Nathan

That I think is it. And I was trying to put my finger on it and you just, I think you just said it. One of the characters that I think is best to describe the dehumanization of Wrath is the Incredible Hulk. Oh, interesting. Go more into that. I don't know. Well, you won't like me when I'm angry. That's his main jam.

That I think is it. And I was trying to put my finger on it and you just, I think you just said it. One of the characters that I think is best to describe the dehumanization of Wrath is the Incredible Hulk. Oh, interesting. Go more into that. I don't know. Well, you won't like me when I'm angry. That's his main jam.

And that, I think, is the moniker for how we in pop culture look and resonate with wrath. Like angry people, we don't like them. We don't generally like angry people, even when we see that part of us, that part of them in ourselves. Right. but the character as a sociological exercise is this character who is totally chill until he's not. And then he's out of control and full of shame and regret.

And that, I think, is the moniker for how we in pop culture look and resonate with wrath. Like angry people, we don't like them. We don't generally like angry people, even when we see that part of us, that part of them in ourselves. Right. but the character as a sociological exercise is this character who is totally chill until he's not. And then he's out of control and full of shame and regret.

And it didn't take long for this other character to be invented abomination, which is this character of a guy who welcomed that sort of wrath, like to be free and not constrained by it was, it was, um, It was in the Ang Lee. Oh, the Edward Norton – Hulk, which one was it in the one with abomination and William Hurt was introduced?

And it didn't take long for this other character to be invented abomination, which is this character of a guy who welcomed that sort of wrath, like to be free and not constrained by it was, it was, um, It was in the Ang Lee. Oh, the Edward Norton – Hulk, which one was it in the one with abomination and William Hurt was introduced?

I think it was just Yeah, I think it was it was just the Hulk one, the main first one in the series, classic Hulk plane, Hulk, Hulk, yeah, Vanilla Hulk. And, and so it was, it was this exercise in, like, this is what happens when you sort of weaponize wrath, and it's ugly, and the character design is ugly it and it is worse than the Hulk's view version of wrath, right? It's disgusting.

I think it was just Yeah, I think it was it was just the Hulk one, the main first one in the series, classic Hulk plane, Hulk, Hulk, yeah, Vanilla Hulk. And, and so it was, it was this exercise in, like, this is what happens when you sort of weaponize wrath, and it's ugly, and the character design is ugly it and it is worse than the Hulk's view version of wrath, right? It's disgusting.

And I think that's a really interesting exercise because it really demonstrates the dehumanization, the literal dehumanization. It turns humans into monsters.

And I think that's a really interesting exercise because it really demonstrates the dehumanization, the literal dehumanization. It turns humans into monsters.

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Well, then it's Lovecraft, right? Like then it's, Then it's an example of the unseen mysterious evil that just does bad, but we don't get the sort of power fantasy, right? Because wrath in pop culture is seen as a mode of empowerment. John Wick is an empowering movie because you can kind of put yourself in a suit and having skills that nobody else has. And oh, speaking of skills, right?

Well, then it's Lovecraft, right? Like then it's, Then it's an example of the unseen mysterious evil that just does bad, but we don't get the sort of power fantasy, right? Because wrath in pop culture is seen as a mode of empowerment. John Wick is an empowering movie because you can kind of put yourself in a suit and having skills that nobody else has. And oh, speaking of skills, right?

Like what is the Neeson movie? I have a certain set of skills, right? Yeah. So that's, those are power fantasies that allow us to live vicariously and be fulfilled by this thing that we can't, as you said earlier, we can't exude ourselves. So there's this other interpretation that I found that was really interesting that used the words moral disengagement.

Like what is the Neeson movie? I have a certain set of skills, right? Yeah. So that's, those are power fantasies that allow us to live vicariously and be fulfilled by this thing that we can't, as you said earlier, we can't exude ourselves. So there's this other interpretation that I found that was really interesting that used the words moral disengagement.

Oh, like, you know, the rules, but you don't care. Yeah. Right. So we, as members of the audience. get to look at this character like John Wick again, we'll say, and suspend our ethical standards temporarily in order to rationalize extremely violent or angry, wrathful behavior as justifiable in that context, something that we know we would never do.

Oh, like, you know, the rules, but you don't care. Yeah. Right. So we, as members of the audience. get to look at this character like John Wick again, we'll say, and suspend our ethical standards temporarily in order to rationalize extremely violent or angry, wrathful behavior as justifiable in that context, something that we know we would never do.

My first experience with that, like really recognizing it was John Rambo, right? First Blood. I saw First Blood. I was like, this guy is killing police officers in an incredibly violent way. And he, yet he is just a guy returning from the war that nobody understands. He deserves to have this. He deserves this retribution to serve it to others who deserve his wrath.

My first experience with that, like really recognizing it was John Rambo, right? First Blood. I saw First Blood. I was like, this guy is killing police officers in an incredibly violent way. And he, yet he is just a guy returning from the war that nobody understands. He deserves to have this. He deserves this retribution to serve it to others who deserve his wrath.