Neil deGrasse Tyson

So when people say, United States, we're such energy hogs, we use four times, five times the energy as anybody else.

Well, that correlates with other measures of power that exist in it.

So let's keep going.

So one more, level four, level five, if you control all the energy of the universe and then

You know, you're indistinguishable from a god that anyone would have suggested.

Now, so what are we?

We're digging fossil fuels out of the earth with no control.

We're level 0.5.

We're level 0.3.

No, we're level zero, okay?

We're level zero.

Okay, so Nick, if there's a super intelligence, presumably they have better access to energy, especially the kind of energy you're talking about that might need this simulation.

So have you thought about where a super intelligence might fit on the Kardashev scale?

Yeah, that's a good point, because you can only have one

galactic, Kardashian-scale civilization, because anyone else who wants it too bad, we're using all the energy.

It's like in the United States right now, there's fights over the Colorado River Basin because it's a water source.

That river flows through multiple states, and each state has a pact with the other state how much water they're supposed to use.

And there'll be future fights on access to this one source of fresh water.

And so that's an interesting point.

You can't have a universe filled with high Kardashev level civilization because they would implode rapidly, it seems to me.