Neil deGrasse Tyson

But then you could just use the island.

You don't need that.

And how much of this relates to the fact that it's hard for something to understand itself?

Like, can the brain, the human brain, actually come to understand the human brain?

Or do you need a higher intelligence than the human brain to then study the human brain as a thing outside of itself?

Thank you, Chuck.

So we got to land this plane.

Let me just offer my best evidence for why I think we live in a simulation.

I'm just going to go public on this.

I think right when civilization is kind of going smooth...

then something happens okay a politician rises up there's a war there's a world war there's tsunamis and i think that the aliens program that in for their own entertainment because that's what we did in the sim in the sim games in sim city where you're mayor of a city and everything's going fine

unannounced Godzilla trouches through your city.

And now you have to deal with it with the fire and the police and to rebuild the schools.

And that's the programmer sending that in without telling you that's going to happen.

I think all of the troubles we have in the world is evidence

that the programmers need entertainment.

Yeah, well, Nick, like I said, we've got to land this plane.

Thank you for coming out to StarTalk.

This conversation was long overdue.

I wanted to get you a few years ago, but you were in high demand, and you still are, for sure.