Neil deGrasse Tyson

And spoiler alert, it sounds like we kind of are.

It sounds like, yeah.

Okay, when StarTalk returns.

We're back, StarTalk.

I've got Nick Bostrom in the house.

Actually, he's in the UK right now, but he's in our Zoom house.

And we're talking about the simulation hypothesis.

And which he's largely started, okay?

And so we blame him for all of our lost sleep at night.

I, at least I, Nick, I blame you if no one else does.

So, so Nick, the simulation hypothesis requires that every simulation has computers, right?

Why is that an obvious thing?

In fact, we've only had computers for like half a century, and we've been human for a couple hundred thousand years in our current form.

Why should it be inevitable that a computer is the thing that gets invented that then people want to simulate on?

Oh, that's an interesting point.

Okay.

Because the contingencies of evolution...

Right.

In fact, if the asteroid didn't hit 65 million years ago, the dinosaurs would be here and we wouldn't, for sure.

You take it late enough, Nick, that's a good argument.