Natalie Winters

Well, I think it's a different tone than we're used to seeing.

And I think part of that shift is because before, I think what they wanted to do was sort of have us voluntarily comply, right, with what they were trying to roll out.

I think we saw that in these euphemistic, you know, HR department approved terms like the Great Reset.

But now they've almost shifted from compelling and there almost seems like a more coercion or it's sort of this like post hoc, it's already happened analysis.

We're already in this new post rules based international order shifting to a new world order, which I was told we were conspiracy theorists for daring to even say that term for a very long time.

And I think that that is quite interesting because in a weird way, they're almost affirming the victories of MAGA, of President Trump, of the audience that composes this show.

by using our sort of conception of sovereignty, as you've always talked about, right?

The Westphalian nation state, sort of using that as a pretext to then justify shifting away from that because they find that inherently problematic.

And I always say, whenever you hear people like that who-

have never used the word sovereignty before.

It doesn't exist in their vernacular.

And then all of a sudden they start talking about it like Kamala Harris did on the campaign trail.

That is an immediate red flag because it's sort of this weird distortion of what they are talking about sovereignty actually meaning.

And I think when they talk about this euphemistic new world order,

I think it sort of links back, in a weird way, it's sort of this horseshoe theory of agreement with, I think, President Trump's take on where we stand right now in America.

It's why they're taking all these desperate measures, right?

We're at an inflection point.

And I would argue it through the lens, you know, more so of the Chinese Communist Party, where we're really at the inflection point of this idea of a Thucydides trap, right?

You have a rising power.

versus declining power, saying that the United States is the latter.