Nathan Radke

I mean, this is such an interesting question.

And we ask us about gaslighters.

We ask it about cult leaders.

Are they getting high on their own supplies?

The question.

And I think it's even more strange and complicated than that.

It isn't a question of whether they believe their own lies.

It's that the idea of truth entirely is jettisoned.

It's abandoned.

It doesn't matter.

Truth is irrelevant.

What matters is the narrative you're trying to push.

You're fully committed to that narrative above all other things.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

I mean, we can, if we're sticking with war for a second, we can talk about the Vietnam War.

Now, of course, famously, the Vietnam War was an extremely difficult war for the Americans to fight.

Despite having, of course, a far more powerful military than North Vietnam, they were dragged into a war for all sorts of reasons.

Asymmetrical warfare is sometimes hard to fight.

And so the Vietnam War went very badly for the people of Vietnam and also badly for America.

But during that war, for years and years and years, American families were being told by government spokespeople just how well the war was going.