Nathan Johns

Hello and welcome from the bowels of the Sandman Stadium in Bilbao.

Leinster have been beaten 41-19 in what is now a fifth consecutive Champions Cup final defeat when they've reached this stage.

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Gerry Thornley, hello.

It's been a couple of hours now.

We've been working away since full time.

Now that thoughts have digested ever so slightly, what did you make of that?

Is this the worst of those final defeats?

So 2019, Sarri's up in Newcastle.

22 in Marseille against La Rochelle, 23 in Dublin against La Rochelle, 24 in London in Tottenham against Toulouse and now 26 in Bilbao.

Is this the worst because the gulf was so big?

And bear in mind, three is seen as good.

So they're way over that.

Nah, nah.

This is different.

Half-time, it is, but half-time, the decision to keep playing.

Oh, that, yes.

Yeah, Saracens scored at the clock on the red, and Bordeaux did today.

Put old Harry Byrne through an intercept and more finals under the sticks.

But it would have been, do you know what?