviously, they were recording, but it wasn't like an interview question for Erica. It was just Andy being like, oh my God, who is that? I love what you're wearing. And she was like, yeah, some designer.
I was like, we did something happen. That seems like one of Erica's just like little things that she throws out. And then it's like the other person's like, oh, my God.
Doesn't like the response.
Especially someone who like has her own career and is like doing things for herself to be like.
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You know, this is the past. It's just like, where is the king and queen? I don't know.
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You kind of had like an awkward stage with that.
Anyone remember the movie Spirit with that horse?
With the horses?
Horse movies are so sad. First of all, Nick was like, I've never heard of that movie. Second of all, I can't find it anywhere.
Thank you.
It's DreamWorks, I think, right?
Do you really want to revisit that and cry? No, I think Nick's dad showed me a clip of it. I'm like, that's not it. That looks way too animated.
Thank you.
What do you and your wife like to do for fun?
Have you found a favorite kind of hole-in-the-wall place or place that you and your wife have been like, we have to go back? Like, this is a gem.
Is it?
And y'all tell me to reel it in.
And like, and then all of a sudden you have like 17 wives and they're all getting branded.
Okay. I'm in.
Is there anyone from, like, history that you would be interested in doing, like, a biopic on or someone that, like, you feel like you could channel really well?
That is so true. I remember being like, how did they get that water in there? And how was it staying? And then the sharks, how are they? Yeah. Did they lead them with treats?
Because yesterday there were no sharks.
So you're fluent in Italian. Is your wife also? She's not.
Yes, of course.
Are you teaching her or is she like, don't try?
Yeah, it depends on if you have to explain the rules to me. I don't want to play the game. You know, there's nothing worse than being like, sure, let's play Monopoly. How do you play? And then someone's like, all right. So if you have, it's like, yeah, I can't do it.
Yeah. You got Kyle who, to our knowledge, has not had any... Crime-free. Yeah, Kyle's crime-free.
The joke that's like women fall asleep by hearing like, and her head was cut off. Her legs were cut off.
I mean, who would ever be like, yeah, let me take this dog to, like, a kill. You know, like, who would ever think that your friend would do that? Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Does this make you want to watch reality TV? Are you like, you know, I think this guy wants some bad people. No, it sounds terrifying.
Isn't that movie really old? Yeah. So they knew all along that Tom Girardi was a scumbag?
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Okay, you've been saying it with an accent all along, and now you're like, Giacomo.
His name, he's got a good name. He was like, it's the only one I have. Good old Jack. His co-star, Vanessa Morgan, was also in Riverdale. I auditioned for that show.
For Veronica, yeah.
Oh, really? Yeah.
there's nothing else to say i'm here so you do look like a veronica yeah thank you i do see it i had a great audition yeah hey david rapaport good enough i see you i still made it on camera okay i still made it on camera oh just a different camera you know you are good everybody else can't hold but look where you are yeah yeah
It was more so just like you were so... We all were so harsh on him when it first came out. And then whenever he's sitting in front of you, it was just very like, hee-hee, ha-ha, you're my bestie, we're all good. We are all good.
It is an alliteration. It is.
And my DMs are open. No, I want you to say that five times fast.
We are looking for a third, Sydney.
Listen, this is what I've been saying all along. I felt like that's why she was at the sister's wedding is when they were filming that movie together. I'm sure his family was there a lot of the time. She got close with his sister. She got married. She's like, Sydney, you have to come. Please come to my wedding.
It doesn't help that Glenn's girlfriend at the time, they did break up and there was that drama.
Sure. Personally, but like to the audience, it seems very you could have been like, listen, man, like still don't agree with your choice of words and the things that I didn't agree.
Yeah.
So do you have any tea on Glenn and Sid?
100%. Okay.
I do I remember her like post on Instagram that was like like finally free or something yeah she's like walking by herself or something she moved she like started a new life and like she looks fabulous it was very like fuck you Glenn Powell yeah mm-hmm
Do y'all remember Jessica Chastain, one of my favorite actors of all time? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oscar Isaacs? Yes. Them on the red carpet.
