Natalie Kitroweth

And we should say for listeners that before this interview, the team at The Daily got an official statement on this lawsuit from The New York Times company. It says that The Times stands by the story, saying it was meticulously and responsibly reported and that the company plans to, quote, vigorously defend against the suit.

And we should say for listeners that before this interview, the team at The Daily got an official statement on this lawsuit from The New York Times company. It says that The Times stands by the story, saying it was meticulously and responsibly reported and that the company plans to, quote, vigorously defend against the suit.

So, Megan, how did Baldoni's legal team respond to the second issue, Lively's allegations of sexual harassment during filming?

So, Megan, how did Baldoni's legal team respond to the second issue, Lively's allegations of sexual harassment during filming?

In effect, Wayfair is saying, yes, we made accommodations to Lively on set, but they weren't because of any underlying wrongdoing on our part.

In effect, Wayfair is saying, yes, we made accommodations to Lively on set, but they weren't because of any underlying wrongdoing on our part.

Megan, after all this, this whole discussion that we've had, I feel genuinely confused about what to think here. And I'm also keenly aware that this has been about public narratives and public perceptions all along. So where do we stand with that tug of war over narratives now?

Megan, after all this, this whole discussion that we've had, I feel genuinely confused about what to think here. And I'm also keenly aware that this has been about public narratives and public perceptions all along. So where do we stand with that tug of war over narratives now?

Yeah, I watched the video and read a lot of commentary about it. And what was striking to me was just how differently people were interpreting what it actually proved.

Yeah, I watched the video and read a lot of commentary about it. And what was striking to me was just how differently people were interpreting what it actually proved.

Why is that stuck in your mind?

Why is that stuck in your mind?

Megan, after spending all of this time looking deep into this story and this alleged smear campaign, seeing the responses from both sides, the debates about the responses, what's your takeaway from all this?

Megan, after spending all of this time looking deep into this story and this alleged smear campaign, seeing the responses from both sides, the debates about the responses, what's your takeaway from all this?

Right. And so in your mind, it sounds like the very existence of a campaign like the one alleged in the complaint that uses these new tactics and tools to prevent reputational damage, that's what's most significant here.

Right. And so in your mind, it sounds like the very existence of a campaign like the one alleged in the complaint that uses these new tactics and tools to prevent reputational damage, that's what's most significant here.

Megan, thank you so much.

Megan, thank you so much.

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