Natalie Nixon

And that is a way of breaking away from that overburdened cognitive load and the neocortex.

So I think that's fair.

I think it's totally fair.

But Nathan, do you find that sometimes when you come back from those rides, a challenge that had stymied you or a place where you felt stuck, it's something you weren't thinking about it consciously.

But do you find that sometimes things will click together or you'll think of someone who will pop up to you that you should call and talk to who could be helpful in the conundrum?

Well, unfortunately within ourselves, you know, there's that wonderful book, The Body Keeps the Score.

The body knows, the body will tell you.

And in my own personal burnout moment, I was doing my dream job.

I loved my work, but sometimes what happens when we love our work and it's a passion project, at least in my case, I wasn't really good at setting boundaries anymore.

for my personal space, for my personal rejuvenation, for my time.

And I was walking down the hallway around 5.15 p.m.

on a Wednesday afternoon from the photocopier.

I was a professor at the time.

I was the founding director of a really cool strategic design MBA program.

And I was walking down the hallway with my arms full of folders of papers to grade and

I heard someone say out loud, I don't want to do this.

And it was a really terse voice through gritted teeth.

And that voice was my own.

And I could not bottle it up anymore.

It surfaced and it tumbled out of my mouth.