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Rubio said the aggressive moves against USAID were not intended to get rid of foreign aid, but were necessary to rein the agency in. Remember to catch a new episode of The Interview right here tomorrow. This week, David talks with Denzel Washington.

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Today's episode was produced by Sidney Harper, Will Reed, Michael Simon-Johnson, and Stella Tan. It was edited by Brendan Klinkenberg and Mike Benoit. Fact Check by Susan Lee. Contains original music by Rowan Nemistow and Alicia Baituk. And was engineered by Alyssa Moxley. Our theme music is by Jim Brunberg and Ben Landsberg of Wonderly. That's it for The Daily. I'm Natalie Kittrella.

See you Monday.

See you Monday.

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitro-Eff. This is The Daily. Last week, financial markets went into a panic over an obscure Chinese tech startup called DeepSeek. That company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race for who will dominate it.

From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitro-Eff. This is The Daily. Last week, financial markets went into a panic over an obscure Chinese tech startup called DeepSeek. That company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race for who will dominate it.

Today, my colleague Kevin Roos, a tech columnist and the co-host of the podcast Hard Fork, on how DeepSeek caught us all off guard. It's Monday, February 3rd. Hi, Kevin. Hello.

Today, my colleague Kevin Roos, a tech columnist and the co-host of the podcast Hard Fork, on how DeepSeek caught us all off guard. It's Monday, February 3rd. Hi, Kevin. Hello.

So let's jump in. Kevin, how did this giant AI tech freakout begin? Tell us that story.

So let's jump in. Kevin, how did this giant AI tech freakout begin? Tell us that story.

How cheap are we talking?

How cheap are we talking?

Okay, we're going to get to those questions of who this company is and how they did this. But I just first want to dig into the anatomy of the market panic. What are the real fears driving this?

Okay, we're going to get to those questions of who this company is and how they did this. But I just first want to dig into the anatomy of the market panic. What are the real fears driving this?

Yeah. And should I maybe be investing in balsa wood cars?

Yeah. And should I maybe be investing in balsa wood cars?

Kevin, it certainly seems that at least based on what DeepSeek is saying, it has managed to pull off a pretty impressive feat here. But I'm wondering, can we trust what the company says? Can we trust their claims about how they pulled this off?

Kevin, it certainly seems that at least based on what DeepSeek is saying, it has managed to pull off a pretty impressive feat here. But I'm wondering, can we trust what the company says? Can we trust their claims about how they pulled this off?