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The company behind Setup with Confintech, the guys who are running Setup with Confintech and InsurTech, we are called Rainmaking Innovation.

What we do is corporate innovation.

So what we do is we actually make money out of the corporate engagements that go outside the accelerator.

So we sit down with a large bank, with a large insurer, and we have very honest conversations about the innovation needs.

And the accelerator piece could be one of them because this is where they want to do some early stage stuff.

They want to have that visibility, et cetera.

But then they have internal innovation needs.

They need to understand how to change the culture of the company to be more entrepreneurial, how to get people to understand what they need to do, how to educate the executives, but also very concrete projects all the way to co-creating businesses with the corporates.

And all of this is what we make money from.

So the accelerator in that sense is not necessarily driven by a commercial perspective.

Oh my God.

I have to say the, the, the Jesus, you're really catching me on a bad day.

I had a really bad quote, the lean startup book.

All right.

I'm very plain, I love using things like Slack.

It's 6.30 p.m.

in London, but I usually operate at about five hours sleep a day.

We see it in the UK.

We don't even have that.

Nobody cares about that.