That is a moment, that's my Roman Empire. I think of that red carpet moment constantly. I'm so glad you brought that back into my memory.
Well, I also did not know he was married. I loved the two of them in, what's the name of that show that they're in? It was Scenes from a Marriage. It was a remake of a movie. And I just remember watching, it was like a video of them on the red carpet and the way that he like kissed her arm. It was just so romantic.
Yeah.
They're very talented.
They one-upped the, like, whisper and laugh in the ear on the red carpet. You know how a lot of couples like to do that? And you're like, what are they saying? Because whatever it was, it was so funny. Because now, like, she's laughing. Usually it's smile, laugh, smile. I think you have to look over here.
Does she lean in? Sydney? Oh, to the, like, romanticness. The attention?
I respect it. She's definitely blowing up and in the peak height of her career right now. And I get like, listen, planning a wedding is a lot. And I understand her being like, I don't have the fucking time for this right now. But it is sad that like she had to end a relationship over it.
I know he was a producer on anyone but you. He was. Yes. So that's why I think a lot of people were.
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Because they have nothing else to really, you know. You get that in cold, yeah. That's why Nick's mom had 11 children. Wow. Yeah. It was so cold.
Can your dad give your mom a break? He likes to refer to himself as Thumper, which is hard for me to personally hear. That's a weird thing.
I personally don't know if I could push out 11 through my vagina. Why? Is there something special about yours? Well, after the one, it was just, you know, it's like 11. It's really hard to think about doing that 11 times. I think it gets easier.
because I wanted to hear what he was going to say about my girl, Shan. And he was polite.
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It's just the next show like coming up after White Lotus. I feel like Patrick Schwarzenegger's career is about to skyrocket after this. Like, I feel like he's going to be he's going to be the new Brandon Sklenar or Glenn Powell, who's in every fucking show and every movie. And you're like, oh, my God, I can't get enough of this guy. Maybe he's taken off.
We've all met Saxon. Yeah.
I've never met him, so I don't know what his real personality would be like.
I watch White Lotus. It's also hard when you have to, like, explain. I'm in the other room. I'm also promoting. So we host a podcast. It's called Viaphiles. And it's like, I know everyone hosts a podcast these days, but it's actually kind of big. A lot of people do. Okay.
You're breathing too close to my face.
Sometimes I think about like that always be like casting by and it'll say their name like in the credits. I'm always like, what if I just DM them? I was like, hey, do you would you want me for anything by my Instagram pics?
Yeah.
It is hard to get a Southern accent right.
You see that Duke is pissed off that they're portraying Duke like that.
Everyone was like, this is so Duke. Duke would have a pill problem.
Duke would not be paying their taxes.
Can you say it without an accent? Do you feel like?
Have you played anywhere in, like, Alabama? Yeah. You have? Yeah.
Every state?
now we have two babies he cooks everything yeah that's so nice wow so does Nick he cooks everything you love cooking?
He is so picky in particular in how he likes his food prepared and cooked.
No crust. Yeah.
Like what?
The first time he came to visit me, I was living in Savannah, Georgia, and I was like. Played there. I was actually just there.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, how fun. So he was coming to visit me and I was like talking to my mom like I think he has like kind of a late flight. Like I should just like have a meal prepared for him. A ribbon in my hair. Yes. With a ribbon in my hair. And I was like, I think I'm going to cook him like chicken, sweet potato and Brussels sprouts.
Him. Him. Ham. For my king. Ham for my king. Chicken, sweet potato, and Brussels sprouts. And my mom was like, oh, you should do like goat cheese and balsamic vinaigrette on the Brussels sprouts. He'll be like so impressed. Because it's the 90s. You should totally make that. And I was like, ooh, okay. He'll think I'm such a like cook, chef. And I did. I had it all prepared.
