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I'm Nate Rott.

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Science correspondent Nate Rott here filling in for Emily and Regina.

Today, we're going to talk about a global disease that's long hammered sub-Saharan Africa particularly hard, HIV.

So Ari Daniel, for those who don't recognize your dulcet tones, is a freelance science reporter.

And Ari, I hear there's a pretty remarkable backstory to this vaccine we're going to talk about.

Okay, so where do you want to start?

All right.

I've always felt a strong affinity for sleepy.

Whoa, so just to be clear, Ari, you mean they collected blood from the same group of women for 20 years?

Who are these women?

In many ways, we've kind of had our legs cut off even as we're beginning to run the sprint.

Wow.