Niall Donald

Now, if you walk through East Cabra now, you can't.

There's organic coffee shops and all of that sort of stuff and houses being sold for routinely close to half a million pounds.

Like back in the 60s, it wouldn't have been so much like that, I think.

And those houses, like a lot of places in sort of stony batter or somewhere like that, those houses wouldn't have been seen as, you know, posh houses.

Would a taxi driver's wage have bought that house?

Well, it would have, you know, it would have, I mean, it would be far, far bigger than most houses in that area and would have cost a lot of money.

But I suppose it's a different context and Cabra would have been different then

And Christie Kinnan would have been growing up in the 60s, early 70s when he's a teenager.

And Cabra at that stage would have been a lot kind of wilder, I suppose.

Like a lot of areas, there was a lot of homes built at one stage and young people grew up.

And, you know, it certainly would be a far more settled area, just like places in places like Crumlin and Drimna have become far more settled as the time has gone on.

So he would have been brought up in an area that I wouldn't describe as being a sort of upper middle class, middle class area.

He would have been grown up in a working class area, in a big house in a working class area.

It is a huge leap.

And people would have said to me, for example, that, you know, the connection between the Cavanagh and the Kinnan family, for example, has always been a bit... This is Bomber Cavanagh's parents.

Balmer Cavanagh's parents would have known Christie Kynan's dad.

They would have been friendly.

All those people have no involvement in crime.

There's no suggestion of that, but that it would have been, I suppose, you know, maybe not as straightforward as this is a, he's a middle class guy.

It's somewhere along that line, I suppose.