Niall Donald

But as you said, Ernie had taken a picture of the back of his camera.

People will know what the photographer's cameras look like.

And they have a little digital screen.

You don't see it in great detail.

But we knew this is a once in a lifetime photograph has been gotten.

I mean, because it is complex.

I mean, normally the journalism likes to keep itself separate from the Garda investigations.

So Garda investigations go on and...

journalism reports on them.

But obviously then you're put in this compromising position because you have guys running out visibly with handguns in their hands and you know they're obviously then disappeared into the ether and you have, certainly you have to have a discussion about what is your civic responsibility in terms of do you help the guards, do you, you don't want these armed gunmen to run down the street and kill another few people.

So it was a complex one and people were aware straight away that the guards are going to want these pictures and want to use it for their purposes.

And we also have our purposes, which is to tell what happened and to report on the news.

So there was a conflict straight away.

Nobody could have guessed and

Of course, those rumors straight away went around.

It was straight away focused on the Hutch gang.

But at this time, if you remember, while there had been other incidents, for example, an attempted hit on Jerry Hutch in Lanzarote, those incidents weren't always public.

People were straight away thinking this isn't the type of normal organized crime operation.

They were looking at the weapons saying, is there a paramilitary organization involved here?

And nobody knew fully.