Neal Freiman

Have they tried putting pineapple on it?

Some of the mistakes at Papa John's were pretty shocking.

This is crazy to me.

Different locations, different franchisees were cooking pizzas at different temperatures.

I thought this thing was completely standardized.

This would never happen at Domino's.

But Papa John's, their ovens are set to different temperatures.

And this pizza that's supposed to be the same in San Francisco as it is in Atlanta as it is in New York City.

So I thought that was pretty surprising.

They're also shaking up their menu, too.

They are ditching Papa Dia's sandwiches and Papa Bites pizza rolls, which why would you even get into pizza rolls?

You can never compete with Totino's in the first place.

But I think what you said is is very accurate.

This this total pie, we should say, is not growing at all.

And Domino's.

Yes, but Domino's is gaining market share.

And their CEO says, we are actually very bullish.

We are aiming to double our market share.

And all of their competitors, Pizza Hut, Papa John's, those are the top two.

They're aiming to sell themselves because things are just not going well.