Natalie Kitroff

Right.

It does strike me as honestly stunning because it feels as though just a few months ago, we were thinking of this president really as all powerful, as kind of invincible.

He was swept in with this mandate.

He was taking executive actions left and right.

And very quickly, you're saying he's now being seen within his own party as vulnerable, it sounds like.

Okay, so take us back to that time during the late summer when this started to emerge.

When did all of this start to feel distinct to you?

So, Robert, where do you first see the impact of that loss on MAGA?

Like, what's the first example of these divisions that were bubbling up, starting to spill out in the open after Kirk's death?

Let's just slow that down for a moment.

Can you tell us about Nick Fuentes?

Who is he?

The torch carriers, yeah.

And yet at the same time, right, Trump didn't disavow Fuentes.

He didn't condemn him after that infamous lunch.

He kind of said something like, I didn't know who this guy was.

I didn't invite him.

But there was no direct disavow.

They don't want to kick him out of the tent.

Yeah, my question exactly.