Natalie Joy

I don't want to.

And she did it for each person.

And that's hurtful.

And I just I don't like I'm the kind of friend and you and I texted about this.

That when someone says, well, she hasn't done anything to me, so I don't have a problem with her.

When I see someone do something unkind to someone I care about, I'm diving in.

Welcome to reality TV.

Right.

Yeah.

I just, I spent some time with Katie, you know, off camera.

We started out the season with her reaching out to Jen and I saying, let's do something for the fires.

in in los angeles and so i really helped i got the restaurant they donated the food we did this very small neighborhood type fundraiser but i was very instrumental in you know helping throw it together and we did spend time together and i really enjoyed her company like we always had a good time that's why i just was so shocked about certain things and then the stories change it just is an example

Gretchen told me that she was drugged and went to the hospital.

Then it turned into Gretchen got a toxicology report at the hospital.

Which, by the way, had that happened, Gretchen would have run to anyone in the press to show them that years ago.

And then it turned into Sheena Shea was the one that brought all this up.

It turns into ridiculousness.

Do I?

I mean, I do believe that all of us, when we have a microphone strapped to our back, we misspeak all the time.

I was there when Gretchen heard that Katie had said this story that she claimed she'd been roofied.