Natalie Kitro-Eff

It's really easy to transport.

It's really easy to make.

You can make it, I saw, in a kitchen in Sinaloa.

Randomly, you can open a lab anywhere.

There is a kind of revolution that happens with that first step.

Okay.

Talk about that.

I want to hear about that.

This is the approach of the drug war.

It's to focus on enforcement, to focus on supply.

Basically what you've described as the idea that regulation just breeds innovation.

Okay, so now I want to talk about your latest investigation that recently came out that talks about the Cook County Jail in Chicago.

Because while these drugs might not be on every street corner yet, you have found that the place that they're almost being incubated is in American jails and prisons.

So walk me through what you found in Cook County.

Walk me through that story.

Well, so just to back up, what is on this paper?

Like, do they know?

You're describing the exorcistic fit, and I'm wondering what causes that.

Is it 10 different substances all in different quadrants?

To the extent that there's a calculation, the calculation is how bad can we make this?