Niall

The others follow him.

I mean, Jason is also has always been regarded as the most violent and the most dangerous of them all.

Certainly, he was the person that was feared on the streets.

And you can see why when you hear the details of what happened to Barry Moore that day.

Jason is a leader in that.

He is one of the instigators and he's certainly one of the people that take it the furthest.

No, we're there because they are a violent criminal organisation.

While this incident is, you know, it's maybe not unprecedented, but it's certainly as bad as anything I've ever heard in a courtroom.

And we're there because they have a history of being involved in violent acts, in feuding, in, you know, shootings, both being the target and...

you know, also the level of drug intimidation they've been involved in.

All that said, these are not multi-millionaire drug dealers.

These are people that rule a kind of a network of street dealers through great fear, great intimidation.

But even if you look at the seizures surrounding them, you're talking tens of thousands.

They were king of the kids and you can see that in the people around them in the Brown Steakhouse where their father was shot dead and the people convicted.

They have these group of teenagers really a decade younger than them.

Mm-hmm.

carrying out their orders.

And those orders are really, really sinister.

When we say they're not, these people are a very, very sinister criminal organization.

What they're not is criminal masterminds that are able to, you know, set up sort of international or national networks