Nathan Carman

The bookkeeper is in fact stealing from the Chocolos' company. So obviously someone we want to talk to.

I think that there's a real possibility that the person who called him may have been a mistress.

I don't like saying that my grandfather was doing that, but I think there's that real possibility. It wasn't one of your aunts? No, it was not one of my aunts.

It was not one of my aunts, no one in the family, very young, about 20, 30, and he then told showed me to the door.

Did you go anywhere else that night or anything like that? Or did you just stay home? No, I didn't sleep because I was where I had to be at. I was supposed to be at the meet my mom at 3 o'clock. When I fall asleep, I have difficulty waking up. So I tried to stay awake. I did run out to stop and shop and I got some ice cream for myself.

I picked up a few AAA batteries because I was out of them and then I headed home. Then I stayed until I went back out to meet my mom.

Did that concern you at all in terms of looking at him as a suspect that maybe he might exhibit behavior that you wouldn't normally see but he does have a disorder?

No.

Do you own any firearms? I do have an air gun. I'm not sure if that counts as a firearm, but... Is it the only one? Yes, it is.

And since, because I just wasn't feeling safe at home, I did buy a shotgun. You did buy a shotgun? That's correct.

So, perhaps after.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And I want to stress that it wasn't an argument, because I want to stress that it was not an argument. She had always been kind of skittish. We're stopping right here with that question. Oh, OK.

They had a radio and there was also an EPIRB, which is an emergency position indicating radio beacon, on the boat. Like someone needs to be medevaced or when you know you're sinking. But I didn't know that we were sinking until we sank.

At that point, I didn't know if she had been dragged down with the ship, because neither of us had been wearing life vests. I assumed that if she had been on the surface, that she would have been calling out to me and I would have been able to find her.

I was looking out at the horizon for other ships or for helicopters when conditions were good. When the waves were high, because they got to like 13 feet and they were breaking waves at a few points, a few days.

Yes.

I know I wasn't responsible for anything that resulted from the boat sinking. I know I wasn't responsible for my mom's death.

I did not cause my mother's death. We're done here this evening.

No, there's not any truth to that. Our relationship had grown from where it had been. We did have a challenging relationship at one point in my life. She was the closest person in the world to me after my grandfather passed.

That's something that I can't comment on at this time.

Here's where I have a bit of an issue. My understanding was we were going to be sitting down and we were going to be talking about survival at sea.

I'm not talking about my relationship with my grandfather or with... If you want to ask me any more questions on that line, we're done here.

That's not what this interview is about.

I'm not aware that those people exist.

I've said the way it happened.

That's not true.

No, there were... I... We're done.

The only way that I can speak out against them is to say what actually happened. And that's what I've been trying to do.

Did you know anything about that? We're done for this evening, period. We're done here.

We're done here this evening.

It is absolutely unfair for the police to use the tragedy that happened to my mother and I as an opportunity to try to nail me for a murder that I didn't commit.

I say that there's no relationship.

I'm very grateful to the friends and family who attended in memory of my mom.

It's been very difficult.

I patched the holes. They seemed to be well patched. And at the time my mom and I went out, I felt that one, I knew those holes were above the waterline, and two, I felt that they were securely patched.

Nathan, this is United States Coast Guard, Boston.

Mom and I, two people, myself and my mom, We're fishing and there was a funny noise in the engine compartment. I looked and saw a lot of water. The boats dropped out from under my feet. When I saw the life raft, I did not see my mom. Have you found her?

Nathan Carman is bearing on my own behalf.

The loss of my mom has been extremely difficult for me, so I can sympathize with petitioners in that respect.

I'll say that some of the petitioners had awfully substantial moments. And I had very, very little.

This is the deposition of Nathan Carman.

I would say that I did, yes.

There was one inaccurate... I'm pleading the fifth.

I plead the Fifth.

No, we haven't been able to find her yet.

This isn't about money. It's an $85,000 claim. I almost feel like I have a responsibility to my mom to make sure that the truth comes out.

I would just like to thank the public for their prayers and for their concern for both my mother and for myself.

It would be great to have people embracing you, saying, we're glad you're home, we're glad you're alive. It hasn't been that.

Yes, I was very fortunate in that regard and I was able to really form a strong bond emotionally.

Running away from home was something that I felt that I had to do with the time. I don't fully understand or comprehend that sitting here now.

I'm not someone who understands relationships or who's good about talking about emotions.

My grandfather was the closest person to me. He was like a father to me. And I know I was like a son to him.