Neera Tanden

Great to be with you, Dan.

Great to be with you, Dan.

I don't blame you for his inauguration.

I don't blame you for his inauguration.

Well, I think resistance is very different from 2017. We are in a very different time. The president, President Trump, is much more dangerous. The country is in a much more fertile place right now for him.

Well, I think resistance is very different from 2017. We are in a very different time. The president, President Trump, is much more dangerous. The country is in a much more fertile place right now for him.

Fertile and I'll say, I mean, meaning essentially, you know, because he won the popular vote. I think a lot of people are believe he has, you know, he has the majority with him and are much more scared of him. In 2017, he lost a popular vote. A lot of people thought it was a fluke. So you didn't see institutions sort of pre obey or gave.

Fertile and I'll say, I mean, meaning essentially, you know, because he won the popular vote. I think a lot of people are believe he has, you know, he has the majority with him and are much more scared of him. In 2017, he lost a popular vote. A lot of people thought it was a fluke. So you didn't see institutions sort of pre obey or gave.

So I think the moment right now is much more dangerous in a real sense because I think Bannon and Trump and Russ Vogt look at America as a battlefield, and they are really systematically not just trying to advance their own forces, but take out oppositional organizations, things that they see as oppositional to them. whether it's the media or law firms or universities or unions.

So I think the moment right now is much more dangerous in a real sense because I think Bannon and Trump and Russ Vogt look at America as a battlefield, and they are really systematically not just trying to advance their own forces, but take out oppositional organizations, things that they see as oppositional to them. whether it's the media or law firms or universities or unions.

So the country is in a much more dangerous place. And also, frankly, the brand of the Democratic Party is in a very different place than it was eight years ago. Eight years ago, again, Hillary Clinton didn't win the Electoral College, but she did win the popular vote. And also President Obama was seen as a successful president. And so the party was in a much stronger position than it is now.

So the country is in a much more dangerous place. And also, frankly, the brand of the Democratic Party is in a very different place than it was eight years ago. Eight years ago, again, Hillary Clinton didn't win the Electoral College, but she did win the popular vote. And also President Obama was seen as a successful president. And so the party was in a much stronger position than it is now.

So I think, you know, resistance and opposition today has to mean. Three things. One, really trying to drive facts about what Trump is doing and really make clear to the American people in the miasma of Greenland and Canada, he's actually harming your pocketbook, he's taking away security for your families, health security. raising prices. So it's really driving that connection.

So I think, you know, resistance and opposition today has to mean. Three things. One, really trying to drive facts about what Trump is doing and really make clear to the American people in the miasma of Greenland and Canada, he's actually harming your pocketbook, he's taking away security for your families, health security. raising prices. So it's really driving that connection.

I also think it's vital that we create an alternative agenda so that people see that they have two choices of change, not just Trump's wrecking ball versus a Democratic Party status quo. And then third, and I think this really goes to the democracy point, we have to think about how we bolster institutions and

I also think it's vital that we create an alternative agenda so that people see that they have two choices of change, not just Trump's wrecking ball versus a Democratic Party status quo. And then third, and I think this really goes to the democracy point, we have to think about how we bolster institutions and

buck them up and really push against institutions that want to cave to Trump because, you know, that is also very, very dangerous and different.

buck them up and really push against institutions that want to cave to Trump because, you know, that is also very, very dangerous and different.

Yes, yes.

Yes, yes.