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Nate Rott

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Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

We are not in a we are not in an age of agreements.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

But, you know, like why I started looking at this big question now is because like one of the largest conservation groups in the world.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

Right.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

The International Union for the Conservation of Nature just weighed in on this debate that we're having right now at a big meeting this month.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

OK, so the IUCN's World Conservation Congress only happens every four years and not to get too wonky and bureaucratic.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

But the IUCN, for like anyone who doesn't know what it is, it basically uses the best available science to set conservation standards for the world to use.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

So Sue Lieberman, the vice president of international policy at the Wildlife Conservation Society, was at this meeting in Abu Dhabi last week.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

And she says it's important to know that the IUCN does not have any regulatory authorities, like it can't force governments to do anything.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

And last week they voted on two proposals that directly addressed synthetic biology.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

One which called for a moratorium on releasing any genetically modified species into the wild.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

And to be clear, it'd be like a temporary ban.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

So advocates for it, like European biologist Ricarda Steinbrecher, more or less described it as kind of like pumping the brakes on these new technologies until we better understand them.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

Because she says, you know, nature, as we all know, is in a super vulnerable place right now.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

And there are so many examples where well-intentioned human interventions have gone wrong.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

There are so many times that people introduced an animal purposely or accidentally and sometimes well-intentioned, and it upset the existing ecosystem.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

And Riccardo says when it comes to synthetic biology, there's a lot of hype around it.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

Yeah, so the other proposal basically says, OK, like if conservationists are going to explore using these technologies, here's how we should do it.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

But Sue Lieberman says even that was controversial at the recent meeting.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

That scientists like Anthony Waddell, who we heard from earlier, are already doing this research.

Short Wave
We Have the Cure. Why is Tuberculosis Still Around?

Scientists are looking right now at how to genetically modify coral to be more resistant to hotter temperatures in the water.