Nathan Lambert
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first heard Feb 2025
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You see the labs put different energy into what they're trying to do.
And I think to demarcate the point in time when we're recording this, the hype over Anthropix Cloud Opus 4.5 model has been absolutely insane, which is just... I mean, I've used it and built stuff in the last few weeks, and it's...
It's almost gotten to the point where it feels like a bit of a meme in terms of the hype.
And it's kind of funny because this is very organic.
And then if we go back a few months ago, we can get the release date in the notes as Gemini 3 from Google got released.
And it seemed like the...
marketing and just like wow factor of that release was super high but then at the end of November Claude Opus 4.5 was released and the hype has been growing but Gemini 3 was before this and it kind of feels like people don't really talk about it as much even though when it came out everybody was like this is
Um, Gemini's moment to retake kind of Google's structural advantages in AI and Gemini three is a fantastic model and I still use it.
It's just kind of differentiation is lower.
And I agree with Sebastian, what you're saying with all of these, like the idea space is very fluid, but, um, culturally anthropic is known for betting very hard on code, which is called code thing is working out for them right now.
So I think that even if the ideas flow pretty freely, um,
So much of this is bottlenecked by human effort and kind of culture of organizations where Anthropic seems to at least be presenting as the least chaotic.
It's a bit of an advantage.
And if they can keep doing that for a while.
But on the other side of things, there's a lot of ominous technology from China where there's way more labs than DeepSeq.
Yeah.
Deep Seek kicked off a movement within China, I say kind of similar to how ChatGPT kicked off a movement in the US where everything had a chatbot.
There's now tons of tech companies in China that are releasing very strong frontier openweight models to the point where I would say that Deep Seek is kind of losing its crown as the preeminent open model maker in China and the likes of...
Z.AI with their GLM models, Minimax's models, Kimmy Moonshot, especially in the last few months, have shown more brightly.
The new DeepSeq models are still very strong, but that's kind of a, it could look back as a big narrative point where in 2025 DeepSeq came and then it kind of provided this platform for way more Chinese companies that are releasing these fantastic models to kind of have this new type of operation.
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