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Nate Hagens

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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Maybe there's gasoline and diesel shortages and empty store shelves due to military action overseas.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Fear and uncertainty spike, people accept restrictions that they wouldn't normally accept, and a leader consolidates power and then surveillance expands and opposition is algorithmized, is that a word?

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

And suppressed, sometimes probably violently, sometimes just through social pressure and institutional capture.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Nate Hagenshaw, Ph.D.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

And that transition from open society to authoritarianism during crisis can happen in years or decades, such as the slow erosion of the Roman Empire.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

We've also seen it happen in months or even faster.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Modern examples were Peru in the 1990s and Tunisia a few years back.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

It's what I would label a behavioral downhill roll because once started, it gathered its own momentum and it follows the gravitational logic that we talked about in part two of this series.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Contraction plus fear pulls power towards consolidation.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

But now try to reverse all that.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Try to rebuild democratic governance after authoritarian rule.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

You would need, among other things, independent courts and a free press in a landscape where civic habits of debate and disagreement have atrophied.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

You would need institutional knowledge that was purged and a population that knows what self-governance feels like and believes that it's possible.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

You would need to rebuild trust itself.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Arguably, in my opinion, our most valuable resource from neighbor to neighbor and citizen to government.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

Such a transition probably takes a generation at minimum, often longer.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

And sometimes it doesn't happen at all.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

So the transition from democracy to authoritarianism downhill took months, but the transition back takes decades.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

This asymmetry, something my friend in Italy, Ugo Bardi, calls the Seneca effect, where things grow slowly and collapse suddenly, is not an accident or bad luck.

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
How to Think About the Future (Part 3): Uphill Futures in a Downhill World | Frankly 145

It's a feature of the landscape topography itself.