He came home from – we came home from the airport and he looked at it and – I ate it. He had like one Brussels sprout. That's right. You did. The smallest amount of sweet potato. He's literally choking it down. I'm like, are you OK? He's like, I actually hate sweet potatoes and I hate Brussels sprouts with all the shit in it. I just like plain. You said hate? Hate.
And I literally was like, I will never do this again. Perfect.
Hate. You said hate.
And it's about six things. So they're on rotate. Well, since I've been criticized with everything. You have one child? Yes. Okay. I cook for her. Everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every, she is very particular. All the macaroni and cheese, all the cheese quesadillas, all of it.
Oh, yeah. I'm definitely Thai. Yeah, constantly.
What's that place, Sierra? Chain Mai Thai. Chain Mai Thai.
No.
Nobody wants to see that baby.
So we went to the mall recently. Why? Well, you know, we were- To look around.
It was like we'd been in the house for a long time and it was like, let's just get everyone out of the house.
It is there. But River really wanted to go on the escalator. It was like huge addiction to the escalator. And so many fits tantrums were occurring when we were not allowing her. And Nick was like, we just got we have to go home. We just have to get out of here. And I'm like, I don't think she'll ever learn how to be in public.
Yeah, Nick was pissed. He was like, we have to get the fuck out of here.
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I thought I had cracked the case and then I'm scrolling on TikTok and it's like one after the other and I'm reading the comments and everyone's like, I thought of this. Me and my husband were saying this. I think it's like the most obvious. So that's why I feel like maybe they won't do it, you know, because it is like the most obvious.
Holy fuck. You are so knowledgeable. I'm here to sell my candles. No, I don't.
It was so cute after we wrapped. You're like, can I please have a picture?
So the obvious finale would be that Shreetala, the owner of the hotel,
is going to send the police back to the white lotus the hotel that everyone is at to get rick because he pointed the gun at her husband he pushed her husband over she realizes he's not who he said he was she sends the police to the white lotus and we have valentin and his like russian friends who did the robbery right we found out they are all like oh my god the police are coming for us
We have Timothy Ratliff, the father, who is like, oh my God, they're coming for me for my taxes.
I think he was.
Yeah.
He was like, they can't live in this world. I guess I'll take him out. Then we have Greg, who is going to be like, oh my God, Belinda called the police on me. And I think mayhem is going to ensue and everyone's going to be just like... going crazy, shooting, guns are everywhere, guns are flying, and that.
Who do I least want to die?
And gave him zero information about like what the job was. And she's like, oh, what movies have you seen?
Also, like, the Ratliff younger siblings, the daughter and the son, you know, we don't need them to die. I don't want Belinda to die. I don't want Belinda to die either.
No, the masseuse.
Yeah, it's been too much. If we were going to keep anyone, we could have kept Jennifer Coolidge.
Oh my God. A lot of F-bombs. I'm just saying. I don't know.
You were just, like, really quick to apologize and be like, I'm so sorry, we're best friends, I'm so sorry.
It's okay. We don't have to go back. I was just making a joke. It really wasn't that deep. But it is hard to watch Garcelle really like hold strong on that when it clearly was very traumatic for Dorit and her family. And then to still just like question the like, well, he left your phone and like the alarm system being off. It's like,
Let's do it. Our mutual friend Shug said that you, and I'm going to say like what it is wrong, but you like tie a rope to two mountains and you like free walk or something across it.
High lining. That's crazy. How did you, it's like, isn't it?
But it's like, it's based on balance, right? I mean, you have to be.
What made you want to learn that?
So you do shower a lot.
You just don't love soap that much.
You don't feel like you need to like wash all the salt off. You're kind of like, oh.
Did you grow up outside and doing a bunch of swimming and hiking and all that kind of stuff?
Did you grow up in LA?
It sounds like you're just saying like, you're like mumbling words together, San Luis Obispo. Yeah.
Real place. Okay, so you grew up there and you grew up doing all of this stuff. Yeah. So this isn't a new thing that you just picked up.
What extreme sport do you want to try next?
I'm pretty sure Dean is like, he does it by himself.
So she got you to watch reality TV. Does she participate in your extreme sports?
