Niall Donald

Would they not be?

The mid 2010s.

Yeah, still a relatively young family.

Retirement isn't probably as clear as, you know, running away and living on an island somewhere.

But yeah, certainly since the moment he's been landing in Dubai, he seems to have been preparing a number of outs.

It is pretty scary, yeah.

Well, since I'm very boring and do nothing, I'll be okay.

It's you that has to worry more.

Well, I'm pretty... I don't need AI to predict my movements.

Thanks, Nicola.

I think he's the most interesting of all the gangland criminals, really, if you see where he's come from and where he's ended up and how he's managed to navigate through all of those eras of organized crime.

An incredible story.

If he was involved in another arena of life, he'd be regarded as a kind of heroic businessman.

But of course he's not.

He's involved in a murderous cartel.

But an incredible story.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's very interesting, the heroin addict.

And maybe we'll come back to that.

That would have been a good job, a well-earning job, certainly taxis back in the day when taxis were protected.

His father was also at some point registered or I think as a dairy farm manager.