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Nathan Lambert

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1668 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

And the US government realized in October 7th, 2022, before ChatGPT released, that restriction on October 7th, which dropped and shocked everyone. And it was very clearly aimed at AI. Everyone was like, what the heck are you doing? Stable diffusion was out then, but not ChatGPT. Yeah, but not ChatGPT. So it was like starting to be rumblings. Of what Gen AI can do to society.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

And the US government realized in October 7th, 2022, before ChatGPT released, that restriction on October 7th, which dropped and shocked everyone. And it was very clearly aimed at AI. Everyone was like, what the heck are you doing? Stable diffusion was out then, but not ChatGPT. Yeah, but not ChatGPT. So it was like starting to be rumblings. Of what Gen AI can do to society.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

But it was very clear, I think, to at least like National Security Council and those sort of folks that this was where the world is headed, this Cold War that's happening. Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

But it was very clear, I think, to at least like National Security Council and those sort of folks that this was where the world is headed, this Cold War that's happening. Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

But it was very clear, I think, to at least like National Security Council and those sort of folks that this was where the world is headed, this Cold War that's happening. Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

This is the big risk, right? The further you push China away from having access to cutting edge American and global technologies, the more likely they are to say, well, because I can't access it, I might as well... No one should access it, right? And there's a few interesting aspects of that, right? China has a urban-rural divide like no other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

This is the big risk, right? The further you push China away from having access to cutting edge American and global technologies, the more likely they are to say, well, because I can't access it, I might as well... No one should access it, right? And there's a few interesting aspects of that, right? China has a urban-rural divide like no other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

This is the big risk, right? The further you push China away from having access to cutting edge American and global technologies, the more likely they are to say, well, because I can't access it, I might as well... No one should access it, right? And there's a few interesting aspects of that, right? China has a urban-rural divide like no other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

They have a male-female birth ratio like no other, to the point where if you look in Most of China, it's like the ratio is not that bad. But when you look at single dudes in rural China, it's like a 30 to 1 ratio. And those are disenfranchised dudes, right? Like, quote unquote, like the US has an incel problem like China does too. It's just they're placated in some way or cut, crushed down. What

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

They have a male-female birth ratio like no other, to the point where if you look in Most of China, it's like the ratio is not that bad. But when you look at single dudes in rural China, it's like a 30 to 1 ratio. And those are disenfranchised dudes, right? Like, quote unquote, like the US has an incel problem like China does too. It's just they're placated in some way or cut, crushed down. What

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

They have a male-female birth ratio like no other, to the point where if you look in Most of China, it's like the ratio is not that bad. But when you look at single dudes in rural China, it's like a 30 to 1 ratio. And those are disenfranchised dudes, right? Like, quote unquote, like the US has an incel problem like China does too. It's just they're placated in some way or cut, crushed down. What

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

you do with these people? And at the same time, you're not allowed to access the most important technology. At least the US thinks so. China's maybe starting to think this is the most important technology by starting to dump subsidies in it, right? They thought EVs and renewables were the most important technology. They dominate that now, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

you do with these people? And at the same time, you're not allowed to access the most important technology. At least the US thinks so. China's maybe starting to think this is the most important technology by starting to dump subsidies in it, right? They thought EVs and renewables were the most important technology. They dominate that now, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

you do with these people? And at the same time, you're not allowed to access the most important technology. At least the US thinks so. China's maybe starting to think this is the most important technology by starting to dump subsidies in it, right? They thought EVs and renewables were the most important technology. They dominate that now, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

Now they started thinking about semiconductors in the late 2010s and early 2020s, and now they've been dumping money and they're catching up rapidly. And And they're going to do the same with AI, right? Because they're very talented, right? So the question is like, when does this hit a breaking point, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

Now they started thinking about semiconductors in the late 2010s and early 2020s, and now they've been dumping money and they're catching up rapidly. And And they're going to do the same with AI, right? Because they're very talented, right? So the question is like, when does this hit a breaking point, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

Now they started thinking about semiconductors in the late 2010s and early 2020s, and now they've been dumping money and they're catching up rapidly. And And they're going to do the same with AI, right? Because they're very talented, right? So the question is like, when does this hit a breaking point, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

And if China sees this as, hey, they can continue... If not having access and starting a true hot war, right? Taking over Taiwan or trying to subvert its democracy in some way or blockading it hurts the rest of the world far more than it hurts them, this is something they could potentially do, right? And And so is this pushing them towards that? Potentially, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

And if China sees this as, hey, they can continue... If not having access and starting a true hot war, right? Taking over Taiwan or trying to subvert its democracy in some way or blockading it hurts the rest of the world far more than it hurts them, this is something they could potentially do, right? And And so is this pushing them towards that? Potentially, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#459 โ€“ DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

And if China sees this as, hey, they can continue... If not having access and starting a true hot war, right? Taking over Taiwan or trying to subvert its democracy in some way or blockading it hurts the rest of the world far more than it hurts them, this is something they could potentially do, right? And And so is this pushing them towards that? Potentially, right?