Natalie Joy

right you know she handled that part really well and i'm just not seeing jordan acknowledge his it's it's frustrating because again like obviously infidelity it's a terrible thing and it's very destructive and it's hurtful of course it's not a justification but there are situations where like you you can empathize with why someone maybe made a very poor mistake that they regret a la jesse

And it's frustrating to see Jordan, I guess, no better way of saying it, weaponize Jesse's mistake as a way to almost completely clear his name with some of the behavior that if I was in that relationship, I would be a shell of myself.

And I just don't know what you... People have their limits.

They do.

That is just a reality of life.

That's not the case for every situation where there's infidelity.

But in this particular case, my opinion when I'm watching it is that Jordan wants the public sympathy.

He wants Jesse to look bad.

That's just my opinion.

And yeah, it was hard to watch.

Anyways, we'll dive even deeper into Secret Lives of Mormon Wives on Thursday following part one of the Jesse and Jordan interview.

As a reminder, part one is just Jesse next week, and she really gets into the whole relationship with her and Jordan, talks about

uh their relationship and what you know kind of led to their falling out and a lot of your questions are answered and then part two the week following we have jesse and jordan together first it's just me and jordan we address some of his behavior and then we wrap up with jesse and jordan together it is a part two extravaganza you definitely do not want to miss so be sure to check that out all right we're going to wrap things up with the real housewives of c part two this is really giving part two in the

you know, part three.

Am I the only one who kind of felt that?

I felt like it was 45 minutes of like, whatever.

I thought the most interesting part of this episode was that not only Katie was not on some of these episodes, but like she didn't get paid.

I don't know who is to blame for Katie's paycheck being affected, but someone is.

And like whether Katie is or isn't lying, she wouldn't be the first housewife to lie or not lie.

Right.