Ned Ryun

spending money rallies are going to be great, but Trump's going to have to spend probably three, maybe 400 million out of MAGA Inc.

I know other big donors are thinking about making significant investments.

So structurally an investment, we need to make sure we're working on the right numbers and then fully fund these efforts in really tight house districts.

So

I'm not overly bullish, but there's a hint of bullishness about me in regards to the House elections next November.

No, I think you made a couple of good points there.

Let's not underestimate their ability to implode and light themselves on fire.

I mean, they have historically low approval ratings.

Democrats do.

I think you made an interesting point, too, that I want to highlight to people.

I've been in politics again a long time.

Not too long ago, it was we hoped for low turnout elections because that's how we would win.

Completely changed under Trump.

Trump brings out the mid to low propensity voters, and we have to have high turnout elections to win.

When Trump's on the ballot, that's a dynamic we see.

And the thing that guys like me are trying to solve for the midterms, how do you make those mid to low propensities more reliable voters?

Well, if you can get them to request a ballot, Vince, which is not easy and it costs you money, but if you can get them to request a ballot, we can turn anyone that requests a ballot that's a mid to low propensity voter into about an 80 percent chance that they'll vote in that next election.

And so when I talk about the underlying numbers, this is a key part to to us being successful in the midterms.

For Trump, like Trump only voters or mid to low props actually becoming more consistent and turning up in 26.

So I love the theme that Susie and Trump are saying this is going to be a referendum on Trump and the success.