Natalie Kitroeff

know who I could trust anymore.

We had to get blood work for her for one of her doctor's appointments.

And even my pediatrician was like, I don't know who you can go to.

So let's just go to this person and just tell them you want to get this blood work for another reason, but don't tell them what it's really for.

Because if they participated in gender affirming care, then they could lose their license.

So now you're having to lie to doctors.

Yeah, nothing feels sure.

So at what point do you guys start talking seriously about the idea of maybe having to leave Tennessee?

We were already kind of talking about it.

I don't know.

You always kind of talked about it.

It was...

I would go through periods where I was like, we've got to get out of here, especially when we started experiencing all these issues with getting health care.

And so we just started researching, like, where can we live?

And you're looking for...

What's the criteria that you're using?

Criteria.

Yeah.

Criteria is states that are blue.

We looked at there's maps that show laws that protect trans youth in which states have those that are the most protective.