Natalie Kittrow

How is it possible that when so much has changed, the views have essentially remained the same?

You're saying basically Trump's approval numbers have remained stable, but they're at a pretty low point.

You mentioned Kilmar Obrego-Garcia and the people really didn't like the excesses of the administration on immigration.

So let's talk about those policies because, as you noted, more has happened along those lines.

There has been, in many ways, an escalation of some of those aggressive enforcement approaches.

More raids, more protests about those raids.

So what are people saying about immigration now?

Yeah.

What do you make of that?

Because it sounds like they want the thing that he's pursuing, but they don't like what he's actually doing to get there.

In terms of the potential for excesses, Nate, did you specifically ask about the deployment of the U.S.

military into American cities?

I mean, because in L.A.

and now in Portland, the deployment has been intended to reinforce ICE's agenda.

In D.C., it was more squarely about reducing crime.

But overall, do people see that as an overreach?

How do you square all of those things, Nate?

Is it just that people like the fact that he's prioritizing the problems that they care about, regardless of his approach?

Got it.

So it sounds like voters may not like the means that Trump is using in these cases, but they do approve of the ends of the goals on both immigration and public safety.