Nathan Kamstra

Indonesia doesn't have a great set of resources to do this because the insurance market's really immature here.

Yes.

No, he would be an insurance broker.

He would actually be the broker.

Well, yes, exactly.

I mean, I don't think of it

as not well represented in terms of configuration.

So the thing about these platforms is they're highly, they're very much dictated by local regulation.

And therefore, every company's gonna have its own special needs, its own special configurations, and its own implementation skills.

So Indonesia has not been represented in this platform space yet.

No.

And why not?

Well, one, because the insurance market has not, because there's two approaches you can take.

And what I've decided that we should do is focus on the markets that's about to be mature and then go after the other markets as opposed to what most people have done, which is focus on the more mature markets and then try to go into the other regions when it makes sense.

My favorite business book.

No, not at the moment.

My favorite one at the moment is actually, I'm using Kentico a lot.

I don't know if you've heard of that.

I'm on about four every night at this point.

Divorced.