Niall Donald

What is he like?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Though people do say he was...

a very charming person you know if he gave you his attention that you know people did really warm to him or he had a charisma and that yeah that even in the boxing world while some of the tributes to him are you know they're almost manufactured or they serve a purpose

People did say as well he could be really helpful and really considerate to the boxers.

Now he might have had an agenda there and it certainly suited his purpose to become big in that world but he had a lot of sort of energy to give there and could be

you know, really look after people.

I mean, that's the good side.

And I'm not comparing him to Donald Trump, but that is something people will say about Donald Trump.

Well, okay.

Well, I'm not directly comparing him, but what people would say that about Donald Trump that... Personality wise, yeah.

Yeah, that Donald Trump, if he gets on your side, he's absolutely brilliant and funny and charming.

And, you know, he'll go to great lengths to help you out.

Of course, we all know the other side to Trump is that he can be vengeful and he can really hold on to bitterness towards the people who he perceives having slighted him.

And I think there is a bit of that in Daniel Kinnan as well.

The boxers, he had a real interest in being a hero there and he really was almost heroic with them.

It's a God complex, isn't it?

It is, and remember that, you know, if you're... The thing about being a gangland criminal of Daniel Kinahan's level is, like, you know, it's probably not like any other job in the world in that grown men will really... They really...

I mean, the boxers loved the fact he was a gangster.