Niall Donald

It's somewhere along that line, I suppose.

And like most Irish people, you know, the poverty is only one generation away, I suppose.

And, you know, it just shows you when somebody gets as big a news story as Christy Kinahan that his leaving results have been made public.

Do you know that?

Didn't know that.

And maybe not made public, but the son did a story about how he actually failed his leaving.

Right.

So...

Christy Kinhan, look, there's no doubt about him being smart, but certainly that was said, that he only passed two subjects.

He would have gone to, it's said he went to Declan's in Cabra first and got expelled and then went to O'Connell's in the north inner city.

Now, O'Connell's

Christian Brothers School, probably one of the most famous schools in Dublin.

My own father would have gone there.

People would have got a scholarship and it would have seemed to have been a really prestigious school.

Past pupils would have included James Joyce, Pat Kenny, the broadcaster, former Taoiseach Sean Lamas, PJ Marra.

Also, interestingly, and probably a relative contemporary of Christy Kinnan would have been Tony Gregory would have gone there, who would play a huge prominent role in the anti-drugs marches in the city.

So he would have gone, he would have, again, that would have been sort of a prestigious school.

But he seems to have not thrived.

And then I think we get into a bit of a grey area when he leaves school.

Yes, and that was a thing that he kept up, I think, through all his life, one way or another.