Nate Hagens

I think Leary had it, right?

Right.

Um, that reference I did understand.

Um, the, what could you see happening?

Like in a group of humans, if you have one or two of them, uh, being able to have this experience versus 90% of them, does that change the social interaction of that group?

Yes.

And have you seen that?

So thank you so much for this erudite whirlwind.

If you have a few more minutes, there are some standard questions I ask my guests.

This is so fun.

So what can someone listening to this episode do now, today, this week, or this month to generally help address the issues discussed in this podcast writ large, or is it all up to politicians and leaders?

Once again, for clarity, when we did the 4.9 seconds and I closed my eyes here, the viewers can't see, but I have two big industrial studio lamps here on my face.

So if I'm closing my eyes now, it's not true darkness.

So again, it's important to wear those goggles or be in a totally dark room or something like that.

And that matters, right?

Yes.

But for many of us, especially me, I'm asleep within two minutes of me laying down.

So the darkness retreat is pretty short.

And then I'm into dreamland.

So getting back to my closing questions, we have a lot of young people, surprisingly, that watch this platform.