Niall Donald

But it's kind of a separate thing.

So that just shows you...

What it was, was there was all these interconnected people that... It was very complicated.

I mean, it was certainly suspected by the littles.

Now, I mean, bizarrely, Caelan Smith, the reason we can say he was a suspect is because he went and did this sort of public lie.

I mean, he couldn't really make it up, but he went and did a lie detector test.

In England.

In England.

Yeah.

And then...

was he pictured or videoed I think it was but anyway he was either way there was I can remember the picture it might have been a video where he was asked were you involved in the murder of Sean Little who again he would have been a childhood friend of and he passes this lie detector test and he put it out publicly but certainly the Littles

Yeah, I mean, he was a sort of a well-known sort of shopkeeper in that part of North Dublin.

And, you know, he absolutely was caught red-handed.

I mean, it was a very, very serious attempt or could have resulted in a very serious attempt.

So...

At this point, Mark Salmond, he's facing those charges in the special criminal court.

Yeah.

Well, we'll cover it then because it's a fascinating story.

Thanks, Niall.

Thanks, Ken.