Nathan Lambert
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first heard Feb 2025
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And the ability to create open models that are half a generation or a generation beyond what the cutting edge of a closed labs is costs orders of like $100 million, which is a lot of money, but not a lot of the money to these companies.
So therefore, we need a centralizing force of people who want to do this.
And I think we got signed engagement from people pretty much across the full stack, whether it's policy.
I don't think anyone technically in government has signed it publicly, but I know that people that have worked in AI policy, both in Biden and Trump administration, are very supportive of trying to promote open source models in the US.
I think, for example, AI2 got a grant from the NSF for $100 million over four years, which is like
the biggest CS grant the NSF has ever awarded, and it's for AI2 to attempt to this, and I think it's a starting point.
But the best thing happens when there are multiple organizations building models, because they can cross-pollinate ideas and kind of build this ecosystem.
Like, I don't think if it just works if it's just Lama releasing models to the world, because then you can see Lama can go away.
The same thing applies for AI2, where it's like, I can't be the only one building models.
And I think that's like...
It becomes a lot of time spent on talking to people, whether they're in policy.
I know NVIDIA is very excited about this.
I think Jensen Wong has been specifically talking about the urgency for this, and they've done a lot more in 2025 where the Nematron models are more of a focus.
They've started releasing some data along with NVIDIA's open models.
And, like, very few companies do this, especially of NVIDIA's size.
So, like, there is signs of progress.
And we hear about Reflection AI, where they say their $2 billion fundraise is dedicated to building US open models.
And I feel like their announcement tweet is, like, it reads like a blog post out, right?
And I think that that...
cultural tide is starting to turn.
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