Neama Rahmani

Go ahead.

Well, I really believe, Nancy, when people see this outward appearance, they're dressed so well, they look so terrific, that they buy that, that they believe that that's what they really like.

And they have no idea what's going on behind the scene.

And actually, the fact that he says he trusts his brother, I was thinking, yeah, they trust, all of them trust each other in supporting the crimes that they committed, which made it even worse because they were encouraged.

It's a perversion, Nancy.

They're getting off on raping, sodomizing.

A normal relationship, the kind that you're referring to, does not excite them.

They have gotten used to this kind of rape and violence since they were in high school.

And this is what gets them excited.

Nothing else.

They're damning.

It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime, Nancy.

And whatever got them off when they were doing it, whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms, they can do that all over again repeatedly because they have these trophies.

It's great if it's a video, but it can be an earring.

It could be a necklace.

It could be a piece of clothing.

It doesn't matter.

They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at the time and how much they controlled the situation.

It has, but Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women.

We're talking about drug-induced orgies, right?