Natalie Kitroweth

They have all this oil just sitting around and they can't get it to where it's supposed to go.

And just explain, Rebecca, why it's such a big deal that they are turning off the spigot.

What does that actually mean?

And what countries are going to be most affected by what's happening?

Who's going to feel it first and most deeply?

These are pretty major decisions, right?

I mean, it's not just major for the countries that produce it.

It's the countries that are depending on it.

It has an immediate impact.

Right.

Just because we're not dependent on the straight in the same way, we are still affected by the disruption to it and the chaos that it unleashes on the market.

And to that end, Rebecca, is there anything the administration could do to limit the potential impact of all this on consumers in the U.S., especially as the war keeps going on?

Okay, so not a lot on the table, and what is available that could make a real difference may be quite radical.

What about longer-term solutions here?

I'm thinking about the 1973 oil embargo and how that compelled many countries, including the U.S., to reduce their dependence on oil.

Do you see this crisis as having a similar potential effect, forcing policymakers, lawmakers to rethink their energy needs, to redesign them?

In other words, what do you think the long-term lessons of this crisis could be?

Right.

And where Trump has been very adverse to these alternative fuel sources.

I mean, it's hard to imagine him jumping back into renewables in a way that we'd been seeing in the past.