Niall Donald

But certainly not back in 2009.

You know, the American government still have to request information and that has to be accepted.

We are maybe lapdogs, but we're still a sovereign state to the U.S.,

I mean, I suppose the broader question is, this is, you know, roughly 20 years ago, a bit less than 20 years ago.

You know, is it unfair on the guy that this is brought up?

I mean, it's certainly harsh on him, I think, because I think it has been said by him and by his family that he's lived a blameless life in the U.S.,

Now, while everything is in the modern world, when it comes to immigration in the US, everything is contested and every reality has a couple of different opinions.

But we'll come back when we hear more developments on this case.

Yeah.

OK, thanks, Eimear.

So there was very little happening that day.

It's February.

It's kind of a quiet enough time for news in general.

And Alan Cherry and Ernie Leslie were on the road.

They were at another story, actually, in Finglas.

Well, it was one of these classic sort of district court stories where a guy had, I think some teenagers had thrown stones at his car and he got out and slapped the teenager.

Always great kind of human stories because some people feel sorry for the teenagers and some people don't.

And so Alan had been out there

but he the guy had moved on he called out to his house to see if he wanted to talk he'd moved on he wasn't there and we discussed going to the Regency earlier and I said look just go along and see what happens you know divert there and

You know, we obviously weren't expecting anything.