Niccolo Mainoni
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Frank Pacienza had to find a document so scandalous that it could take down Marcinkis. So Pacienza worked his connections and said he found damning financial statements between Marcinkis, Sindona, and Calvi. He wouldn't go into more detail except to say this would have undermined the Calvi-Marcinkis covert operation. The two men would be exposed before they'd barely begun.
Frank Pacienza had to find a document so scandalous that it could take down Marcinkis. So Pacienza worked his connections and said he found damning financial statements between Marcinkis, Sindona, and Calvi. He wouldn't go into more detail except to say this would have undermined the Calvi-Marcinkis covert operation. The two men would be exposed before they'd barely begun.
But being a very Italian spy, Pazienza didn't bring this information to the cardinal who hired him. He had his own agenda. He made contact with Calvi. And then the banker invited him to meet. The rendezvous was set for an office on Via della Conciliazione in Rome, the massive boulevard that goes from the Tiber River to the doors of St. Peter's Basilica.
But being a very Italian spy, Pazienza didn't bring this information to the cardinal who hired him. He had his own agenda. He made contact with Calvi. And then the banker invited him to meet. The rendezvous was set for an office on Via della Conciliazione in Rome, the massive boulevard that goes from the Tiber River to the doors of St. Peter's Basilica.
On the day of, Patienza made his way to the address and went up a few flights of stairs to the room. And there he saw God's banker. Suit, tie, mustache. Calvi was seated. So he gets up and he shakes your hand.
On the day of, Patienza made his way to the address and went up a few flights of stairs to the room. And there he saw God's banker. Suit, tie, mustache. Calvi was seated. So he gets up and he shakes your hand.
Do you remember the handshake? Yeah. You just shook my hand and it was kind of limp.
Do you remember the handshake? Yeah. You just shook my hand and it was kind of limp.
Oh, you think it's emblematic of him? Emblematic. Very emblematic. So you shake his hand. It's limp. Then what happens?
Oh, you think it's emblematic of him? Emblematic. Very emblematic. So you shake his hand. It's limp. Then what happens?
You're making a gesture that you're taking out documents from a briefcase. Pazienza said he laid out the documents showing Calvi's secret transfers between the Vatican, the Ambrosiano, and its offshore companies.
You're making a gesture that you're taking out documents from a briefcase. Pazienza said he laid out the documents showing Calvi's secret transfers between the Vatican, the Ambrosiano, and its offshore companies.
He told Calvi, I don't give a shit about you. Maybe you don't understand, I only care about the Pope. Patienza thought this was a true conspiracy against the Pope inside the Vatican. And he said he didn't want to be a part of it, Patienza was on their side.
He told Calvi, I don't give a shit about you. Maybe you don't understand, I only care about the Pope. Patienza thought this was a true conspiracy against the Pope inside the Vatican. And he said he didn't want to be a part of it, Patienza was on their side.
Why fight international communism?
Why fight international communism?
Pazienza is saying here that he ripped up the document in front of Calvi, handed it to him, and told him he didn't have any other copies. I had to ask this a few ways to confirm with Pazienza. But basically, he waltzed into Calvi's office and showed the banker blackmail material on the Vatican Bank, then tore it up.
Pazienza is saying here that he ripped up the document in front of Calvi, handed it to him, and told him he didn't have any other copies. I had to ask this a few ways to confirm with Pazienza. But basically, he waltzed into Calvi's office and showed the banker blackmail material on the Vatican Bank, then tore it up.
From there, Pazienza told Calvi he was ready to quit the Italian CIA, that he didn't have a special allegiance to the left-leaning cardinals. And Pazienza, anti-communist soldier, thought he'd be better off working privately for the banker.
From there, Pazienza told Calvi he was ready to quit the Italian CIA, that he didn't have a special allegiance to the left-leaning cardinals. And Pazienza, anti-communist soldier, thought he'd be better off working privately for the banker.