Neal Tricarico

And I'd maybe pose it back as a question to you because I don't know because I didn't live his life and it was such a struggle for me.

But I guess the question that comes from it for me is it ultimately better to appear to be emotionally connected or might it be better to appear...

as you are in your most authentic, real way, that emotion isn't a part of your makeup and other things are?

Yeah, my gut is the latter.

Yeah, me too.

And that's what I love about you and your show.

And I think it's a really interesting question we should explore with you and others like you, because I've seen the impact of

how hard he masked.

I mean, he took his life.

Now, I wonder if he got through this critical period, might that help him in later years?

But in some ways, it's not being true to yourself, right?

We want to transcend trying to fit in to being acknowledged and accepted.

So as I sit here, but not living in your shoes or his shoes,

And my opinion would be that we should be authentic.

And those of us that are emotional and are looking for that emotional connection should look to accept for people how and where they are and try and find that connection point.

And as we're sharing this, it makes me think about just how hard it was to connect with Anthony because being vulnerable and real is I'm a very, he's authentic too, but a very emotional person.

So I was trying to

impart or ingrain that emotional connection, whereas in hindsight, I maybe could have done a better job of letting that go and trying to find what was his juice.

Yes, that's right.

That's right.