Natalie

It's giving he's trying to... It's giving I don't want people to find out about my past.

Anyway, another wild conversation was Emma and the whole kid conversation.

It's a fascinating conversation because obviously it really, I think her story is fascinating in general, being adopted, and she's been very open about all the feelings she has about having kids.

I just never heard a parent on camera, like it's recorded.

And she was like, I love my kids, but if I could do it over again, I wouldn't have kids.

And I mean, again, I appreciate the honesty, but like that, they're going to be playing that tape with their therapist coming up.

How do you, how do you explain that one to the kids?

You know, but also, you know, obviously the kids conversation is very sensitive for people.

I think on both sides, but like, I think it's, you know, if, if, if someone's like struggling with, Hey, do I want to have kids?

I don't want to have kids.

I think sometimes as parents who enjoy being parents, they can be a little pushy.

when it comes to their positive experience.

And sometimes you don't want to do that.

On the flip side, though, I couldn't imagine what it would be like to be on the fence, whether I want to have kids or not, and have a parent being like, kind of regret it.

And then someone's like, they'll ruin your vacation.

I mean, I guess.

I don't know.

We had a really lovely time with River in Mexico.

Yeah.

Don't you put on some slack given that there's a wedding two weeks away?