He put you on the spot and I'm like, well, I love them both.
That's my loyalty.
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Were you proved wrong?
Like if you say the name of the traitor, you think you'd be safe because why would they come after that person?
Kind of the same as Sam. Yeah.
Really? That's so funny. I don't remember saying that at all, but I stand by it clearly. People said that about Nick when he went on Special Forces. I remember being like, oh, my God, he's not going to last a day. He's not going to. And I mean, he ended up winning that show, too.
So it is funny how people like have this perspective that like you're going to suck and then to like prove them all wrong.
So what was your strategy going into it?
Who hurt you the most by betraying you? Was it Boston Rob or Danielle?
I mean, he left that trader's house feeling respected. Totally.
He makes great television.
The bug challenge with him, was that you picked him to be your teammate?
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Do you see yourself being more of a girl dad or... It's tough.
Is there anything that you are afraid of? You seem like you really just like go head first into anything, but is there something out there?
A lifelong friendship with Dolores.
Did, I mean, it was, I think when you went after Bob the Drag Queen, was his response when he kind of jumped at you and called you, you know, misguided and said your brother sucked at acting or all the, you know, did that kind of make you feel like, you know what?
How is watching it back then?
I just had a baby. Wasn't that why you didn't go?
Did that last argument from Gabby to Danielle kind of win you over in the like, maybe Gabby's not a traitor department?
Yeah, yeah. And Danielle went after Gabby.
Was there any split second when she was like begging you to put Ivor's name down instead of hers that you brought it now?
I know, but it was just the way she's like, Dylan, please, I'm begging you.
So you believed Danielle's tears the whole time?
Do you think, I thought in this, the moment with the chess board, obviously, that Carolyn and Danielle were able to manipulate. When she said Tom and Dolores kind of pointed that out and she was like, I'm not saying you're a traitor. She kind of got really defensive. Do you think her getting defensive is what put the target on her back?
That makes sense. I do feel like if she because Dolores is like, well, you were the first one to say Tom. And she's like, no, I wasn't. I wish I feel like if she would have been like, well, you know, he was really pitching himself and kind of like went along with it instead of getting so defensive. Maybe it wouldn't have been as bad.
Are you a good gift giver?
That's how you show it or that's what you want?
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Do you have a moment from your childhood that like sticks out as a really good memory?
Do you agree? Whose side are you on?
It was maybe 50 steps. Yeah.
He needed to get the remote.
But I did carry his child and give birth to her. So I don't really feel like I need to be getting up once I'm in the bed.
I can put things in the dishwasher.
Oh my God, when Nick's not there, I feel so free. I'm like, I can put the knife, he'll never know. The knives, the pots, the pans, everything's in the dishwasher.
Well, we do have a baby that needs to be bathed. So she, that is... It is nice.
It's so funny. There was some post or something somewhere that was like, what do your husbands or partners do if you're getting ready for a big event at your house? Thanksgiving at your house, you're hosting, whatever. What are your husbands or partners or boyfriends doing to help you? And it was like, mine cleans the garage. Mine goes and gets his car vacuumed.
It's like this stuff that you're like, no one's going to see that. No one cares, but thanks for getting that done. Yeah. So you're like, I'm refilling the water tank.
But it is crazy because he loves a maid bed.
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So how did Down to Earth come about? I remember when Nick saw your tagline on Traders, he was like, oh, that's so nice.
I remember saying, oh, this guy's Down to Earth.
What made you feel like you weren't ready to be his co-host?
Is there any and, you know, maybe there's, you know, a lot of people live with no regrets or whatever. But is there any like envy from either of y'all sides for like the life you live? Maybe it's like the childhood you have. Like, did he ever wish he could just like go and play football with his friends and not be on stage and not be performing and like vice versa?
It's like different obviously with girls, but I have a vivid memory of my sister and her friends being like, don't worry. Like she'll never have as big as boobs as you. And I like one day was like, ah! Here I am, bitch. Back to Down to Earth. So that, it started on YouTube and then where did I watch it on?